The OcUK PSP CFW Guide

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Jailbreaking iPhone. Run "useful" apps and emulators etc
CFW PSP Run "useful" apps and emulators.

Only difference I see is, in the real world, iPhone owners probably 80% apps 20% emu/rom, PSP 80% emu/rom 20% "apps".


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oh, well yeah. i didnt think of emulators. i was thinking more along the lines of apple software, or any official software for the iphone.

Do you have any links proving the illegal status of CFW?

you dont really need to - the official firmware is copywrited. using it without permission, or parts of it, is breaking that copywrite. thats exactly what your doing when you use custom firmware.
 
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Not to mention that circumventing the protection methods on any electronic device to allow loading of "custom" firmwares is highly illegal.

Look at the case of modchips most recently. The device itself is perfectly legal. It's just a piece of hardware. The second you load code onto it that allows you to bypass any of the devices security measures, you are breaking the law. Pure and simple.

I truly do not understand why people think it is even fringe legal, and I really don't understand what has changed on this board to even allow threads to get past the original post here.
 
Not to mention that circumventing the protection methods on any electronic device to allow loading of "custom" firmwares is highly illegal.

Look at the case of modchips most recently. The device itself is perfectly legal. It's just a piece of hardware. The second you load code onto it that allows you to bypass any of the devices security measures, you are breaking the law. Pure and simple.

I truly do not understand why people think it is even fringe legal, and I really don't understand what has changed on this board to even allow threads to get past the original post here.

That can't be right. The PSP itself is just hardware. It's not illegal for you to change your TV firmware so why would it be illegal to change PSP firmware? :confused:
 
That can't be right. The PSP itself is just hardware. It's not illegal for you to change your TV firmware so why would it be illegal to change PSP firmware? :confused:

because the software is copywrite and the CFW uses part of that software (how else would you have an xmb or play psp games?) without permission. until sony say yes you can modify our software then yes, it is illegal as weve said.
 
That can't be right. The PSP itself is just hardware. It's not illegal for you to change your TV firmware so why would it be illegal to change PSP firmware? :confused:

Precisely. I've not modified my PSP in any way.

Also I'm pretty sure that CFW is a patch installed alongside the OFW . When you install CFW, you are required to install the entire OFW along with it in it's entirety, Sony provide that for us and people mirror it, it's not downloaded from dodgy sources.

http://uk.playstation.com/help-support/psp/system-software/download/

Whether this patch was created by using reverse engineering to investigate the OFW or not I don't know.

I've not reverse engineered the Sony firmware, and I'm not downloading any files that contain parts of it (other than the entire OFW from sony).
 
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if its reverse engineered from official firmware then yes it is.

well, there is a difference actually. its not against the law to use a phone on another network. all you do by doing so is void your warranty. jailbreaking im not so sure about, but is there a way of using a jailbroken iphone to run illegal software like there is a console or handheld with custom firmware?

Well unless unlocking an iPhone and Jailbreaking etc does not involve reverse engineering the firmware already there, then they are both as illegal as each other.
And actually installing a customer firmware on either isn't illegal, but obtaining a firmware with libraries etc that are copyrighted is. :)

no, your talking about custom firmware which is illegal lol. again i dont know the specifics of how jailbreaking the iphone works but even so, there's nothing you could actually pirate and get for free by jailbreaking it as far as i know.

It doesn't matter what you plan to do with it once you do it. If you say using a firmware which has been reversed engineered is illegal, then both are as illegal as each other.
 
It doesn't matter what you plan to do with it once you do it. If you say using a firmware which has been reversed engineered is illegal, then both are as illegal as each other.

which is why i said i dont know the specifics of how jail breaking actually works. i only mentioned pirting official software on the iphone as an aside as in "theres really nothing you could you could get for free by doing it anyway ". im quite aware of what constitues to breaking copywrite lol
 
because the software is copywrite and the CFW uses part of that software (how else would you have an xmb or play psp games?) without permission. until sony say yes you can modify our software then yes, it is illegal as weve said.

So does a jailbroken iPhone. It uses Apple's firmware (if not you wouldn't get all the apple functions)

According to Sony, their issue with it is 'it invalidates warranty' and therefore they can't provide an official area to do it (if they did, they would then need to support cfw under warranty)

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=psp&thread.id=3143614
 
So does a jailbroken iPhone. It uses Apple's firmware (if not you wouldn't get all the apple functions)

According to Sony, their issue with it is 'it invalidates warranty' and therefore they can't provide an official area to do it (if they did, they would then need to support cfw under warranty)

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=psp&thread.id=3143614

you missed the small print then?

For additional information regarding the use of your PSP®(PlayStation®Portable) system, please refer to the System Software License Agreement. A few relevant pieces of this agreement are provided here for your reference:
"You may not (i) use any unauthorized, illegal, counterfeit, or modified hardware or software in connection with the System Software, including use of such tool to bypass, disable, or circumvent any encryption, security, or authentication mechanism for the PSP™ system; (ii) violate any laws, regulations or statutes, or rights of SCE or third parties in connection with your access to or use of the System Software, including the access, use, or distribution of any software or hardware that you know or should have known to be infringing or pirated; (iii) use any hardware or software to cause the System Software to accept or use unauthorized, illegal, or pirated software or hardware; (iv) obtain the System Software in any manner other than through SCE's authorized distribution methods; or (v) exploit the System Software in any manner other than to use it in your PSP™ system in accordance with the accompanying documentation and with authorized software or hardware, including use of the System Software to design, develop, update, or distribute unauthorized software or hardware for use in connection with the PSP™ system for any reason. Any violation of these restrictions may void the PSP™ system's warranty and affect your ability to obtain warranty services and repair services from SCE."

whether there statement regarded warranty or not, using the sofware in a way other than intended is enough to break the law regarding the copywrite. here's the psp software agreement:

http://www.scei.co.jp/psp-eula/psp_eula_en.html

2. RESTRICTIONS

You may not lease, rent, sublicense, publish, modify, adapt, or translate any portion of the System Software. To the fullest extent permitted by law, you may not reverse engineer, decompile, or disassemble any portion of the System Software, or create any derivative works, or otherwise attempt to create System Software source code from its object code. You may not (i) use any unauthorized, illegal, counterfeit, or modified hardware or software in connection with the System Software, including use of tools to bypass, disable, or circumvent any encryption, security, or authentication mechanism for the PSP™ system; (ii) violate any laws, regulations or statutes, or rights of SCE or third parties in connection with your access to or use of the System Software, including the access, use, or distribution of any software or hardware that you know or should have known to be infringing or pirated; (iii) use any hardware or software to cause the System Software to accept or use unauthorized, illegal, or pirated software or hardware; (iv) obtain the System Software in any manner other than through SCE's authorized distribution methods; or (v) exploit the System Software in any manner other than to use it in your PSP™ system in accordance with the accompanying documentation and with authorized software or hardware, including use of the System Software to design, develop, update, or distribute unauthorized software or hardware for use in connection with the PSP™ system for any reason. Any violation of these restrictions may void the PSP™ system's warranty and affect your ability to obtain warranty services and repair services from SCE or its affiliated companies.
PSP™ System Software may contain technology that is subject to export control laws and regulations of the United States, including but not limited to the Export Administration Regulations and the embargo and sanctions regimes of the U.S. Department of Treasury, Office of Foreign Asset Controls. As such, the PSP™ system may not be exported or re-exported to persons and entities prohibited by such laws and regulations.
 
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yes it does actually lol. that warranty statement is there to wash their hands of modifed hardware. modifying code without permission is enforcable by law "to the fullest extent" as they worded it. it very much does say what ive tried to tell you lot all along.
 
yes it does actually lol. that warranty statement is there to wash their hands of modifed hardware. modifying code without permission is enforcable by law "to the fullest extent" as they worded it. it very much does say what ive tried to tell you lot all along.

Not really. Fullest extent means nothing and it also does not say which law and how this law would be broken. CFW is installed as an aside from the OFW. It isn't being replaced.
 
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