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Omaeka said:
Classic Striker vs Grappler though, Mir's advantage within grappling is much more significant than Daniel's advantage standing, although thats how its been in every one of Mir's fights, so your probably right. Why he doesn't go to Xtreme Couture or Deathclutch and roll with Overeem/Lesnar for a few months is beyond me, he needs a better wrestling game. If he could force the fights to the ground he'd be the best in the world right now. I don't get why he gets oustruck so much though, hes a Kenpo Shodan... :confused:

Would love to see him vs Werdum.
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Striker vs Grappler? While I will admit that Cormier doesnt possess the BJJ skills of Frank Mir, his wrestling chops are probably the best in HW MMA. Look at the way he took down and bossed Josh Barnett in the GP final. I believe he was also an olympic silver medalist?

I think the biggest problem with Frank Mir is that he doesnt like to get hit, and retreats into his shell when he gets tagged. At which point he becomes increasingly passive, and you can see his will shrink with every blow. If you look at the Mir vs Cro Cop fight (which Mir won, I know) you will see what I mean.
 
Omaeka said:
Classic Striker vs Grappler though, Mir's advantage within grappling is much more significant than Daniel's advantage standing, although thats how its been in every one of Mir's fights, so your probably right. Why he doesn't go to Xtreme Couture or Deathclutch and roll with Overeem/Lesnar for a few months is beyond me, he needs a better wrestling game. If he could force the fights to the ground he'd be the best in the world right now. I don't get why he gets oustruck so much though, hes a Kenpo Shodan... :confused:

Would love to see him vs Werdum.
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This is nothing like a striker vs grappler matchup.

It's a grappler vs grappler, Cromier just also happens to have heavy hands. Like most decent wrestlers it would seem.

I know Cormier isn't going to be submitting Mir anytime soon, but he trains at with tops dudes at AKA so he will be prepared.
 
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Cormier will win this one easy I think. His wrestling is world class and I don't see Mir being able to take him down. I think he will KO/TKO Mir without a doubt.
 
Mirs gonna die..... just like he would have against cain.

But i give mir props for moving to strikeforce to get knocked out.... he manned up
 
I think Mir has better striking than you guys are giving him credit for, and he is the best heavyweight at working off his back that's not called "Werdum"; I honestly wouldn't be shocked if Frank took this one, although I would be a little surprised.
 
frank does have good boxing but its no where as fast or accurate or powerful as jds... or cains or cormiers.

And im a frank fan :)

I would have prefered to see frank mir vs werdum.....
 
Not at all. Not even sure why he's having the privilege of fighting Rua. Should be ended quickly. But it's on Fox so I guess they needed a certain KO.

Also


Rua v Vera this weekend.
Benson v Edgar next.
Ronda v Kaufman the week after.
2 week break then Hendo vs Jones!

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LAS VEGAS – On Monday Ultimate Fighting Championship President Dana White announced that UFC on FOX 4 headliners Mauricio "Shogun" Rua (20-6 MMA, 4-4 UFC) and Brandon Vera (12-5 MMA, 8-5 UFC) are competing this weekend for a shot at the promotion's light-heavyweight title.

He later told USA TODAY Sports/MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) that co-headliners Ryan Bader (14-2 MMA, 7-2 UFC) and Lyoto Machida (17-3 MMA, 9-3 UFC) also will have that opportunity.

"Whoever wins the most impressively on Saturday night gets the shot at the title," White said.

"I put together the fights that fans want to see," White said. "The fans didn't like the Rua and Vera choice, so here it is: The guy that wins most impressively on Saturday night out of the co-main event and the main event will get the shot at the winner of Jon Jones vs. Dan Henderson."
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Really hope Machida gets another shot!
 
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Shogun and Machida are both coming off loses, both were dominated by Jones, and now they're both one fight away from another title shot?

I remember when 205 used to be the deepest division, now apparently it is the shallowest.

And as for Vera and Bader, well they have also both been dominated by Jones and are even less deserving of a title shot than Shogun or Machida.

Problem is I can't actually think of anyone else more deserving of a title shot, Jones basically cleaned out the division in barely a year. I guess we had better hope that Hendo lands a H-bomb and makes 205 interesting again.

edit: actually more excited to see Rousey fight again than by anything the UFC is offering in August.
 
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sonicology said:
Shogun and Machida are both coming off loses, both were dominated by Jones, and now they're both one fight away from another title shot?

I remember when 205 used to be the deepest division, now apparently it is the shallowest.

And as for Vera and Bader, well they have also both been dominated by Jones and are even less deserving of a title shot than Shogun or Machida.

Problem is I can't actually think of anyone else more deserving of a title shot, Jones basically cleaned out the division in barely a year. I guess we had better hope that Hendo lands a H-bomb and makes 205 interesting again.

edit: actually more excited to see Rousey fight again than by anything the UFC is offering in August.
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Alexander Gustafsson after a few more wins should get a shot at Jones.

I do however find it strange that guy's coming off 1 win can get a title fight, it's not earned as much as in other divisions. Yet some guy's in other weight classes can string 4-5 wins and not get a shot at the title.
 
Neutralmilk said:
Alexander Gustafsson after a few more wins should get a shot at Jones.
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Gustafsson is a prospect but he needs a top 10 win.

Davis (who beat Gustafsson quite convincingly) is closer to a title shot, but he had nothing for Evans and would have even less for Jones.
 
sonicology said:
Gustafsson is a prospect but he needs a top 10 win.

Davis (who beat Gustafsson quite convincingly) is closer to a title shot, but he had nothing for Evans and would have even less for Jones.
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Gustafsson has won 5 in a row, Diabate, Te-Huna, Hamill, Matyushenko and Thiago Silva.

Jones beat Vera, Matyushenko and Bader before getting a title shot.
 
It wasnt so much about the quality of Jones' oponents that got him the title shot either, it was the way that he brutally disposed of them inside a round, one after another.
 
Rids said:
It wasnt so much about the quality of Jones' oponents that got him the title shot either, it was the way that he brutally disposed of them inside a round, one after another.
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That and timing! He was forefront in Dana's mind because of his wins when Evans was shelved and stepped in to take the fight on relatively short notice as I recall!
 
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