Thanks for the advice I will look into it. I never thought a new CPU could run so hot and be happy. But am not happy with 90c temps its like am overclocking like a nutter and am at stock.
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Thanks for the advice I will look into it. I never thought a new CPU could run so hot and be happy. But am not happy with 90c temps its like am overclocking like a nutter and am at stock.
It's just the way it's designed to work, but the problem for me is that the short voltage spikes to 1.4v+ cause crashes... and I have good air cooling! I have now set it to 4500mhz @ 1.225v and yeah ok, I have sacrificed some small amount of single core performance (which I don't notice), but my multi-core performance is pretty much unchanged, my temps are now really nice and I get no spikes or crashes under heavy loads.Thanks for the advice I will look into it. I never thought a new CPU could run so hot and be happy. But am not happy with 90c temps its like am overclocking like a nutter and am at stock.
Obviously temps depend on many things such as your cooling, case and ambient temps of your room. You can't compare directly to other people without considering those factors.
Yeah thats a given. For clarity, I'm using a Dark rock pro 4 air cooler in a Lancool 2. Room temps whatever furnace level the other half sets the heating to.
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Anyone using Mugen 5 on 5600x compare temps (r20 multi temps with PBO on), I thought this was a good cooler until recently helped a mate put together a cheap 5600x build with a Hyper black edition and its way better than my Mugen 5, Wondering if its power delivery of my board thats higher, or because his 5600x is from latest batch I bought mine on release or because the Mugen 5 looks slightly convex to me judging by the pattern on the plate underside. Anyone have an experiences?
The Mugen 5 is an old design. IIRC it’s circa 2015 and pre AM4 with a modified bracket.
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I was very surprised to see that my new 5600x goes down in to the 1Ghz region when idle.
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Yea i don't think its as good as people claim, certainly not for latest Ryzen's.
Checked out my mates setup and it only hits 108w PPT with Pbo and mine is 115w, I restricted mine to 108w PPT and got within 2c of his temps dropping 5c off mine, i'm wondering is it the newer production chips that draw less power or is it the motherboard itself pushing less power out? anyone know?. Mines Auros elite x570 his is b450 basic gigabyte
Can you share a screenshot of your Ryzen Master so I can see what I need to tweak?
Recently upgraded to a 5800X and would like to tame the temps a little!
It's really best if you watch a video or read a guide and learn. Copying screenshots is not a road towards knowing what you are doing.
why don't you use CTR 2.1?
with 1 click it'll check your CPU voltage and thermal limits, another click to check and recommend 3 profiles, easy peasy
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For those who's doing manual overclocking with 5800X, how is it going for you?
I upgraded from 1600 to 5800X recently, did some tweaking, ended up with 4.3 GHz @ 1.175v, 85c max (60c max when gaming), which doesn't seem too bad considering my cooler + case (Noctua D9L + Raijintek Metis Plus, with the terrible airflow), planning on moving the internals to CM NR200, which should give me better temps.
PBO/auto OC doesn't seem to work too well for me, all the configurations I've tried seems to result in heavy clock stretching and constantly hitting 90c, it'd tell me it's clocked at 4.8 GHz but effective clock is around 3.8 - 4.0 GHz before eventually dropping below 3 GHz, that's no good, so for now I'll just stick with manual OC.
Cinebench r23 multi-core score at that clock gave me 14485 multi core score, which seems decent, haven't tried single core test yet, but 14485 is a much better score than what I got with PBO/auto OC, I got 12966.
I upgraded from 1600 to 5800X recently, did some tweaking, ended up with 4.3 GHz @ 1.175v, 85c max (60c max when gaming), which doesn't seem too bad considering my cooler + case (Noctua D9L + Raijintek Metis Plus, with the terrible airflow), planning on moving the internals to CM NR200, which should give me better temps.
PBO/auto OC doesn't seem to work too well for me, all the configurations I've tried seems to result in heavy clock stretching and constantly hitting 90c, it'd tell me it's clocked at 4.8 GHz but effective clock is around 3.8 - 4.0 GHz before eventually dropping below 3 GHz, that's no good, so for now I'll just stick with manual OC.
Cinebench r23 multi-core score at that clock gave me 14485 multi core score, which seems decent, haven't tried single core test yet, but 14485 is a much better score than what I got with PBO/auto OC, I got 12966.
i ended up settling for 4.65 GHZ @ 1.28v on my 5800x, low 60s while playing battlefield V, down from mid 70s (this is playing battlefield V multiplayer which is very CPU intensive), i tried too mess with PBO settings a lot of times but is too much effort, tinkering and time to get decent results, lost around 10c straight away just with this basic config on ryzen master and considering i mainly game and dont care about benchmarks is perfect.
85C from this low voltage is very suspicious. I know you said your cooling is less than perfect, but maybe there is something actually wrong with thermal paste or cooler seating?
That would explain poor PBO results.
Overall if you want slower/cooler than stock mode, just turn on ECO mode for 65W operation. Then at least you keep single thread boost.
Chaps, just about to take the plunge and upgrade to a 5600x, I've spec'd up a system (Gigabyte Aorus pro p, 3600Mhz DDR4 etc ) but cooling is something I haven't yet decided on. I had thought I would go AOI route ( ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 240) but is this totally overkill given the 5600x runs pretty cool, would I be better with a decent size air cooler instead ? I do want it to run cool and quiet (although the 3070ti might dominate the fan noise anyway).
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That's another issue with PBO that I have, I don't even get the single thread boost, which is weird, I understand throttling with all cores at 100%, but one or few cores not even boosting to 4.7 GHz or higher? That can't be right, with ECO mode on, it runs cooler, at 75c max, but effective clocks drops to 2.5 GHz under load, I got terrible single core and multi core score in Cinebench, either I need to tweak PBO more or something's broken, but right now, my main concern is having a functional PC that I can play games on and stream from with the performance I can expect from this CPU, which I get with manual OC.
85c does seem a bit high, but it seems about what I can expect with my current cooler set up + lack of airflow in my case, but I decided to reseat the cooler anyway and flipped the fans so they're both pulling in air from the fan, max temp is now 80c (when benchmarking, gaming at 55c max), idle few degrees cooler, that's an improvement, but like you seemed to suggest, at that voltage, it could be a bit cooler, maybe it's the thermal paste that's the issue, it's Arctic MX-4 that I got like 3 years ago, but they don't really expire, do they? At least not within 3 years of purchasing it, I'm not sure.
Doesn't look like I can do much more to improve the cooling until I get a new case with far better airflow, while I'm here, any suggestions for a better thermal paste (if the one I have is the issue), a new cooler, and a decent fan hub/controller? Something that can fit in a NR200, planning on running 4 fans, 2 at bottom and 2 at top, with air flowing upwards.
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This makes sense, get the cool outside air directly to CPU cooler. Do you have a top fan installed to extract hot air out? Metis is not THAT bad airflow wise.
Something is still off. High temps in torture benchmarks, ok. But also poor single thread boost? I'm beginning to shift blame to motherboard
3 year old MX-4 will be fine. Although you could use it as excuse to get MX-5.
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Yeah, I do have the top fan, but it's pulling in cool air, I can't really flip it, it's a bit too close to the GPU fans, so it'll just end up fighting for the air, but I could try flipping and undervolting the GPU and see how it goes, I haven't tweaked the GPU outside of the fan curve, so everything else is still on stock, I don't have the side panel on though, so all that warm air is going somewhere at least.
Motherboard issue is possible, it's a Gigabyte B450 I AORUS PRO WIFI with latest BIOS.
To give you a better idea of how it ran when I had Ryzen 5 1600 before I upgraded, I had it running at 3.8 GHz @ 1.325v and it topped out at 70c, 75c during the heatwave, not sure how that compares to the current situation, if that seems to be too high, then I suspect an issue with the cooler itself.
@thebandit I'm running a 5600X on an Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240.
I can get you temps while gaming if you want? It is a bit tricky to install (or was for me) due to the tubes being quite thick when you screw it down. Either that or just me being me!
I can get you temps while gaming if you want? It is a bit tricky to install (or was for me) due to the tubes being quite thick when you screw it down. Either that or just me being me!