The Official E4300 Overclocking Thread

wiggyuk · 12 Feb 2007 at 16:46

easyrider said:
The 4300 is a useful cpu in a budget performance environment.

I have just bought a Asrock 945G DVI mobo that has a limit of around 300 FSB.

Twin this with a E4300 and the 9x Multi and you have a very nice 2.7ghz budget media pc.

That will be faster than a FX 62

all for around £150

As said if you have a DS3 or a mobo with nice high FSB limits the 6300 is the better cpu.

What do you mean by DS3 mobo ?

easyrider · 12 Feb 2007 at 16:53

wiggyuk said:
What do you mean by DS3 mobo ?

The Gigabyte DS3 mobo

wiggyuk · 12 Feb 2007 at 20:57

easyrider said:
The Gigabyte DS3 mobo

Is this the best board to use with the conroes ?

Bennah · 12 Feb 2007 at 21:07

easyrider said:
Make your E4300 boot at 9x 266 effectively the same as a 6600

Perfect for Asrock mobos

Very nice.

Does it run at that stock volts etc?

I like this mod, I wonder how long it lasts... Could get a E4300, mod it and overclock from there. Nice start off @ 266x9. The high multi could be assitance when watercooling is involved.

My plan is: E4300 or E6300 on a Asus P5N-E SLi with GSkill HZ's cooled with Water

easyrider · 12 Feb 2007 at 22:34

Bennah said:
Very nice.

Does it run at that stock volts etc?

I like this mod, I wonder how long it lasts... Could get a E4300, mod it and overclock from there. Nice start off @ 266x9. The high multi could be assitance when watercooling is involved.

My plan is: E4300 or E6300 on a Asus P5N-E SLi with GSkill HZ's cooled with Water

In my testing most 4300's do 3 ghz on stock vcore

Its only when you strat hitting 3.4ghz + when a big boost in vcore is needed

I needed 1.55 for 3.5ghz and only 1.475 for 3.4ghz

sunama · 12 Feb 2007 at 22:46

easyrider said:
In my testing most 4300's do 3 ghz on stock vcore

Its only when you strat hitting 3.4ghz + when a big boost in vcore is needed

I needed 1.55 for 3.5ghz and only 1.475 for 3.4ghz

Isnt that similar to the E6600s then? My E6600 requires similar vcore settings to reach those speeds.

Does this mean that the E4300 can reach the same speeds as the E6600, using similar vcore?

Kaiju · 12 Feb 2007 at 22:49

sunama said:
Isnt that similar to the E6600s then? My E6600 requires similar vcore settings to reach those speeds.

Does this mean that the E4300 can reach the same speeds as the E6600, using similar vcore?

E6600's have double the cache compared to the E4300, E6300 and E6400, which people say adds an extra 200MHz to the clock.

All the Conroe's are capable of hitting 3-3.6GHz with appropriate cooling.

Bennah · 12 Feb 2007 at 23:13

Cache does'nt really make the difference that some people think it does.

Really, the extra 2MB is not going to boost performance a whole lot.

Easyrider, when did you get your E4300 or if you have a couple, your best one? What week is it?

Does there seem to be good weeks for these C2D's?

markeh · 13 Feb 2007 at 09:22

2 quick questions

What is the stock voltage? I've searched but finding various answer...

What kinda voltages are people needing to get it over 3.4GHz?

Big.Wayne · 13 Feb 2007 at 14:55

markeh said:
What is the stock voltage? I've searched but finding various answer...

It says 1.35v MAX on my box although I have been running it at 1.325v

markeh said:
What kinda voltages are people needing to get it over 3.4GHz?

stock voltage takes it to just above 3GHz, 3.3GHz uses 1.425v, anything above that requires a big jump in Vcore! Keeping it cool at load is the trick (I suppose it is with any CPU's) but once u get to about 1.5vCore it starts to get mega hot??

Ymmv as some chips are better than others, this info is based on one cpu I tested, others may vary. . .

Stephen B · 13 Feb 2007 at 22:41

easyrider said:
In my testing most 4300's do 3 ghz on stock vcore

Its only when you strat hitting 3.4ghz + when a big boost in vcore is needed

I needed 1.55 for 3.5ghz and only 1.475 for 3.4ghz

Aftur much faffing, finally got mt AB9 Quad GT running [jbmicro controller

], anyhoo after my steep learning curve I now have my e4300 running 3.6 with 1.45v, now I need new ram as my corsair vs ddr2-667 probably wont go much higher.

I know most members dont recognise these clocks without orthos, so could someone give me a linky to a noob guide as I'd like to check for outright stability, before I push my luck a bit further

sunama · 13 Feb 2007 at 23:14

download this and run it for a few hours. Normally, on "blend" instability problems will show up within minutes.

eddiew · 14 Feb 2007 at 08:04

Hi all, pardon me breaking into the thread, just adding my 2p

E4300/DS3/Corsair Ballistix 667 arrived yesterday, went together like a charm and posted straight off (a personal first, normally it takes 2-3 tries before my rigs turn on!)

Goes to a 266 bus without additional vCore. Probably go further, but I've hit a curious temperature issue...

Bios and Gigabyte EasyTune both report idles of about 25-28 degrees. EasyTune shows load at 40-43. Left to auto, the CPU fan doesn't always even feel a need to spin.

Normally I'd call it a woohoo moment, except... Thermal Analysis Tool says 45-48 idle, and 60-63 under load!

Which one should I trust? I don't want it to be TAT =(

It's on stock cooling, with the heat-pad thingy that came with the cooler (which for some silly reason was in 3 strips rather than a solid block - although it was neatly done and looked intentional rather than accidental). Only really gave it about 2 hours on-time, so I guess it may need more settling time for that heatpaste to smooth out? Heatsink is warm, but not much more than skin temperature.

Oh, and is it normal for the DS3 northbridge to be hot? I mean 'ouch!' hot down the sides?

Thanks for any advice

*EDIT* Nevermind, this got answered in another thread. TAT it is then. Bother =(

sunama · 14 Feb 2007 at 10:58

eddiew said:
Normally I'd call it a woohoo moment, except... Thermal Analysis Tool says 45-48 idle, and 60-63 under load!

Which one should I trust? I don't want it to be TAT =(

Like you said, TAT is more accurate.

eddiew said:
It's on stock cooling, with the heat-pad thingy that came with the cooler (which for some silly reason was in 3 strips rather than a solid block - although it was neatly done and looked intentional rather than accidental). Only really gave it about 2 hours on-time, so I guess it may need more settling time for that heatpaste to smooth out? Heatsink is warm, but not much more than skin temperature.

If the heatsink is only warm to the touch when your cpu is showing a temp of 60C, the contact between heatsink and cpu is not good. If you have Arctic Silver or other thermal compound, then I would get take off the heatsink, remove that thermal pad and apply the thermal compound then refit the heatsink. The heatsink should be quite hot if the cpu is showing a temp of 63C. Personally, I never bother to use the thermal pads; I prefer thermal compound.

FrenchTart · 14 Feb 2007 at 13:22

I'm only getting 3.3 out of mine and it's running *very* hot. Almost regret selling my 6400 and getting the cheaper 4300 now (sold 6300 for same as I paid for it).

Anyone used the Scythe Ninja Rev B AND the Tuniq Tower? How much better is the Tuniq at high temps/reasonable airflow cooling?

Jleo · 14 Feb 2007 at 13:26

Aekeron said:
Anyone used the Scythe Ninja Rev B AND the Tuniq Tower? How much better is the Tuniq at high temps/reasonable airflow cooling?

This is the most recent Tuniq Tower review, the Intel E6800 cpu is part of the test bed.

Review date January 15th, 2007

http://www.anandtech.com/casecooling/showdoc.aspx?i=2906&p=3

This is a link to Madshrimps HSF shootout

http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&number=11&artpage=1823&articID=419
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FrenchTart · 14 Feb 2007 at 13:33

Normally I like Anandtech but that review:

*Doesn't use Orthos to stress the CPU "properly"

*Uses nTune rather than TAT to read the temps

and lastly doesn't compare the TT to the Sycthe.

Thanks for the link anyhow

Guess it's time for me to make friends with google...

Jleo · 14 Feb 2007 at 13:42

Aekeron said:
Anyone used the Scythe Ninja Rev B AND the Tuniq Tower? How much better is the Tuniq at high temps/reasonable airflow cooling?

2°C-3°C save your nails
Need to watch the nail polish wouldn't do to chip anything whilst looking for the GKey

FrenchTart · 14 Feb 2007 at 13:44

Damn. I was hoping for a bit more of a difference.

I have the Sycthe whilst my housemate has the TT. I guess a lot of the problem is my motherboard. My DS3 just doesn't like playing ball at much higher than 400FSB.

eddiew · 14 Feb 2007 at 14:14

sunama said:
If the heatsink is only warm to the touch when your cpu is showing a temp of 60C, the contact between heatsink and cpu is not good. If you have Arctic Silver or other thermal compound, then I would get take off the heatsink, remove that thermal pad and apply the thermal compound then refit the heatsink. The heatsink should be quite hot if the cpu is showing a temp of 63C. Personally, I never bother to use the thermal pads; I prefer thermal compound.

Yeah, it does suggest that either the HSF is loose, or TAT is lying... I'll check the contact, make sure it's not bent or anything stupid, and see if I can find something suitable to clean the gunk off so I can squirt in some artic silver ^^

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