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*** The Official Alder Lake owners thread ***

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I should note that the paste I used was Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut! Application method was spreading it across the whole IHS :cool:

The Freezer II comes with MX-4 paste but I chucked that away.
 
On the Arctic website you fill out a form and they will send you the 1700 mounting kit

@mrk how come you got the KF not the K? You can't use QuickSync as you've got no iGPU.


I have no idea what Quicksync is, so unlikely I'll have ever used it anyway!

I've just looked it up though and it's to do with video transcoding. My 6700k was still slow even though it has an iGPU but all of my main applications use GPU acceleration for this anyway like cuda so don't think I've been missing out anyway really.
 
I'd take a look at the Puget reviews again, and some others showing how much better QS can be than CUDA or equivalent, and for you it would seem a shame to lose out on something that can literally double your performance if you'll be keeping the system for a decent amount of time.

Also it means you have a way of using your system should you be without your graphics card for any reason.

I'll run a Puget photoshop bench tonight and see what my score is for the K vs my KF.
 
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Puget for PS update


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Doubled the 6700K score, not that that's a surprise for 5 years of advancements lol.
 
Nice build. Looks great, genuine question though, should the Rad be the other way up so it feeds the pump more efficiently? I thought i saw somewhere the Rad ports should be above the pump but i am not sure as never used AIO. great looking build though

A fair question and something I myself questioned to someone else a while back as I wasn't aware of this only knowing the one preferred way!

The truth is orientation doesn't matter but what matters is where the pump is in reference to the line of the rad position. This video will explain all!


Btw someone on Instagram already quizzed me telling me my rad will die with this configuration :D
 
Yup I'm a convert now. A friend recommended it and some reviews I watched showed it to be 4-10 degrees better than AS5 plus it's non conductive which sealed the deal for me.
 
@mrk - looks like a nice and tidy build. Well done.
I have mounted my 420mm Arctic Freezer II in the top on my Meshify 2 XL case. But, get this impression from seeing yours as well, it would have been useful if they had extended the length of the pipes. Perhaps more so for the 420mm as it is such a big rad. Even tho my case could fit a 420mm vertically at the front the pipes would have been too short. I did want it at the top anyway.

Are those pipes leaning on the GPU..? The GPU looks to be tilted downwards at the rear. Altho that could just be how it looks in the photo. I do know how thick and weighty those pipes are. EDIT: could be the cover on the GPU which slants downwards to the rear giving that impression.

Before I changed from a 5000D case to my Meshify I did like the cable shroud that fits over where the motherboard cables run to the boards socket. It can be a little tricky running the extension cables through but it does look very neat when in place.

The AF II is a very capable AIO - with only one connection (the 420mm having no bling). No pump speed to bother about and very quiet in use. The cost of it puts many others to shame.

I found no issue with the tubes length but my rad is 280mm so that may be why. If the length is the same on yours then year I'd want a big longer tubing to account for the longer rad!

As for the GFX card, it's a combination of sag and the styling of the cover/surround plastic panel. The styling lines give the impression of extra sag but it's only a bit of sag due to the weight of the metal heatsink layers. Not much can be done about that really. Gigabyte boards have a reinforced PCIE socket so I am not really concerned about bending the socket or anything, was the same on the old mobo too.

The AIO tubs are not resting on the GPU though, there is about a 1-2cm gap between tubes and the edge of the RTX.

Definitely on the price of these AIOs. My Corsair H115i cost quite a bit more back then and this AF wipes the floor with it.


What ate your temps and Ilde temps I've went with the 360 artic should hopefully produce good temps for my 12900k.

Idle and load temps when gaming are screenshotted below. The max temp you see are from when I played Cyberpunk 2077 for an hour:

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Sorry I though you used video as well, via Premier Pro, so if not you'll only see small gains. If you do intend to use is it then I'll leave this review snippet here for you.

"What is interesting to see is that with the H.264 media, the Intel Core processors - and the new Core i9 12900K in particular - are significantly faster than their AMD counterparts. You may not think that the CPU would make a big difference here since Premiere Pro is also able to utilize the GPU to decode this type of footage, but having Quick Sync on these Intel processors seems to give a nice boost to performance in the latest version of Premiere Pro. Because of this, the Intel 12th Gen CPUs are close to 2x, or even 3x, faster than the AMD Ryzen 5000 series."

Not in Premiere Pro nope but yes in Davinci Resolve, Camtasia Studio and Premiere Rush. I did however install Pro this morning to run the Puget benchmark to see what the difference is and got this result:

My score: https://www.pugetsystems.com/benchmarks/view.php?id=63695
Someone else's score with a 12700K and beefier 3080 RTX: https://www.pugetsystems.com/benchmarks/view.php?id=61490

Not too shabby really. all things considered.


You didn't fancy putting the rad in the top of the case no? Then populate the front of the case with some fans? The one fan on the top of the case is making my OCD twitch :D

I fancied doing things a bit different this build as figured pulling air through the rad at the front would be best in this case since airflow is so good (hence the case model name lol). And it seems to be working perfectly. When gaming the RTX kicks out serious heat, a constant 70 degrees in Cyberpunk and in this cold weather genuinely means I can use that to heat my surroundings without turning the heating on as heat exhausts from the case much nicer than my old Phanteks Evolv did!

Not too bothered about the single 140mm at the top, configured for purpose after all!
 
I'm happy to wait for the BIOS update, currently set my RAM speeds manually. It's at 3200MHz so in-line with the CPU's native controller support and working great have to say. Once the next BIOS release is out, if I've not changed the RAM to lower CAS modules by then anyway as I may well go 64GB), I'll switch back to 3600MHz :cool:

That GPU bracket looks cool, I also noticed that on this case there are side mounting slots for a GPU so I could get one of those vertical mounting extensions for PCIE cards and do that if the sag really ends up being a bother but as it stands (or sags lol), it's not enough to be bugged by it really and nothing gets in the way of anything else so I'll probs leave as is.

Shame the AIO tubes are the same length though, would have expected longer for sure given the longer rad.
 
Interesting I've just seen on Amazon there is an "upHere Graphics Card GPU Brace" for £6.50 which looks to do just the trick and is a bit more discreet. For that price no reason not to I guess!

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@mrk glotrends, from the same place is where I bought mine. At £12.99 it is good, but I use one of those ribbons with a horizontal mounted GPU now........

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The benefit being if the AIO leaks it should miss taking the GPU with it :D


Are AIO leaks common? You're the 2nd person the last 7 days to mention being wary of leaks haha! I've had 3 AIOs since 2015 and none have leaked tbf although like anything, a Friday build product is a total lottery!

The only thing I don't like about vertically mounted GPUs is that it blocks a large chunk of mobo from view and also the airflow for the fans to pull air in is a bit trickier as it's facing sideways where there is no cold air channel unlike the underside with the vents on the case.

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My old 6700K, Z170X Gaming 5 mobo, H115AIO and Phanteks Evolv case are being collected today by someone from FB Marketplace. Agreed on my asking price too so I'm rather pleased with that. £260 toward the 12th gen upgrade :D
 
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Hi mrk, whats the issue with the bios and memory, just wondering as I've bought the same board as you wondering if I'll have the same issue?
Thanks

Hi what RAM do you have? if it's the same RAM as me then you may well have the same issue if it is indeed a BIOS bug! My RAM is 3600MHz 32GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro SL module number: CMH32GX4M2Z3600C18

The issue is if XMP is enabled then the system powers on but will not boot into POST. Clearing the CMOS sorts it but the RAM is then running in JEDEC speed 2666MHz. The timings are correct however.

I've since changed the speed manually to 3200MHz for a period of time to test things out and the voltage to the XMP 1.35v and manually set gear ratio to Gear 1 as it's auto by default although the ratio in CPU-Z remains the same so Auto was using Gear 1 anyway which is good.

If it's not a BIOS bug then it's the memory modules I have not being fully compatible with this board and I cannot check because Gigabyte don't seem to have a RAM compatibility list like they do with other boards lol.

It's not a huge issue, at least I know that manually setting to XMP speeds works so either way it's gonna end up running as it should until Gigabyte release a BIOS update and I can check the changelog to see what they've fixed.
 
Unlikely, may just be the xmp profile associated with my ram model specifically, or it could be a similar bug in other profiles too for other modules.

Only one way to find out!
 
Put my RAM manually to 3600MHz and manually input the timings too as they were at 18-22-22-43-65 in auto when they should be 18-22-22-42-64. Manually setting RAM seems perfect so gonna leave the XMP setting well alone and just do it all manually from here on if I upgrade RAM next time.

Only thing left to do now is take out this damn Corsair fan controller from the case because it's got what sounds like capacitor whine due to the low rpms I'm running the case fans at.. Will bin it and plug the fans directly into the mobo sys_fan PWM headers.

Looks like business as usual resumes :D
 
It's fun rebuilding though and you can sell the old kit to reclaim more money back!
 
You had a BIOS update already?! Gigabyte are still looking into some XMP issues it seems going by the Auros Twitter account as they responded to my reply there. In the meantime I am running at XMP speeds manually so all good.

Nice to be up and running though eh!

I don't actually know what else to try now lol. Done benches, gaming etc. Just carry on with normal work I guess just enjoy the faster speeds and a bit above room temp thermals hah, something I've never had on any build before let alone a pretty top end one!
 
Is the Aida64 memory bench available anywhere? Their site says it's not free!
 
Hmm any alternative apps that will do it perhaps that is open source etc? Would be interested to test mine as am looking at 3600MHz CL14 32GB kit to upgrade to from this Vengeance 3600MHz C18.
 
I'm at CL18 3600MHz (32GB dual ranked) but my RAM is rated to CL18 so that's what I've set. All XMP values but manually set as XMP profile is broken until GB release a BIOS update. I've now stopped getting too hung up on timings etc as having seen too many reviews etc now with on paper faster/tighter RAM from DDR4 to 5 with the same CPU, my benchmark scores and stuff near enough match theirs so there's little point in being concerned about single digit percentage differences all things considered for me.

I just need a graphics card with more than 8GB VRAM as some games now need more than that at 3440x1440. Good luck to me finding a 30 series card when the 3070 Ti 16GB comes out then :p
 
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