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The verses aren't very singalong friendly (or singer friendly, the way I scan them!) and the chorus is so short, but it's such a great tune. I originally learned it because I used to have to trek miles after Mum as she wandered off trying to find her Mum, or her "real home", or just to get away from me, the one who kept interfering with her life... or trying to keep her safe from herself, as I preferred to call it.

For the record, I'm in that strange little suburb of both Manchester and London (darned trains!) previously known as Macclesfield.

Back in the early 80s I used to do a Rockabilly version of it.

My new drummer Jason comes from Macclesfield but he was born in Stoke and his Mum & Dad live about half a mile from me.
He doesn't mind the commute to Stoke.
He's 50 and he's only ever played in Jazz & Big Bands but what a great rock drummer.
I hope he's the one because in 12 months he's our fifth drummer :(
 
I hope he's the one because in 12 months he's our fifth drummer :(
To lose one drummer may be considered a blessing. Losing four sounds like the drummer might not be the problem. Have you tried being nice to them? :-)

Seriously, good luck with this one. Life can easily get in the way of a serious hobby like you folk have, and getting several people's free time (and temperaments!) to overlap consistently isn't easy.
 
To lose one drummer may be considered a blessing. Losing four sounds like the drummer might not be the problem. Have you tried being nice to them? :)

Seriously, good luck with this one. Life can easily get in the way of a serious hobby like you folk have, and getting several people's free time (and temperaments!) to overlap consistently isn't easy.

the four of us are really nice people, every song is voted on etc.

1) My 22 year old nephew, stayed with us for 3 years but it really wasn't what he wanted so left Feb 2021.
2) A complete waster, joins the band and then every week I'd get a drunken phone call about how crap some of our songs are. After the fifth week I just sacked him.
3) Blackie, he'd still be with us but he's so ill. He's got to have 4 vertebrae fused in his neck and then two months later 4 in his back. he's also got one leg but a great drummer.
4) I could ground & pound this guy. The other 3 picked him while I was on holiday. I questioned his motive for joining because I'd seen him in some heavy metal bands but he said he wanted it. Because of his commitment to us I bought a digital mixer. Two weeks later he joins another band which is no problem but he then started to tell us he couldn't do 12 of the gigs because of other commitments. This is how stupid he is, I keep a big Gig List for all the local artists in Stoke so I know what people are getting up to, these dates coincided with his other band. A month ago I'm browsing Join My Band and he's got an advert wanting to join a professional tribute band. I sacked him two weeks ago.
5) Jason from Macclesfield, he looks perfect but hey ho.

The first drummer we had changed Gender after about 12 months and started to play up a lot. I can do with Gender changes but being unprofessional I can't do with.
She is now with a Goth band that are doing very well for themselves and we are still good mates.
 
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Blackie sounds phenomenal - One leg, broken back and was still drumming up to a point? Incredible.

Unbelievable, he had stored his kit away last year and then we asked him to do a gig two weeks ago. We arranged for his kit to be loaded into his car, we prepared his kit on stage and made him sit down until it was showtime and then we put all his kit away. It is now back in storage. he also played out of his skin that night and I kept telling him to calm down.
I feel so sorry for him because he should have had the operations 2 years ago and it isn't in sight.
 
The verses aren't very singalong friendly (or singer friendly, the way I scan them!) and the chorus is so short, but it's such a great tune. I originally learned it because I used to have to trek miles after Mum as she wandered off trying to find her Mum, or her "real home", or just to get away from me, the one who kept interfering with her life... or trying to keep her safe from herself, as I preferred to call it.


Don't worry, it was late and I like a big paragraph. :) I've got versions of most suggestions I think I can work with if required, but "Great is Thy Faithfulness", "When I survey the Wondrous Cross" and "How Great Thou Art" are hymns which I'm struggling to learn to sing... they just don't have any stickability for me, and I need to learn the tunes before I learn the chords. This is the problem with being TAB based and not music based. I need the timing from the words not the sheet!

The good news is that I have an email today saying they might have found a pianist familiar with such music, and I think a lot of these older tunes work far better with the keyboards (organ) and sustained notes they were originally intended to be backed by. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it! Time will tell. There's a little more pressure to get things right in a serious (to them and therefore to me) situation than at the dementia group, where -- I'm very pleased to say! -- they love a good mistake... the more embarrassing the better. :)

For the record, I'm in that strange little suburb of both Manchester and London (darned trains!) previously known as Macclesfield.
ah sry yeah that's too far from me atm, not due up that way for a while though it's probably time the wee man met the extended northern rellies.

Great is Thy Faithfulness is a pig if you try and use the traditional music on guitar, four chords a bar in places. And some of those are jazz chords. The chorus is jumpy too IIRC with possibly some time signature changes on the odd bar here and there. That's what it feels like anyway. You get this nice flowing legato verse and this quasi-staccato chorus line with faith-ful-ness rushed through in a dotted triplet that feels like someone trying to shoe-horn it in where it doesn't quite fit.
When I survey has a different modern tune now that is more commonly used but it's a bit dirgy and the old one is more interesting to sing so long as people have a musical ear. Definitely benefits from keys/organ to lead the traditional version i agree.
How Great Thou Art has received a more modern chord progression but the tune has stayed the same. We had it at our wedding and the band *nailed* it. I think only my staunchly atheistic too-cool-for-school uncle in law didn't enjoy it. Which is a weird thing to say for church music tbh.

Youtube is riddled with "interpretations" and people trying to be "different." This is how HGTA should scan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_dtbmVdQY4

Oh and sorry Elvis, you don't do it like this:
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkJVQN9pK1k[/video]

The boy has just woken up, I'll see if I can find a sensible version of the other two for you later.
 
The boy has just woken up, I'll see if I can find a sensible version of the other two for you later.
Lots of useful tips there already, thanks. I'm sure between those I can already manage and those I can already play/remember I can have a decent go at it, so don't go to any great lengths on my account. After all, they may find that pianist! But I really appreciate your input. One of the fascinating things about this forum has always been how varied the experience on it despite our nerdy computing roots. :-)
 
Zakk Wylde recording these on presumably a fairly standard webcam and it's inbuilt? mic is great :D



e - Richie Faulkner ages agot playing No More Tears...I always wondered where the 'alternate' ending in his video came from

 
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What strings are you all using? I've been using Ernie Ball 10-46 regular slinky's but have just ordered a set of DR Pure Blues for a change and to see what the difference is. Anyone else used them / use them?
 
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Not used them, but would be interested to know your thoughts. Someone recommended me a hybrid set for my 7 string,and they made a real difference - I'd previously only used Ernie ball 9s or 10s.if the Dr's are a step up, may give them a go.
 
What strings are you all using? I've been using Ernie Ball 10-46 regular slinky's but have just ordered a set of DR Pure Blues for a change and to see what the difference is. Anyone else used them / use them?
Ernie Ball 9-42 on my strat. 10s on my Les Paul.
 
Not used them, but would be interested to know your thoughts. Someone recommended me a hybrid set for my 7 string,and they made a real difference - I'd previously only used Ernie ball 9s or 10s.if the Dr's are a step up, may give them a go.
I'll write something up when they arrive and I change them. Might be a week or so because the current set still have some life in them.
 
I changed after years of Ernie Ball to D'Aaddario and wouldn't switch back now.
Yeah I've used EB slinkys (9s) on my humbucker guitar but will be trying something else, preferably with a slightly heavier G string as the nut groove is a bit too big for the slinky string (At some point I'll ask a tech to sort it out). The slinkys are nickle wound, I do wonder if a different metal might give a better tone with my pickups.

The Pacifica uses Daddario's in the manufacturer spec I think so I will stick with that. Fairly sure it's got 10s on there atm though the official spec is 9s so I will try swapping them and see if it affects anything.

I've used EB, Dads and Elixir on the acoustic and must admit the Elixirs are my go-to for that now.

I'm still playing around with the bass. I currently have stainless steel strings on there. They give quite a nice tone tbh.
 
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The slinkys are nickle wound, I do wonder if a different metal might give a better tone with my pickups.
Better is always subjective, but different definitely. The hybrids I mentioned in my previous post are a cobalt wound Ernie ball set. I prefer the sound and feel, but the coating seems to come off fairly easily.
 
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