Soldato
Decided it wasn't happening...?
You what. Of course the Scots got tired of the same old Conservative/Labour crap. We just now have another viable choice unlike England.
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Decided it wasn't happening...?
You what. Of course the Scots got tired of the same old Conservative/Labour crap. We just now have another viable choice unlike England.
Soldato
First time I've ever queued which bodes well for labour around here, if I'm correct in that assumption it's back to 3 labour mp's for my town even though there'll have been at least 30,000 tory voters spread over the 3 constituencies and tens of thousands of others, PR crying out for consideration.
I don't see the British people as one homogenous group. I feel as much in common as someone from Berlin or Copenhagen as I do someone from rural Northern Ireland. Each MP is putting their constituency first, just the same as a German MEP puts ther region first.
Right. Off to the polls I go where I'll be voting...
Tory
Last minute change of heart. The local paper swung me.
Labour candidate Kate Godfrey: "People feel what has been happening in our town over the past five years has been so unfair and nothing gets to people more than a sense of being treated unfairly. If it isn't the hospital, it's the university leaving, if not that it's the children's centres closing, if not that it's HS2. The Tories have given up on Stafford."
Now, I know our current MP fights hard for the hospital, improvements have been made and services are returning. I know he fought hard to keep the University (which is ultimately a private enterprise, Ms Godfrey couldn't have stopped it leaving either). And I know Labour won't stop HS2. Ultimately, she's fought her whole campaign on the four points from that quote and the only one that could change with her election is the closing of children's centres. I feel her campaign has been a negative one, with no on how to how to improve things going forward.
The current MP has worked hard for the town. He's been good at attracting investment, bringing businesses and jobs in to Stafford. He set up a charity in 2010 to help connect people with suitable employers and jobs. He has fought hard to save the hospital from closure and restore services gradually. I'm not about to vote against him on national sentiment alone, not when his closest rival candidate represents everything I despise about politics.
Tory
Last minute change of heart. The local paper swung me.
Labour candidate Kate Godfrey: "People feel what has been happening in our town over the past five years has been so unfair and nothing gets to people more than a sense of being treated unfairly. If it isn't the hospital, it's the university leaving, if not that it's the children's centres closing, if not that it's HS2. The Tories have given up on Stafford."
Now, I know our current MP fights hard for the hospital, improvements have been made and services are returning. I know he fought hard to keep the University (which is ultimately a private enterprise, Ms Godfrey couldn't have stopped it leaving either). And I know Labour won't stop HS2. Ultimately, she's fought her whole campaign on the four points from that quote and the only one that could change with her election is the closing of children's centres. I feel her campaign has been a negative one, with no on how to how to improve things going forward.
The current MP has worked hard for the town. He's been good at attracting investment, bringing businesses and jobs in to Stafford. He set up a charity in 2010 to help connect people with suitable employers and jobs. He has fought hard to save the hospital from closure and restore services gradually. I'm not about to vote against him on national sentiment alone, not when his closest rival candidate represents everything I despise about politics.
Man of Honour
I voted again for what I considered best for my 2 businesses and therefore best for my family & life.
Although Labour had something like a 9000 majority here in 2010 so I doubt it'll make much difference.
Still, blue is such a lovely colour.
Although Labour had something like a 9000 majority here in 2010 so I doubt it'll make much difference.
Still, blue is such a lovely colour.
Indeed, I would understand people voting Tory if it actually benefited them even if that is a selfish thing I.E. they were earning over about £80k, but the reality is that a large proportion of Tory voters get shafted by them as it's the party of the rich.
Associate
UKIP, can't avoid the fact that I agree with a lot of their policies - if I didn't vote for them and went Tory then it would only have been a tactical vote to stop the bloody reds.
Reduce foreign aid until we're in a much stronger (preferably defecit free!) position ourselves, Aussie style points system for immigration, no inheritance tax, kill the HS2 for now (we need to save up for stuff like that we're in no position for such luxuries!) - The list goes on, they have my vote!
Reduce foreign aid until we're in a much stronger (preferably defecit free!) position ourselves, Aussie style points system for immigration, no inheritance tax, kill the HS2 for now (we need to save up for stuff like that we're in no position for such luxuries!) - The list goes on, they have my vote!
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Very easy to come up with populist policies when you know you'll never need to actually put them into practice.
What would an Aussie style points system do except INCREASE migration? It's actually fairly difficult to emigrate to the UK if you are not an EU citizen, it's easier for a skilled person to emigrate to Australia than it is the UK.
Have a read yourself, here is how you can emigrate to the UK:
https://www.gov.uk/browse/visas-immigration/work-visas
As you can see, it's fairly difficult unless you meet one of the narrow criteria. There is even a little quiz which basically tells you to get lost unless you've got a work permit, family who live here, etc. What would be so great about an Australian points system?
You must know, otherwise you'd not have cited its introduction as a reason to vote for UKIP?
ubersonic using dodgy stats again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage
Average net income (including benefits) is EUR50k in Norway, compared to EUR36k in the UK. As of 2014.
If Google is wrong that's not my fault, if it is wrong, personally I trust Google's facts more than Wikipedias.
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Don
Been and voted, suprised how busy it was.
Also bit of an odd one (well new to me) - local ballot paper had 4 candidates (3 of which were conservative) and you were allowed to vote for up to 3.
Also bit of an odd one (well new to me) - local ballot paper had 4 candidates (3 of which were conservative) and you were allowed to vote for up to 3.
Soldato
Roll on tomorrow!! Hopefully we will get some solid results and then the country can get on with its business! I do hope that the Cons will get back in again.
Caporegime
Lib dem for local, Conservative for general?
Caporegime
Am I missing something here? We only had one ballot paper with a choice of 5
A lot of council seats are also up for re-election today, in which case voters get two ballot papers to vote on today. If you didn't then it's likely you had a local election two years ago.