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The Official 5830 Thread!

I's ok Muel I found the problemo!!!! :D

My X-Fi elite card has a little damage on the back. I got it second hand from you know where recently - the darn thing on close inspection has some scratches on the back. None of the traces look cut, but it's enough to have caused some really strange and random hanging behaviour!

It seemed to work ok with the GTX 280 - but since I've pulled the X-Fi, no freezes or post problems.
 
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Muel said:
What kinda test are you talking? I'm not sure on numbers but here are my impressions.

COD4 1920x1200, all settings maxed out. Very smooth gameplay, the occasional lag but it's not like dropping framerates, the screen freezes for upto half a second. This is only very occasional though, the rest of the time I get the impression my 60hz monitor is restricting it.

Crysis Demo 1680x1050 (can't force it to go upto 1920x1200), very good on high settings, and playable at very high but it's only making around 40fps at a rough guess. I run it at medium settings anyway because I can't really see the difference between the textures and it turns off the motion blur.
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Thanks for that, I've settled on the Powercolor ATI Radeon HD 5830 PCS. Read that you can turn on AA at x4 on 1680 resolution:cool:
 
The thing I dont like about the 5830 is that it is an over crippled 5870 and that they do charge too much for it (I've not seen any in stock anywhere for £150).

I dont like paying for crippled GPUs, back with the 4800 range, the 4830 / 4850 were still very fast and well specified parts, same with the 3850 before them.

This time the 5830 is, if one could call it, too over-crippled, the reduction to 16 rops is the main deal breaker for me (I wouldnt have minded one if it had the full 32 rops, but as it currently is, it is hardly any worth getting over a 5770).

I would much rather have prefered a new 5770 type card with 1120 stream processors, that I would definately have wanted to buy.
 
bhavv said:
The thing I dont like about the 5830 is that it is an over crippled 5870 and that they do charge too much for it (I've not seen any in stock anywhere for £150).

I dont like paying for crippled GPUs, back with the 4800 range, the 4830 / 4850 were still very fast and well specified parts, same with the 3850 before them.

This time the 5830 is, if one could call it, too over-crippled, the reduction to 16 rops is the main deal breaker for me (I wouldnt have minded one if it had the full 32 rops, but as it currently is, it is hardly any worth getting over a 5770).

I would much rather have prefered a new 5770 type card with 1120 stream processors, that I would definately have wanted to buy.
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yeah that's true, hopefully the asus 5850 will stay at £232.99 for a while ideally until forever;)
 
spirits247 said:
I's ok Muel I found the problemo!!!! :D

My X-Fi elite card has a little damage on the back. I got it second hand from you know where recently - the darn thing on close inspection has some scratches on the back. None of the traces look cut, but it's enough to have caused some really strange and random hanging behaviour!

It seemed to work ok with the GTX 280 - but since I've pulled the X-Fi, no freezes or post problems.
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Good stuff dude, glad to hear it's not RMA time. :P
 
Muel said:
Haha, yeh it's also the cheapest, quietest, slowest and lowest power draw. :P

Think it might be time to play the dislexia card....
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Nah, that's fine, I wasn't trying to take the mick. :)

Just looked at the model, looked at what you'd posted, and couldn't figure out what model of HD4870 was almost half the size of the HD5830... :p

Anyhow, as you were. ;)
 
I'm running the latest drivers, but yeh now you mention it most of the benchmarks around were done on or near release with the old drivers.

I'm seriously thinking about goin CF with mine. There should be a 20-25mm gap between them and I have 2x120mm fans feeding that area, and the 5830 I have will only go to 52C with 33% fan speed, so adding another shouldn't be a problem temperature wise.

Only downside is my motherboard is fairly cheap, and will cut down to PCIEx8. I found this benchmark here which shows that in a lot of situations, x8 and x16 are very close.

BUT they tested with an 8800GTS, so I'm guessing that a 5830 will be throttled more by running at x8.

Decisions decisions!
 
Aye I just found this.

Test results showed that a PCIe x8 slot provides 4% less performance when using the fastest possible single GPU, and those results did translate into a 4% performance deficit in CrossFire. That 4% loss isn’t horrific, and less powerful cards would likely show less performance difference.
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They tested using an i7 1156, i7 1366, and 3 5870s. Basically for 2 5830s there will be no difference between PCIEx8 and PCIEx16.
 
Crossfire sucks a lot of power!!! Also imagine the squealing. ;)

I'd rather have the shorter and less power hungry 5770's for crossfire, but they do run hotter than the Powercolor 5830's and are probably noisier. Still can't believe how quiet and cool these cards are. It never seems to go above 55C in normal gaming.

I too thought about crossfire, but it brings as many issues as it does performance. Micro stutters, compatibility issues with games and drivers, high power draw. Although it's totally tempting, if I'm honest this card has easily enough power for all current games.

If some tessellation heavy games come into play, I think crossfire might help a lot. This is basically a super cool and quiet 4890 with DX11.
 
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Has anyone found out why ATI have released special drivers just for the 5830?

It seems really strange, as if they want to control its performance level more tightly.
 
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