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If Aspinall beats Jones I’m not sure what he’s going to do afterwards. HW division looks weak. He absolutely schooled the current third and fourth ranked fighters and would most likely smash Gane.

Division isn’t strong enough, only big name fight would be Poatan if he stepped up but Aspinall would probably take him to the ground and that would be that.

Some better fighters need to come along
 
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to be fair to MVP - he looked excellent at 37 years old... Gassed a bit in the 3rd round but totally dismantled the Pirate.

Stoppage was early for me in the Issy fight - should have more chance to recover.
 
booyaka said:
to be fair to MVP - he looked excellent at 37 years old... Gassed a bit in the 3rd round but totally dismantled the Pirate.

Stoppage was early for me in the Issy fight - should have more chance to recover.
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MVP looked good yeah, the bullet couldnt get close. As for the stoppage perfect stoppage imo, was hurt taking damage and on his back. It was only ending badly.
 
Nate75 said:
Yep just caught the MVP fight after the rugby and football etc.

Page was outstanding. Actually better than I thought he might be.

Izzy I think will retire, or "should" retire now. He has a great history. But I don't see him coming back from that (might be wrong ofc).
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Yeah I agree. Was absolutely top of the game just a few years back and looked unbeatable. Shows how tough it is to stay at the top of that sport, particular in his division as its IMO the most contested in the UFC. Izzy probably going to drop to 4th when they do the rankings tomorrow, long way back to a title shot from there. Likely not happening in 2025 I'd say.
 
booyaka said:
to be fair to MVP - he looked excellent at 37 years old... Gassed a bit in the 3rd round but totally dismantled the Pirate.

Stoppage was early for me in the Issy fight - should have more chance to recover.
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MVP managed to be very evasive but holy crap that was one BORING FIGHT. For two elite strikers, their strike rate was absolutely woeful and so far MVP has shown himself as a massively overhyped and under-delivering fighter when it comes to exciting fights.

Also don't get me started on the Pavlovich fight, what was that idiot and his team thinking? The dude was a destroyer who has made a career on knocking people out in BRUTAL fashion and in this fight he suddenly decided: "I want to prove to people I can grapple badly and lay on top of someone doing nothing for literal minutes"? It was one of the worst heavyweight fights I have seen, maybe Top 5 worst of all time. The UFC need to have a hard word with fighters who do that crap because overall the main card was a dud in terms of entertainment, the prelims were FAR better.
Vandle said:
Yeah I agree. Was absolutely top of the game just a few years back and looked unbeatable. Shows how tough it is to stay at the top of that sport, particular in his division as its IMO the most contested in the UFC. Izzy probably going to drop to 4th when they do the rankings tomorrow, long way back to a title shot from there. Likely not happening in 2025 I'd say.
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Izzy lost that fight the moment he stopped it for the eye poke then carried on 10 seconds later. He should have either not stopped it or taken the time he needed. Instead, he gave the initiative to his opponent who took full advantage of it.
 
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Poor card that. The Crute fight was entertaining but the rest was crap. Main event massively one sided yet never even close to a stoppage.
 
I feel for chandler, sat out the game for 2 years to hope he gets a fight with CokeHead Conor.
Now he gets given Paddy, I'd be gutted tbh.

Also Ilia Topuria has vacated his belt to perm move to LW, Volk and Lopes fighting for FW title now.
Not sure I believe Volk deserves to be champ again, he hasnt won a fight in almost 2 years.
 
sidimmu said:
I feel for chandler, sat out the game for 2 years to hope he gets a fight with CokeHead Conor.
Now he gets given Paddy, I'd be gutted tbh.

Also Ilia Topuria has vacated his belt to perm move to LW, Volk and Lopes fighting for FW title now.
Not sure I believe Volk deserves to be champ again, he hasnt won a fight in almost 2 years.
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Volk only lost twice to the champ in a weight division above and then to Ilia. He is still very possibly currently the best guy in the FW division now that Ilia has vacated.
 
sidimmu said:
Also has not won a fight in almost 2 years now.
I am sorry but that doesn't exactly give "champ" worthy status.
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Who would you put in the FW title fight out of curiosity?

Everyone else at the top has been beaten except Movsar Evloev, and you can't have him as a champ yet as he's not selling tickets!

Holloway just got KO'd in his title fight, Yair has lost his last 2, Ortega has just lost to Lopez and Sterling lost to Evloev.
 
PermaChanged said:
Who would you put in the FW title fight out of curiosity?
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No I can see why they have made this fight the title fight, but I just suspect Volk is going to get merked again.

Evloev will probably never sell tickets which is the problem, as we'll end up with another Belal in FW, but he's probably most deserving.
 
sidimmu said:
Also has not won a fight in almost 2 years now.
I am sorry but that doesn't exactly give "champ" worthy status.
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That's ok, you are of course entitled to your opinion. However, in the end if he beats Lopez he will be champ regardless of whether anyone likes it or not. Volk is certainly a more worthy and accomplished champ than Lopez.
 
Richdog said:
Volk is certainly a more worthy and accomplished champ than Lopez.
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Well yeah, because one has been champ and one hasnt.
One is at the tail end of his career and the other is not.

Its okay to ride a fighter, I get it and have done it for others, but when you are looking at the elite and top level of combat, someone who's lost their last 2 should not be propelled to a title fight.
 
'Lost their last 2'

1 being a title fight for the title they're fighting for again, the other being a title fight for a higher weight division.

He's hardly been turned over by lower ranked fighters in the same division and then thrown a title shot out of nowhere.

Lopes is the highest ranked person in the division that Volk hasn't already beaten when he was champion before, it makes plenty of sense for that to be the fight for the newly vacated title. Volk has lost one featherweight fight in his career, that was when he lost his title to the Champion who has just vacated. I'm not sure why this means he's likely to get 'merked again'.

Max Holloway is next highest ranked FW behind Volk, he also lost to Topuira and has lost to Volk three times before, so hard to argue he would be more deserving than Volk.

Then you have Lopes who is in the fight, then Evloev. I don't think Evloev has done enough to leapfrog the other guys to a title fight but would certainly expect him to be in the picture for one of the next defences for whoever wins it, probably more so if it's Volk because they won't want Volk vs Max 4.
 
Kenai said:
He's hardly been turned over by lower ranked fighters in the same division and then thrown a title shot out of nowhere.
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Yeah he hasnt and I understand the context you have provided, but still 2 losses in a row to go into a title fight is crazy.
Give the guy a tune up or someone a little bit lower ranked before going straight to the top again.
But also father time is a thing and at 36, its only a matter of time, ignoring this is naïve, we've seen a few great fighters past 40, but a majority are done by 35.

Max has already confirmed hes not going back to FW. So talking about him is irrelevant.

Again I am not sitting here saying others are not deserving the change etc, but there is others to choose from who are on winning streaks. Volk is a great fighter, there is no doubting it but its probably best to take a tune up, especially if you have been finished in your last 2 fights.
 
sidimmu said:
Yeah he hasnt and I understand the context you have provided, but still 2 losses in a row to go into a title fight is crazy.
Give the guy a tune up or someone a little bit lower ranked before going straight to the top again.
But also father time is a thing and at 36, its only a matter of time, ignoring this is naïve, we've seen a few great fighters past 40, but a majority are done by 35.

Max has already confirmed hes not going back to FW. So talking about him is irrelevant.

Again I am not sitting here saying others are not deserving the change etc, but there is others to choose from who are on winning streaks. Volk is a great fighter, there is no doubting it but its probably best to take a tune up, especially if you have been finished in your last 2 fights.
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Two title fight losses in a row is very very different to just two losses in a row. One of those was his own title loss, often you'd see a fighter grab a rematch for this sort of thing and the other fights being in a different division are only semi relevant really.

If you're putting Volk into needing a warm up fight and Max is out of the picture, then you're essentially talking Lopes vs Evloev, which we've already seen (though it was a FOTN to be fair) and to be honest would be pretty disrespectful to Volk - "Yeah, you've only ever lost one fight at FW, so we're giving the vacant title fight to a couple of guys on decent streaks against low ranked competition". Doesn't really make any sense to overlook him to me.

As you point out too, age is a thing - if they don't get him back in the picture now, they'll leave it too late and waste whatever capital they have with his name.

Edit - and lets put a bit of context to his LW losses too - he moved to LW because he'd pretty much cleared out FW at the time, was PFP #1 and had already defended against Max multiple times. Makhachev was basically the only fight available to him and he took it to a close decision. He then went back to FW and beat the interim FW champion, before being asked to take on Makhachev again on 10 days notice before then continuing with the planned Topuria fight. Simplifying the situation to 'yeah but he lost 2 fights in a row' is really too simplistic to give a fair reflection of his standing in the division and the company as a whole.
 
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