The OcUK PSP CFW Guide

[jegz]

or maybe he rathers to pay for his games

Who says I don't pay for my games ? I may like the extra functionality of being able to use YouTube for instance? or even play games I have owned for 10+ years using scummVm. Why should I pay £200 for a bit of hardware that i cannot use to its full potential?

If you bought a TV and it would only let you watch 3 channels would you not be ****** off?

 

[Yrkoon]

or maybe he rathers to pay for his games

that is a really narrow minded view and seems like you think every single person to use cfw will suddenly stop buying games?

have you ever considered a lot of people will use cfw for homebrew games and apps.

eg pimp streamer lets me use my pc as a media server over the network which lets me use my psp to browse the entire contents of my comps hard drives with my psp and play music/videos etc. lets see ofw do that with out using a base station that costs 100-200 pounds.

oh i have 12 psp games and boxes for all of em yet i have cfw wow how can i have boxes and discs for games if i have cfw oh noes i must be a pirate by your thinking.

in no way does cfw interfere with all my legit games playing.

 

[james.miller]

I think we have someone in our midst that hasn't got CFW cos he's too scared

dont go making assumptions. as far as homebrew goes be realistic please, the amount of people worldwide who use CFW for homebrew only im sure could be counted on one hand. are you trying to tell me your one of them? pull the other one.

makes me laugh when people try to justify their actions like that. 'oh but i only use homebrew so im allowed'. well, no you're not. Ands whats that guff about comparing it to a tv with only 3 channels? LOL. here's one for you - a virgin cable box with out a subscription only picks up the basic free to air channels - bbc1,ch4 ect. does that mean you have the right to get it chipped so you can access every channel for nothing?

does it ****.

When i had my original xbox everybody was doing it. I mean i had mine open and chipped within 3 hours of buying it. so many people were pulling that crap 'oh but i use it as a media center so im allowed' - I was under no such delusions. yeah i had a couple of games i didnt pay for, but i didnt go making excuses - i knew shouldnt have been doing it regardless of what i used it for. you'll find people who download music and games make the same pathetic excuses as well.

 

[Joebob]

dont go making assumptions. as far as homebrew goes be realistic please, the amount of people worldwide who use CFW for homebrew only im sure could be counted on one hand. are you trying to tell me your one of them? pull the other one.

makes me laugh when people try to justify their actions like that. 'oh but i only use homebrew so im allowed'. well, no you're not. Ands whats that guff about comparing it to a tv with only 3 channels? LOL. here's one for you - a virgin cable box with out a subscription only picks up the basic free to air channels - bbc1,ch4 ect. does that mean you have the right to get it chipped so you can access every channel for nothing?

does it ****.

When i had my original xbox everybody was doing it. I mean i had mine open and chipped within 3 hours of buying it. so many people were pulling that crap 'oh but i use it as a media center so im allowed' - I was under no such delusions. yeah i had a couple of games i didnt pay for, but i didnt go making excuses - i knew shouldnt have been doing it regardless of what i used it for. you'll find people who download music and games make the same pathetic excuses as well.

I totally agree with what you are saying here. There are people trying to justify their actions of actually breaking the law because they think they are only bending it, but they are not they are breaking it... it's that simple.

I have had consoles etc chipped and played copied games before and I kinew exactly what i was doing at the time too.

 

[orderoftheflame]

dont go making assumptions. as far as homebrew goes be realistic please, the amount of people worldwide who use CFW for homebrew only im sure could be counted on one hand. are you trying to tell me your one of them? pull the other one.

I can honestly say I have never pirated a game. I've no interest in doing it, and I know tons of other people with CFW enabled PSPs that haven't.

I think you're assuming that because something allows the option to do something, everyone does it. As said, I also think it's a very narrow minded view.


To be blunt, I still don't see any base in your argument for how CFW itself is illegal, and any reason why I shouldn't be allowed to post my guide here when it's finished (at least while the iPhone Jailbreak thread is allowed here).

I'm not doing it to wind you up, I just want to help all the people on the forum that are interested in using it on their PSP.

As far as I'm concered, the issue here is not the legality of piracy. I know it's illegal, I'm not remotely here to promote it.

 

[TheStig1]

cfw is illegal because it reverse engineers sonys code thats why they have been to court to stop it along with that pandora battery that is being swapped around the forum
so what do you use cfw for? to watch youtube videos? ok then sure
why do you think there is no guides on 360 modifying here? yet think its ok for you to tell people how to hack a psp

 

[V1N]

I do hope people aren't calling me a pirate!


With custom firmware, I intend to install my newest games to my memory stick, for easier use, faster loading, longer battery life.

That does not make me a pirate.

I sometimes download nocd patches for my paid for PC games for the same reason.

Just because you may not be able to trust yourselves, if you yourself had a custom firmware, does NOT mean that it automatically turns the rest of us into pirates!

When I purchase a new audio CD, the first thing I do is rip it to my PC, and store it on my server. Does that make me a pirate? I still own the disk, even though it'll probably never be used again.

I do know people who bought the original xbox, had it modded, or bought them modded, and never ran one pirated game on it... in fact, they never played one game on it, they simply wanted it to stream media to the living room.

The "hack" added better functionality to the device, much as the CFW does for the PSP, which goes far beyond piracy.

Installing CFW does not automatically mean you're going to play pirated games!!

 

[Soulja]

Bunch of filthy pirates!! YYAARRR!!!! SHIVER ME TIMBERS!!!!!

 

[james.miller]

I do hope people aren't calling me a pirate!


With custom firmware, I intend to install my newest games to my memory stick, for easier use, faster loading, longer battery life.

your intended use makes no difference

That does not make me a pirate.

you should probably take a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement_of_software copywrite infringement aka software piracy

I sometimes download nocd patches for my paid for PC games for the same reason.

hey so do i, but i dont pretend to think its perfectly legal.

Just because you may not be able to trust yourselves, if you yourself had a custom firmware, does NOT mean that it automatically turns the rest of us into pirates!

HAHA ok then. thats a knee-jerk reaction isnt it?

When I purchase a new audio CD, the first thing I do is rip it to my PC, and store it on my server. Does that make me a pirate? I still own the disk, even though it'll probably never be used again.

ripping cd's is a complex legal grey area. there's no copy protection on a cd so they cant really do anything at all right now. i bolded cd because there are albums available on the same media that do have copy protection which does make it flat it breaking the law if you try to rip them, but they are not allowed to call them cds!

I do know people who bought the original xbox, had it modded, or bought them modded, and never ran one pirated game on it... in fact, they never played one game on it, they simply wanted it to stream media to the living room.

great. i already mentioned i chipped my original xbox. you seem to be under the assumption that because i dont pretend it isnt illegal, that i dont do anything of the sort at all. wrong again.

The "hack" added better functionality to the device, much as the CFW does for the PSP, which goes far beyond piracy.

it still IS piracy.

Installing CFW does not automatically mean you're going to play pirated games!!

nope but it means your using reverse engineered software. is it getting through yet? lol

 

[V1N]

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You're probably right about some of that stuff... the knee jerk reaction certainly.

But I just wanted to make the point that just because I intend to run a CFW in my PSP, doesn't automatically mean I'm going to go around pirating games!

It just gets my goat up when people imply that just because people want to install CFW in the PSP automatically means it's because they want to pirate games. It's NOT the case. Hacks on other systems may allow pirated games to be played, and nothing else... in this case, piracy is all the modification/hack can be used for.

In the case of the PSP/Xbox1, it adds great functionality as well, so installing it does not mean that the user is going to pirate games, as it has many more applications than that.

I'm not going to argue whether the custom firmware is reverse engineered, or the legality of it, as I'm not clued up on it, and would just be guessing. From what I've read, when you install the CFW, you need the official firmware as well. The CFW isn't a total firmware overwrite, it uses the OFW and adds to it somehow.

As for copy protection, do UMDs have any copy protection? From the guides I've read, no. The disks themselves have no copy protection on them.
Anyway, that's irrelevant to the point I'm attempting to make, that the installation of CFW does not automatically mean you're going to go around pirating games!

Vin.

 

[LordSplodge]

Got to love the holier than thou attitude in this thread especially from james.miller

People do pirate games. Get over it.
People do run CFW to do other things than pirate games. Get used to it.
People often use media in ways the corporations don't want the to, such as ripping CD's. So what?

The problem here is the media companies want to control the way we have acces to media that we the end user have purchased legally.

Pointless argument as the two sides on these forums will never agree. Never the twain shall meet as they say.

 

[james.miller]

Got to love the holier than thou attitude in this thread especially from james.miller

oh you miss the point completely, well done! when did i ever say my psp didnt have custom firware? wasnt thinking was you? i did mention i chipped my xbox, jailbroke my iphone, used no cd cracks in the past (everything i buy these days is through steam anyway so i dont need to do that any more). You're just another person steam-rollering through without thinking.

V1N i certainly didnt assume thats what you'd use it for - i never said that. peopel just have to realise that it makes no difference what you want to do with it, its putting the firmware on there in the first place that is the issue first and foremost

 

[V1N]

Got to love the holier than thou attitude in this thread especially from james.miller

People do pirate games. Get over it.
People do run CFW to do other things than pirate games. Get used to it.
People often use media in ways the corporations don't want the to, such as ripping CD's. So what?

The problem here is the media companies want to control the way we have acces to media that we the end user have purchased legally.

Pointless argument as the two sides on these forums will never agree. Never the twain shall meet as they say.

You're probably quite right too.
I guess in my mind, I can see nothing wrong with purchasing a UMD game, taking it home, and copying it to my own memory stick, and leaving the game on the shelf, in the same way as I have no problems in buying CDs, and ripping them to my PC, and installing a copy in my MP3 player/PSP.

What I do in my mind may not agree with what the law says is legal, but so far as I'm concerned, if I buy the game/cd, then simply installing it to HDD/memory stick isn't a bad thing. Nowhere near as bad as downloading it, and not paying for it at all.

I don't see a problem with that... in fact, to me, DRM should be illegal, stopping people playing their purchased stuff where they want... but that's another issue

Anyway, no point going on about it, I can see both points, and I've made mine.

Nice to see btw. that some companies are trying to help out with using media in different ways. Some of the blurays I have here have "digital copy" disks in there, which is designed to be copied onto the PC. It's nice to see the Playstation Network putting some full games up, so no disk is required. I certainly paid the full £25 for GT5p, and would do so again, for the convenience of being able to play it straight off the HDD with no disk.

Anyway, sorry, enough of this, I look forward to seeing the OcUK PSP CFW guide, although I wouldn't be surprised if orderoftheflame is having second thoughts now

Vin.

 

[z0mbi3]

To be blunt, I still don't see any base in your argument for how CFW itself is illegal, and any reason why I shouldn't be allowed to post my guide here when it's finished (at least while the iPhone Jailbreak thread is allowed here).

It's against the forum rules; what other reason do you need?

OcUK has these sort of rules to avoid any nasty legal ramifications that might arise from users posting guides like your proposed one. Even if the legality of it is a grey area, the forum rules are designed so that you air on the side of caution.

E-mail a a Don and ask directly if you still take issue, otherwise you're guaranteed to be wasting your time.

 

[LordSplodge]

You're just another person steam-rollering through without thinking

I did think, thank you.

I did read the line where you admitted to chipping your Xbox (and the other items in your post just above) and that simply makes your holier-than-thou preaching about copyright law and custom firmware even more ironic.

Suffice to say that morally I have no issues with custom firmware, ripping CD's and other such soft breaches of the law.

The legal side of things doesn't bother me. Most of the time the law on these matters is an ass and often brought with the megadollars of the media corporations.

 

[orderoftheflame]

It's against the forum rules; what other reason do you need?

OcUK has these sort of rules to avoid any nasty legal ramifications that might arise from users posting guides like your proposed one. Even if the legality of it is a grey area, the forum rules are designed so that you air on the side of caution.

E-mail a a Don and ask directly if you still take issue, otherwise you're guaranteed to be wasting your time.

Again, I mention that I'm not chipping or modifying my PSP in anyway, other than installing reinstalling the original OFW as well as additional pieces at the same time.

I'm not promoting warez or piracy in anyway shape or form.

As far as I'm concerned, this is no different to Jailbreaking an iPhone. Whilst there is a thread on that on the forums, I see no reason to not post my guide.

cfw is illegal because it reverse engineers sonys code thats why they have been to court to stop it along with that pandora battery that is being swapped around the forum

Links?

I don't think Dark-Alex has ever been to court with sony. As far as I know whilst Sony do not encourage it, they have taken no legal steps to actively stop it.

 

[james.miller]

I did think, thank you.

well think harder then.

I did read the line where you admitted to chipping your Xbox (and the other items in your post just above) and that simply makes your holier-than-thou preaching about copyright law and custom firmware even more ironic.

lol show me one sentance that says 'im better than you'. stop complaining. people will know the difference between right and wrong. people will perhaps break those laws knowingly but be under no illusion about what they are doing. people will also tell you the facts, whatever you think is 'morally acceptable' or not. get used to it, as you like to say.

Suffice to say that morally I have no issues with custom firmware, ripping CD's and other such soft breaches of the law.

The legal side of things doesn't bother me. Most of the time the law on these matters is an ass and often brought with the megadollars of the media corporations.

all i will say to that is that certain copywrite laws need to be addressed and ammended (such as the allowance for ripping audio cd's and perhaps movies for home use). however, others are spot on imo.

if you have any other childish remarks to throw at me, do it over email.

 

[TheStig1]

Links?

I don't think Dark-Alex has ever been to court with sony. As far as I know whilst Sony do not encourage it, they have taken no legal steps to actively stop it.

google is a good link
he stopped as he never had the bottle to face sonys court action
so how did they take no steps?
the magic memory stick is illegal also as it uses reverse engineered sony code

 

[z0mbi3]

Again, I mention that I'm not chipping or modifying my PSP in anyway, other than installing reinstalling the original OFW as well as additional pieces at the same time.

I'm not promoting warez or piracy in anyway shape or form.

As far as I'm concerned, this is no different to Jailbreaking an iPhone. Whilst there is a thread on that on the forums, I see no reason to not post my guide.

I'll say it again, it's a grey area and the rules are designed so that you air on the side of caution. No matter how hard you argue it and what good evidence you have to support it there's always going to be people who think the opposite and have just as good evidence to back their views. This is what makes it a grey area.

If you really want to ignore sensible advice then by all means post your guide and hope for the best. Just don't say we didn't tell you so when it gets deleted.

 

[rp2000]

Why don't all the holier than thou ppl go to the Apple forum and make a fuss about the jailbreaking hypocrisy? I think everyone here who did not know what they were doing is wrong, knows now, so your work is done here, no?

For your next crusade go kick up a stink to the Apple users or e-mail the Dons about that? Seeing as you are all appalled at the hypocrisy in here, it should be the same elsewhere in the forum.

Just to clarify I don't think the guide should be posted here (mentioned it already), but harping on and arguing about rules/morals/legalities (that everyone here is intelligent enough to know unless they are ignorant/naive) doesn't get anywhere. I suppose there has not been a good 360 vs ps3 thread in a while so all the arguements are in here instead


rp2000