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All about the $$$ Wilder will be paid off. Gives Eddie an excuse to move the decimal place to the right a bit for the PPV price 
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Hearn does love a pound note so he'd probably try and do that regardless!
Hopefully they can pay Wilder off. He was lucky to have the first contest made a draw and was comprehensively beat down in the 2nd. He should rebuild and start fighting some other top 10 fighters and let the unification go ahead
Hopefully they can pay Wilder off. He was lucky to have the first contest made a draw and was comprehensively beat down in the 2nd. He should rebuild and start fighting some other top 10 fighters and let the unification go ahead
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All seems a bit suspect to me. Fury announcing the Joshua fight is on a few days ago and now this judgement. I can’t see the Joshua fight going ahead.
Its absolutely nothing to do with cash its all about broadening the sport to new audiences.
Its about money mate.
Cash first and foremost. Both are demanding a lot of money for this fight (as they should) and there would be no way to pay them without being able to have a stadium like Wembley at full capacity. The Saudi's paid a very high site fee (I think 150m) so that's how it ended up there.
Better than being in Vegas or somewhere as it will be on at a decent time still
Better than being in Vegas or somewhere as it will be on at a decent time still
Stuff the fans then huh?
To be fair, if any of us were in their position would you honestly do different?
"Hey, the Saudi's are offering you at least 70m each to fight or would you rather risk your life in the ring for 25m - at best - and have it in a half empty stadium?"
You can't really blame them even as annoying as it is
"Hey, the Saudi's are offering you at least 70m each to fight or would you rather risk your life in the ring for 25m - at best - and have it in a half empty stadium?"
You can't really blame them even as annoying as it is
It wouldn't be as bad if it wasn't dirty money from a scummy regime paying for a fight to take place in an atmosphere vacuum in front of a bunch of people that don't care or know what they're watching.
It's not like there's a country full of boxing fans here that have been starved of live sport for year and a half that would have absolutely loved to see two British fighters unify the heavyweight belts at home.
I totally blame them, it's their decision.
It's not like Rumble in the Jungle and Thrilla in Manilla didn't do exactly the same thing. Maybe having such a large event in a country where boxing isn't huge could lead the change and inspire some Saudi youngsters to pick up the gloves and we may get some decent talent from that part of the world in years to come. Manny Pacquiao said it inspired him, the same could happen again
As a fight fan is it annoying? of course. I'd loved to have go seen it. Boxing is a dangerous sport and any fight could be your last through a life changing injury or even death. I don't blame the fighters for trying to maximise what they get paid in a fight, it's their life on the line at the end of the day.
It's called 'Prize fighting' for a reason. Get in. Get Rich. Get out with your faculties intact. Anyone who is saying they'd not do the same in their position is either a mug, an idiot or a liar.
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Got to be honest I've switched over to regularly watching UFC in recent years just because it's so much more entertaining in general than boxing is.
Sky putting logan Paul on PPV just sums it up.
Sky putting logan Paul on PPV just sums it up.
At least the boxers actually get paid unlike in UFC which 80% goes to Dana White.
These guys are putting their lives on the line. They deserve to be paid in my opinion
Edit: To be honest UFC is no different.
McGreggor doesn't fight in Ireland or Khabib in Russia. They fight where Dana tells them to fight
It's becoming quite apparent that every contact sportsman is putting their life on the line just as much as boxers, they aren't a special case.
With UFC you get to see the top fighters fighting each other regularly. None of this BS with multiple belts and promoters running the show and pantomime nonsense. Every fighter wants to fight the best to get a shot at a belt.
Every fighter gets told who they're fighting. Do you think it's right that a promoter gets paid more money than the one putting their lives on the line? In boxing the boxers are the boss. In UFC. Dana is the boss and has total control over the fighters and their career. That's something that scummy Don King would be proud of. That bald sack of dog excrement has control over his fighters to the point they can't fight elsewhere but still only treats them as subcontracts. Guy is a colossal twit and I'm glad his boxing venture failed.
I do like (the idea, i don't like MMA) the fact that because UFC it's such a dictatorship that the best fights do happen but I don't support the model that a promoter gets paid more money than the fighters.
A quick Google suggest that McGreggor has the highest MMA pay at $5m. That's disgusting compared to what Dana has been making off of his fighters.
I'm as annoyed as the next person that the fight isn't at Wembley but without being at full capacity, it just isn't going to happen. Saudi was the next best bet as the fighters get paid what they're worth and it will be on at a reasonable time
Wilder is just after an easy pay day in the form of a step aside fee. Hope fury calls his bluff and fights him; if hes smart fury should insist a clause saying he must fight him by 15th Sept as stated otherwise 3rd fight is off. As otherwise can see how this pans out with delay after delay
All being well aj can then face usyk as the mandatory and then aj vs fury can finally happen in Dec
The fight no one wanted to see. He should've lost the first and he got battered in the second. The trilogy fight makes no sense. What if, and I know it's a big if but it is heavyweight boxing, Wilder wins the 3rd? Do we then get a fourth!?
Team Fury should pay Wilder some step aside money, Wilder should then have a comeback fight against someone like Andy Ruiz or Michael Hunter and then have an elimination fight with Whyte to see who gets the mandatory shot for the WBC belt - although that would be unfair to Dillian.
The scenes when Usyk beats Joshua and Fury gets knocked out by Wilder and the undisputed fight is between Usyk and Wilder.
I almost want to see it happen to make them suffer from the whole marinating thing. We went though this with Mayweather and Pacquiao I don't want to go through it again.
Team Fury should pay Wilder some step aside money, Wilder should then have a comeback fight against someone like Andy Ruiz or Michael Hunter and then have an elimination fight with Whyte to see who gets the mandatory shot for the WBC belt - although that would be unfair to Dillian.
The scenes when Usyk beats Joshua and Fury gets knocked out by Wilder and the undisputed fight is between Usyk and Wilder.
I almost want to see it happen to make them suffer from the whole marinating thing. We went though this with Mayweather and Pacquiao I don't want to go through it again.
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I'd rather watch a sport where one promoter makes the fights people want to see happen, versus the boxing pantomime where legions of promoters bicker and squabble grasping for their slice of the money and we end up never seeing the best fights, or getting them years too late when fighters are past it.
You end with a sport in this mess where all there is to talk about is contract negotiations....yawn.
I don't disagree with you that I wish the big fights were easier to make and made when the fight should be made not waiting for one side to start looking past it. It's one of the reasons I like the IBF so much as they actually and ruthlessly enforce their mandatories.
But as a fan of the sport (I really don't care about MMA) I like to see the boxers actually get paid what they're worth. As my favourite fighter once said; "You don't play boxing". This sport is no joke. I want to see the ones who put their lives on the line for my entertainment justly rewarded for the risks they take each and every time they step into that squared circle.
For fans I completely agree that all the talk about negotiations, purses, splits, A-side/B-Side etc does get very tiring. But I don't care where the fights take place as long as they actually do take place. Joshua Fury could take place in some crappy dust field in the middle of Timbuktu for all I care. I just want to see the fight.
But to be fair we've had some brilliant match ups this year and we're even going to have 3 or 4 undisputed fights by the year end. The last fight that I can think of that can come close to AJ-Fury that we don't seem to be getting is Spence vs Crawford. Otherwise good fights have been happening.
Don't know about you guys but I'm looking forward to Taylor vs Ramirez this weekend. We've got Haney vs Linares shortly after. Teofimo Lopez vs George Kambosos the following month.
Plenty of action to look forwards to over the coming months.