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Omaeka said:
Why does everyone just assume Cain has a bad chin? Is it because Kongo (who hits significantly harder than Jr.) dropped him? Or because JDS knocked him out?

Would you say Silva has an awful chin because Chael dropped him a few times? 'Page has a bad chin cause Wandy sent him through the ropes?

Actually its almost impossible to compare him to other fighters under 205lbs as nobody down there hits with even a fraction of the power Kongo/Santos do, not even Rampage.

Who are the only fighters to try and take JDS down? Mir & Nelson, neither of which are particularly brutal wrestlers. Cain brings a whole new level of grappling to the division and has the most efficient and brutal ground and pound in the sport. So long as Cain plays it smart unlike last time, and gets Junior to the floor, we are going to see an absolute bloodbath as is the usual Velasq fashion.

JDS isn't much faster than Ubereem, if at all. Once Ubereem gets a hold of him, whats he going to do? He'll either eat some Muay Thai that comes with way beyond K.O power, or he'll get ragdolled like an infant to the ground, and then we'll see what a Nogueira brown belt can do, lol.

Junior has never faced a striker who's as technically sound as Ubereem, the best he has fought is Mir, an maybe Carwin (wouldn't really rate Carwin as a good striker, he has the hardest hands in MMA but is useless against anybody who can move).

The Reem will be a total shock to Junior and he won't know how to deal with him, just like nobody has since moving up to 260, people claim Jones, Silva, Junior etc. are the guys nobody has 'figured' out yet and whatnot, why is that never said about Ubereem? I have no idea how so few people have realized how truly overpowered a guy like he is in a sport like M.M.A.

As for losing to Rua, Liddel etc.

You stick a 205 Junior against a pride Rua or a prime Liddel, he'll die. Ubereem realized 205 isn't where a man of his stature and size belongs. I like Junior but so far his career has been made up of fighting either wooden horses, grapplers, or strikers with styles that he will always do well against.

As for TRT, I believe anyone can use it to simply bolster their own testosterone levels legally, it isn't at all difficult to be granted permission to use it, and if JDS doesn't use it, then that's his fault to be honest, same with HGH, I'm not against any P.E.D besides Steroids.

To be honest though, with how rapidly pharmaceuticals are advancing and some of the amazing drugs you have now, let alone in the future; being so strict on P.E.D's is backwards in my opinion. As Joe Rogan said; 'One day there will be a drug that can quite literally turn you into Superman, they can ban it all they want, but fighters will find ways of taking it and not getting caught. Guys like Junior are going to have a real ****ing problem with **** like this when it happens'.

Such strict ridicule of P.E.D's are only damaging the sport in the long run. The only reason I disagree with Steroids is the mental issues it can cause, otherwise people should be able to do whatever they want within their own bodies.

Also; yeah, it is silly to think that they have never juiced, its silly to think most athletes in this day and age haven't. Even professional bikers are starting to take P.E.D's, because they work.
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All i'll say is we will see re. Jds vs reem.
 
Huerta suffered another loss this weekend, brutal soccer kick KO, should be a no contest really as although the ord he was fighting for does allow soccer kicks and knees on downed opponents. The ref can decide if they are allowed at the time and says "Open guard" if they can.

If the fighter is rocked and therefore in real danger if they are hit the ref won't say it, when Huerta was down the ref was shouting "no kick no kick" but still he got soccer kicked :/

Maybe time for him to retire 1-6 in his last 7 fights.

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It will mix it up in that he is definitely more beatable than Anderson, his record shows that.

But MW is still the least stacked division, needs lots of new exciting fighters to mix it up some more., saying that they did just sign Lombard, will be interesting to see how he handles life in the UFC, i'd love to see him vs Sonnen or Silva.
 
Omaeka said:
Classic Striker vs Grappler though, Mir's advantage within grappling is much more significant than Daniel's advantage standing, although thats how its been in every one of Mir's fights, so your probably right. Why he doesn't go to Xtreme Couture or Deathclutch and roll with Overeem/Lesnar for a few months is beyond me, he needs a better wrestling game. If he could force the fights to the ground he'd be the best in the world right now. I don't get why he gets oustruck so much though, hes a Kenpo Shodan... :confused:

Would love to see him vs Werdum.
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This is nothing like a striker vs grappler matchup.

It's a grappler vs grappler, Cromier just also happens to have heavy hands. Like most decent wrestlers it would seem.

I know Cormier isn't going to be submitting Mir anytime soon, but he trains at with tops dudes at AKA so he will be prepared.
 
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Obviously nothing is certain, but I think you badly overestimate Reems chances against JDS.

As for Struve, he needs to use his length once he does so he will be a much better fighter, I can't see him being champ but that's not to say it won't happen, this is MMA :)
 
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Omaeka said:
Well, I don't see where JDS beats The Reem, he definitely doesn't have any grappling advantage whatsoever, nobody on the planet could out-clinch him or keep him down, the only way to beat Reem with grappling is a bottom sub IMO, and JDS' striking is infinitely less dynamic. Pure boxing JDS would win but this is MMA. JDS' MMA isn't better than Reems, nowhere near close.



I didn't mean Struve per sé, although I do think hes great, its the concept of a huge, nigh seven foot fighter who can stay huge for the division, being big for a HW is difficult but when somebody finds out how to do it, along with huge height, they will absolutely lock 265 down.
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I beat Cain or Cormier could put him on his back and keep him there, his grappling isn't amazing he is no Werdum he won an ADCC European trials didn't he? I wonder who he actually beat, I bet a bunch of nobodies.

Yes this is MMA striking but I think JDS has way faster hands and is more accurate with them, yes he isn't quite the size of Reem but I don't think Reem can bully him about easily, he is still a big dude.

You have to look at things objectively, who exactly did Reem beat to become rated so highly, a post serious illness Lesnar, who should have retired. An Werdum who got literally uppercutted out of the UFC by JDS are his only real claims to beating ranked fighters.
 
Omaeka said:
He KO'd Badr Hari and easily submitted Mark Hunt, something not even Fedor could do. I agree JDS has more impressive opponents in MMA, but the guys Reem has beat within K-1 all strike far better than JDS. Badr Hari and Tyrone Spong for example, would tool JDS in standup. Not disrespecting JDS, but his record isn't very impressive when you consider the fact he's just sprawl and brawled a bunch of grapplers. The only real threat standing he faced was a tomato can Crocop, who landed pretty consistently on JDS and cut him up, and Shane Carwin, who stylistically doesn't stand a chance against a crisp, technical striker.

Not to mention what Overeem did to Rogers, who is far, far bigger and stronger than JDS. Overeem has dominated everyone he's faced since moving up from 205. The only bad fighter Reem has faught has been James Thompson, a lot of the others aren't anything hugely spectacular, but they are fighters to be taken seriously.

I don't think JDS has a better record when styles come into it. After JDS has beat Kongo and Reem, then I'll think hes as legit as everyone claims. I know hes a badass, but the hype is too much.
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Rogers whose claim to fame is what? Beating Arlovski at a point where a light gust of wind would knock him out. Have you seen Rogers record recently?

I know Reem beat Badr but then Badr also beat Reem too and again we get back to the fact this is not K1 this is MMA.

Can't wait to see the fight, they need to hurry up and get it sorted.
 
Omaeka said:
Not fooled by Reem's physique, I've followed him since before I watched M.M.A.

If Reem lands the jab, hook, straight, headkick, gets a clinch, or even steps in the cage it's probably over.

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You felt the same about Chaels rematch with Silva, that didn't turn out to well either.

Reems main problem is his chin it's not terrible (he isn't arlovski) but it's not that great either (he is no Hendo), no amount of bulking up on "horse meat" is going to change that.

He couldn't take the sort of shots that Nelson was taking I don't think.
 
The only fight that's worth anything is her vs Cyborg.

But she ran from 145 so she didn't have to fight Cyborg and is now calling Cyborg to come to 135 which Cyborg has said many times she can't make.

Her plan was to "go win the 135 title and then go back to 145 and hold both" it seems to have changed drastically.
 
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