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I can understand Machida turning it down, he lost to Bones when he had a full camp behind him and so is likely to lose again taking it on such short notice.

Bones has had a camp and is ready to fight, he should have accepted whoever they offered him first.

I hope Belfort knocks him out, he might regret not choosing to fight Sonnen then lol.
 
He is the champ of the next division up, he has had a training camp preparing for a wrestler with big power.

Chael hasn't bulked up to 205 yet, he hasn't had a training camp and he still wanted to fight.

Jones had a huge advantage over Chael even if he hadn't specifically trained for him, it's a ***** move and I don't think any of the other champs would have done it.

He has royally done himself over if he loses to Belfort, he has in fact made this even more risky for himself, maybe not the opponent but the consequences are definitely higher risk.

The UFC made it clear to Jones if he didn't accept the card would be scrapped, he knew what would happen. This is why there are a bunch of angry undercard fighters and lots of fighters in general are annoyed with him.
 
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booyaka said:
I'm going way out on a limb here but don't see the big issue here.

Jones's opponent got injured, Jones was offered a completely different fighter at 8 days notice and said no. Where's the problem with that?

Can you imagine the same thing in boxing? Pacman is offered a fight with a different fighter at 8 days notice -no way he would agree.

I think JBJ has made the correct choice. At the end of the day, the contracted fight was with henderson, fight gets cancelled thru no fault of Jones's and then Dana throws a hissyfit and cancels the whole of the card to make Jones look bad.

All the other fighters - yeah, I can see their point but it's Dana who cancelled the card - not Jones - take it up with Dana - oh that's right - they won't cause he's the boss.

I don't see GSP taking a fight on 8 days notice with a different opponent and putting his title on the line (ignoring current injury etc).

All this Jones hating is way over the top. People are always to quick to knock you down when your at the top of the pile, Jones has made a choice - Dana didn't like it so decided to pull the whole card - Dana is the one that's needing sorted out here.
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Wanderlei once took a fight with the heavy weight Mark Hunt on 3 days notice. That is the kind of fighter the sport wants and it's one of the many reason that Wanderlei is a legend of the sport anywhere anytime any weight Wanderlei will fight.

If you're a champ you should at least have the confidence to fight someone who is getting what, a week to train. When you are in peak fighting shape and apparently the number 3 p4p fighter in the world.
 
Another pointless Silva fight at 205, it should be exciting I mean Bonnar hasn't ever been finished except for cuts.

But it's pointless.

If Silva fights at 205 it should be against Bones.

Or as above it should be against someone who has a legit chance of beating him, I'd love to see him fight Rashad at 205 or even 185 if Rashad drops.
 
Bonnar will stand and bang, it's what he does. He fights for the fans and never puts on a bad show, I doubt he will grapple Silva.

I know it was early in his career but Bones couldn't finish him and he has been destroying people.

It should be entertaining if nothing else :)
 
What rubs people up the wrong way is the UFC seem to feed him sub par strikers who will walk at him swinging.

Each of his 205 opponents have been hand picked for him to beat, this is no different.

If he wants to fight at 205 then challenge him, otherwise there is no point in doing it. Yes he could lose, it's MMA no fight is a given, but they give him opponents who he is very likely to handle easily.

I know MMA math doesn't quite work, but Bonnar got out struck by Forrest... we all saw what happened to Forrest against Silva.
 
I don't think Chael really has a chance against Jones, he would get lit up striking and if he can take him down he is always at risk of being subbed.

I'd rather see Henderson take on Jones, but I don't think he can beat him either.
 
Finally the MW division won't be stale any more, fair play to Weidman he didn't fall for all the antics and just kept pushing forward on him.

In a way it's almost like he deliberately gave the belt up from his post fight speech.
 
This loss has possibly ruined the Jones vs Silva superfight.

Jones is an even worse matchup for him than Weidman was anyway.

I cant wait for Lyoto to go down to middleweight if Silva is not bothering chasing the title anymore.
 
McBain said:
Out of 4 takedowns he immediately got up from 2, sure he stalled a bit in the second round but he knows that Mendes is going to tire himself out with grappling like that on 2 weeks notice, he played it smart. Silly move from Mendes to go for the guillotine though. He got taken down against Siver a couple of times as well, he's like Bisping in that he is able to shoot straight back up most of the time.

I think for a European fighter they know their takedown defense is pretty much never going to be good enough to keep the fight standing against a top, top wrestler, so they will concentrate on their ability to reposition to get back up.

I agree it would be interesting to see Mendes in a full training camp, Edgar could be tricky in that he literally doesn't tire. Could be a tough fight for Conor.

On a side note, how bad was Sinead O'Conner?
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It was his complete lack of doing anything from his back that worried me, sure he threw some elbows and slaps, but he didn't attempt to sweep or sub and he got hit lots.

He only got up because Chad went for a silly guillotine.

The dude is legit there is no doubting that, but it was clear to see his ground game is lacking (for now) obviously he will be working on it.

His striking is just awesome to watch though, but I think that fight exposed him a bit and people will be setting out gameplans for it.

I'd really like to see a rematch with a full training camp for Chad in the future. Edgar is also an exciting fight and of course Aldo.
 
Drizmod said:
From what I can see she seemed to have slipped and the moment she looked back around it was too late the foot was on her face already and from there its all history
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She got clipped with a punch I think.

So glad this hype train is over. People can stop compairing her to the greats now. She is in such a weak division women's mma is still in its infancy she's essentially Royce.

I don't mind Ronda just hate the force feeding we have had to ensure about her being p4p and could beat loads of men.

Hopefully McGregor is derailed next then things will calm down
 

Nice video for people that think Ronda wanted to stand with Holm, she didn't she just couldn't do what she normally does to get it to the ground.

Charge someone swinging get punched a few times get clinch and take them down.

Holms had the gameplan to negate that and this breakdown shows some of the subtle things she did to stop Rondas game, they clearly drilled this stuff non stop and team Jackson are so good at making gameplans around opponents weaknesses.
 
Davey_Pitch said:
I definitely thought it was an upset but as early as 30 seconds into the fight I could see Rousey was in trouble. I don't want to take anything away from Holm, who fought a perfect fight, but I thought her job was made easier by Rousey's ego. It seems like Rousey liked to beat people at their own game, like when she beat Correria standing up, but it was obvious that Holm is a fair more accomplished striker. At that point, Rousey should've done everything she could to take the fight to the ground.

At the end of the day, Rousey is a world class judoka who has learned to become a decent stand up fighter. She was up against a world class striker who had solid takedown defence. Her best chance was to take the fight to the ground and go for the submission. The fact she didn't seem to try to change her tactics speaks volumes about the quality of her game plan, as well as the poor advice she got between rounds.
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Watch the video that I and EVH have posted, this wasn't about her wanting to stand with Holm, she couldn't get Holm down with her normal technique (storm forward punching get clinch and throw) Holm wasn't there and when she was, she used perfect technique to prevent the throw.

When she did get taken down, she got up out of there. She knew what she was doing.

Ronda had no idea how to deal with the lateral movement, everyone else gritted their teeth and fired back when she charged in, perfect to just charge through into the clinch. One thing Ronda does have is a decent chin, she takes shots to get the clinch.

Holly executed the perfect game plan and the perfect fight to deal with Ronda, it was really great to watch.

Lots of people keep asking why Ronda didn't shoot, it's because she is a Judoka not a wrestler, Judokas don't often if ever shoot, with the rules as they are now you can't just shoot (in judo)
 
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