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builder22 said:
lovely sounding solo...I love stumbling across things like this :D
spent a while tabbing out this video.... only to find out he's got a full lesson video too! :o
I've uploaded the tab anyway if it's any help


the lesson...

the tab...
https://www.mediafire.com/file/uzziwnefg69jtx2/goodbye_to_love.pdf/file

https://www.mediafire.com/file/tinz76u5oaxra27/goodbye_to_love.gpx/file

(timing a bit off in places in the gp file...)
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That's great, many thanks for the tab! I also didn't know that YT vid existed.

I'm so close to nailing the tab that I have originally been going with, I've decided to keep going with it until I can nail it at full speed. I know now it's not technically accurate, but I'm now at a speed whereby I can hear it sounds pretty much right. If I start learning something new, I feel it's going to deflate me. Thanks again to @ik9000 for letting me know it's on the right path. Once I've got this at speed, I will be looking the proper way to play it! Such a great solo! The 2nd solo.. hmm.. probably a long way off for me yet!
 
To be honest oftentimes you learn more by trying to learn the jist / idea behind a solo rather than simply being able to reproduce it note-for-note... For instance I can have a reasonable go at playing some solos (if they aren't too exotic from a theory perspective or too complicated) without ever seeing the tab. Just the other day for example I was listening to the "Guns N' Roses - Don't Cry" solo and then came pretty close to it just messing around - it's not an uber fast Slash solo with lots of technical bits but it's also quite predictable and familiar in terms of note choice. I would say I can do that because over time instead of just learning the tabs I've been looking at how the solos are constructed a bit more

(p.s. sorry reading back this sounds a little arrogant, hopefully it's not as bad as I feel it is - just trying to point out something I think is important/useful)
 
It makes sense and is not arrogant in the sense that is where people should aim to get to over time but for a relative beginner it is a bit beyond them. It does just click and when it does it's great but it takes time and practice and subliminal stuff that only gets there with lots of playing time etc
 
uncle_rufus said:
To be honest oftentimes you learn more by trying to learn the jist / idea behind a solo rather than simply being able to reproduce it note-for-note... For instance I can have a reasonable go at playing some solos (if they aren't too exotic from a theory perspective or too complicated) without ever seeing the tab. Just the other day for example I was listening to the "Guns N' Roses - Don't Cry" solo and then came pretty close to it just messing around - it's not an uber fast Slash solo with lots of technical bits but it's also quite predictable and familiar in terms of note choice. I would say I can do that because over time instead of just learning the tabs I've been looking at how the solos are constructed a bit more

(p.s. sorry reading back this sounds a little arrogant, hopefully it's not as bad as I feel it is - just trying to point out something I think is important/useful)
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No not at all. I hope to be able to one day hear something and be able to at least have a go at playing it :D
 
2StepSteve said:
No not at all. I hope to be able to one day hear something and be able to at least have a go at playing it :D
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I suppose to attempt to turn it into something more constructive as you're learning... the key starting out I think is to try and take on just a little bit of theory - even if it's just the minor/major pentatonic and perhaps a little bit about chord theory (how different chords fit in different positions on the neck). Then when you're learning a piece from Tab try to think about where and how the notes you're learning fit into those patterns. Eventually you start to recognise very often used patterns and licks and will be able to spot them even in things you don't have the tab for
 
My wife got me a new guitar strap for Christmas and I just wanted to recommend the company she got it from. Kilner guitar straps in Yorkshire it is a really nice quality well made strap that I’m really happy with.
 
a1ex2001 said:
My wife got me a new guitar strap for Christmas and I just wanted to recommend the company she got it from. Kilner guitar straps in Yorkshire it is a really nice quality well made strap that I’m really happy with.
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cheers, good guitar straps are hard to find these days. The last one I bought was from gak I think and reasonable, but not as good as the one I'd had before it, which annoyingly I'd lost over the side of a boat in the dark. Long story, don't ask.
 
ik9000 said:
cheers, good guitar straps are hard to find these days. The last one I bought was from gak I think and reasonable, but not as good as the one I'd had before it, which annoyingly I'd lost over the side of a boat in the dark. Long story, don't ask.
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Been trying to buy local this year like lots of people I guess and when I saw the collection of retro patterns on offer I had to have one. It feels really well made obviously needs some use to soften up but it is good out of the box and doesn’t feel like it is going to fall off!
 
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New pedal day. To help try and nail the tone of Tony Peluso.

I had been using a Soul Food pedal, which sounds good in it's own right I think, but not quite hairy enough, it being a boost pedal.

I read Tony used a big muff, not sure which one but this is the V2 Ram's Head re-issue, which seems to get quite favourable reviews amongst all the current EHX Big Muff reissue pedals.

I can already tell it's very close to the tone I am after, it's too late in the night to crank the amp but I think it's ticking the box. It seems to be a good one for Gilmour's tone also from the YT vids I've seen, which I hope to one day be able to play. Sustains forever!

But damn, it really highlights unwanted string noise to the max :D.. gotta work on that!

I am doing a lot of palm muting which helps, but can anyone recommend a video or technique to help mute strings with the left hand. I'm finding bends can be an issue where unwanted string noise is ringing out.
 
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I’ve never owned any pedals or amps (just modellers) but I noticed in the description of the Dave Price cover video of Goodbye To Love he says Tony Peluso used a fuzz box straight in to the mixer, so no amp...might be something to try...
 
One More Solo said:
This is the best bending/vibrato tutorial I’ve seen: https://youtu.be/vPFRpuhhWyE

Leading with your index finger to mute the string above is the trick - the video explains it better than me.
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Thanks! I will check it out :)

builder22 said:
I’ve never owned any pedals or amps (just modellers) but I noticed in the description of the Dave Price cover video of Goodbye To Love he says Tony Peluso used a fuzz box straight in to the mixer, so no amp...might be something to try...
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Thanks :)
 
Hi everyone,

I am looking to pick up playing the electic guitar. A long time ago I was given an old amplifier (Kustom KGA10...?) and an electric tuner that clips onto the neck of the guitar, as well as a lead, a strap and some pics. I'm trying to test out the amplifier by plugging in my phone and hifi using a 3.5mm to 1/4" adapter but it is very, very quiet and I can barely hear it at pretty much maximum phone and amp volume. Is this normal, i.e. a guitar would output a much higher volume of sound that a headphone jack? Or has the amp broken?

Secondly is it worth getting a starter pack of amp, guitar, bag, lead, strap etc for "peace of mind / east of use" that it is all new and working, or is it worth keeping my old stuff and spending more on the guitar?

Something like this...

https://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-a...ric-Guitar-HH-and-Amp-Pack-Natural-Flame/3JDK

Or keep my old stuff and get something like this...

https://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Yamaha-Pacifica-112-V-Yellow-Natural-Satin/846
 
It's actually the opposite - the signal from a guitar is very weak and the amp won't be expecting the higher signal from your phone. Some amps might have an Aux in which will, but the instrument input will be expecting the very weak passive signal from a guitar
 
yeah the plugs are all the way in - and it still sounds very very faint if I use the guitar lead itself (which I assume would also be mono as it only has one rubber ring thing on the connector) rather than adapters on my hi-fi although that is a stereo source.

The amp itself looks fine and the cone looks fine, and the input socket has been protected all these years by the 3.5mm adapter that has lived in it... surely there isn't too much that can go wrong with them!
 
They're pretty simple but like all electronics if they go unused for a long time they can run into problems (e.g. weakened or leaky capacitors or something)...

As to what you should do... I would say get the Pacifica - they are decent starter guitars. If the amp works then great! If it doesn't then you'll still be able to play the guitar unamplified until you get around to replacing the amp (and perhaps then you can also replace it with a better one). You want a guitar that is at least a reasonable quality or it will be uncomfortable and discouraging to play
 
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