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Yeah, those of us who deal with systems in any volume felt the pain from the Intel i225 debacle, the amount of RMA's and system strip downs it caused was stupid, and they denied the problem existed, but them magically released a 3rd revision and all the problems disappeared. I am glad the board manufacturers were supportive even if Intel stuck their fingers in ears about it all.
 
Dave2150 said:
Do go into detail, I'd like to hear from your "personal experience" of the Z690 issues that include the revision 3 of the Intel L225V NIC.
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ah, let's see if I have managed to phrase this better................

"my personal understanding of what I have read................."


The above applied to what I had read or noted in YT videos of people reporting issues wither their Intel NIC's on their Z690 boards. I discovered that as I was researching which board to buy in general and never even factored considering any thoughts about the onboard NIC. It raised enough awareness for me to wonder if it could be a factor, then realised it did not matter for me as the Gigabyte board used a Realtek NIC but it did seem fine on the MSI board I later returned that used an Intel NIC, much to my relief.
However I am pleased to note that the Realtek NIC on the Gigabyte board has been great. I have not got a clue about revisions 1, 2, 3 or 20, or whatever, I can't recall ever having an issue with many generations of motherboards where the NIC was the issue. Then again I can't recall if they might have been Intel or Realtek, that's as much relevance as it has been in the recent past.
 
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Vimes said:
@Journey had it got to the point where, for some users, RMA's were offered for replacement or different boards were offered for some people due to the earlier revisions of that Intel NIC.................?
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You could opt for a work around, or an RMA, but the work around didn't always actually work, so end users usually demanded a full swap out as they wanted a fully operation NIC that could run at the full speed.

The up re-visioned part from Intel is documented here and shows the changes made.

In all it is a typical Intel response, I've had run ins with them in the past with NIC's and LAN controllers, specifically a quad port Gigabit model, that again had no faults, yet they up re-visioned that as well, and we aren't talking one or two here, we are talking 100's of cards going into mission critical applications. It was a total cluster ****.
 
Journey said:
You could opt for a work around, or an RMA, but the work around didn't always actually work, so end users usually demanded a full swap out as they wanted a fully operation NIC that could run at the full speed.

The up re-visioned part from Intel is documented here and shows the changes made.

In all it is a typical Intel response, I've had run ins with them in the past with NIC's and LAN controllers, specifically a quad port Gigabit model, that again had no faults, yet they up re-visioned that as well, and we aren't talking one or two here, we are talking 100's of cards going into mission critical applications. It was a total cluster ****.
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Thanks for that, and the links. most appreciated.
I can only imagine the frustration that such situations cause, especially for those who are using such NIC's as you describe.
As you pointed out in your previous post at least board manufacturers were supportive.
 
Vimes said:
ah, let's see if I have managed to phrase this better................

"my personal understanding of what I have read................."


The above applied to what I had read or noted in YT videos of people reporting issues wither their Intel NIC's on their Z690 boards. I discovered that as I was researching which board to buy in general and never even factored considering any thoughts about the onboard NIC. It raised enough awareness for me to wonder if it could be a factor, then realised it did not matter for me as the Gigabyte board used a Realtek NIC but it did seem fine on the MSI board I later returned that used an Intel NIC, much to my relief.
However I am pleased to note that the Realtek NIC on the Gigabyte board has been great. I have not got a clue about revisions 1, 2, 3 or 20, or whatever, I can't recall ever having an issue with many generations of motherboards where the NIC was the issue. Then again I can't recall if they might have been Intel or Realtek, that's as much relevance as it has been in the recent past.
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I'm interested in any links you can provide for this, as I've not heard of any widespread Z690 Intel NIC issues.
 
Back in 2020 my fairly high spec i9 Z490/3080 system was under £1420 - cpu-mobo-RAM-gpu ... a year and a half on you can spend this on Z690/3080 ... that's progress for you ;)
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £4,641.66 (includes shipping: £11.70)​
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turbot1984 said:
Back in 2020 my fairly high spec i9 Z490/3080 system was under £1420 - cpu-mobo-RAM-gpu ... a year and a half on you can spend this on Z690/3080 ... that's progress for you ;)
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £4,641.66 (includes shipping: £11.70)
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Could spend less than £1420 today and have a system with a much faster CPU for gaming and most benchmarks. IPC, ST speed are much higher 12th vs 10th gen. 10850k would win in some MT workloads, though the type 99.9% never use.

Clock a 12th gen i5 (£227 for i5 12600 non k) to 5.2Ghz (easily done, see https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/intel-alder-lake-non-k-oc-12600-5200mhz.18945836/), £650 founders edition 3080, GG.
 
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Dave2150 said:
Could spend less than £1420 today and have a system with a much faster CPU for gaming and most benchmarks. IPC, ST speed are much higher 12th vs 10th gen. 10850k would win in some MT workloads, though the type 99.9% never use.

Clock a 12th gen i5 (£227 for i5 12600 non k) to 5.2Ghz (easily done, see https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/intel-alder-lake-non-k-oc-12600-5200mhz.18945836/), £650 founders edition 3080, GG.
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Make sure everyone DM's Dave non stop until he gets you a 3080 FE for £650.
 
Has anyone had any issues with voltage adjustments not working? Asking for someone else who has a 12900k & an Asus Z690 TUF (I think). His voltage was running pretty high and as expected temps were high, he is trying to lower the voltage but it doesn't seem to stick. I don't have anymore specifics atm.
 
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