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** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

After all the hype its not all that is it?

Very slightly faster than an overclocked 980TI but struggles to overclok its self.

Just looks like they've pushed it really hard on the core speed and the 2ghz plus cards will be as rare as hen's teeth,.
 
As i thought not as impressive as the hype was suggesting.
I swear people just invent expectations in order to make a 'disappointed' sort of complaint.

Expectations were varied. Some people said it wasn't going to be great. Many predicted it'd be just about exactly where it is(which you're conveniently ignoring). And then there were a minority of overzealous folks who ignorantly thought this was going to be some 4k/60fps at max settings cards.

So I dont really know where you're coming from.

It's a 320mm^ card that is 20-30% faster than a 980Ti overall and has clearly improved DX12 capability. Anybody who was expecting more than that was being silly and were likely stated as being so beforehand.
 
The kitguru video is not a stabilised temp as you can see it gradually moves upto 62C when the video is abruptly cut off. If they were honest they would have shown the temp after the benchmark had been running for at least 10 mins.



They are so deep in Nvidia's pockets that they try and pull the wool over people eyes.

I'm pretty sure it will start to throttle incrementally from about the 62c mark, certainly if it is anything like TitanX and the 980Ti. I imagine that to maintain the maximum boost clocks you would need to try and keep the temps at or around the 60c mark via a very aggressive (read very loud) fan profile.
 
I'm gonna wait for the price to go closer to £450-500, if it ever does. It's good performance compared to 2x 980 but not at a £630 price point.
 
I swear people just invent expectations in order to make a 'disappointed' sort of complaint.

Expectations were varied. Some people said it wasn't going to be great. Many predicted it'd be just about exactly where it is(which you're conveniently ignoring). And then there were a minority of overzealous folks who ignorantly thought this was going to be some 4k/60fps at max settings cards.

So I dont really know where you're coming from.

It's a 320mm^ card that is 20-30% faster than a 980Ti overall and has clearly improved DX12 capability. Anybody who was expecting more than that was being silly and were likely stated as being so beforehand.


How about reading all my post instead of taking a little choice quote and putting your own spin on it.
 
I've got a 290x and am looking to upgrade.

The 1080 certainty looks impressive, unfortunately at £619 it's a no go for me.

It's not that i can't afford £619, i can. It's that AIB will be out the following month and likely clocked higher with a better cooler and for less. So i'll purchase then.
 
So after my first reaction of god that's impressive, looking at the O/C'd results it doesn't seem to be the case.

People running high O/C's on their Ti's/TX's like me there doesn't appear to be 10% init bruv.

Below is the comparison of a TX with a "mild" O/C of 1367mhz:




...And the 1080 running 1959-2050mhz:




Another website shows the same thing, TX first:





I'm by no means an expert but how can a 1080 stock be 30% faster than a stock TX but only 10% faster at their max overclocks?
 
How about reading all my post instead of taking a little choice quote and putting your own spin on it.
I did not take anything you said out of context. I was commenting on the bit where you said the hype was suggesting it was going to be much better than it is. But I dont know what 'hype' you were talking about, as I certainly didn't see that many people thinking it was going to be any better.
 
People selling golden sample 980ti's off for under £400 (1550-1600mhz) for one of these :(

Selling something with limited info to go on always has its risks (think they are going by the 1070 rumors).

Hmm how is the GTX 1080 really only 20-40% faster than a stock GTX 980 ti? I mean it has got 10% less CUDA cores, but ~60% higher boost clocks with better, faster and more memory? :confused:
 
We are inevitably going to see price drops on 980 Tis, so with the performance being close, it might be better to just pick one of those up, or maybe even go SLI on it.
 
When you look at the overclocking and pricing, it certainly is not as impressive as what I originally thought when just looking at the game performance graphs and falls back to what I originally expected to happen with regards to a OC'd 980ti

If I where buying a gpu now, I would certainly be going for the second hand 980tis, especially if you can get one for <£400

I fully expect second hand 980ti prices to be going back up to >£400 now though!



Surely 2x970s is enough for us all low4pro players? ;) :D

If battlefront is anything to go by, I think BF 1 is going to perform extremely well.

I easily get 144 fps in BF4 in low for (wanabe)pro, and solid 135 with eye candy, BFHLs was more like 120 with eye candy and battlefront ~ 115. I'm expecting another drop for BF1, so I probably will upgrade.

But those prices... Need to see where the 1070 is at.
 
I did not take anything you said out of context. I was commenting on the bit where you said the hype was suggesting it was going to be much better than it is. But I dont know what 'hype' you were talking about, as I certainly didn't see that many people thinking it was going to be any better.

Well you must not read much if that's the case. I already said for 980 performance level it's a good upgrade but not for ti owners. Bit that's not the card it was intended to replace anyway.

With the nvidia demo onstage running at 2.1ghz and 67c it's obvious people thought it would have a lot of thermal headroom, obviously with the release of reviews this isn't the case.
 
Another quick thought, Nvidia might well just start releasing upgrade after upgrade every 6-12 months from now on and keep raising the prices.

How long was TitanX out before they basically killed it off with a 980ti? and now how long has the 980ti been out and they are just releasing a better version? how long before they milk us again with a 1080ti and a Titan?

Its a never ending cycle of marginal upgrades for extortionate prices lol

What do you mean might well start? This has been their business model for years lol.
 
I don't understand why so many people are freaking out about the price and OC potential. Did you even read the reviews? Overclocking is obviously limited by a poor reference cooler; why don't you take a pill and wait for custom cards before crying havoc.

Regarding price, we're obviously going to see decreases in the next couple of weeks when AiB cards start popping up.
There is no competition from AMD right now, at all. Nvidia can set any price they want and still sell their entire stock on launch. I don't expect having to pay more than ~£500 when I buy one in early September.
 
It looks like a good upgrade from my 970 that I sold, especially now I have a 1440p monitor, and I've saved up the £££ for a new GPU..

That said, I still won't be buying it if I can't get an AIB card for £550 or less. If it is more than that, I'll be looking at used 980Ti or 1070.
 
Well you must not read much if that's the case.
Again, I did not take anything you said out of context. I commented on the bit that I quoted. The bit specifically about saying the hype was suggesting it was going to be better than it turned out. I am contesting that there was not actually any hype that was suggesting it was going to be better. Most people were being entirely realistic about what it'd be capable of.

You saying that it's a good jump from a 980 is irrelevant to what I was talking about.

If you were talking purely about overclocking potential specifically(which you never stated), that is different.
 
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We are inevitably going to see price drops on 980 Tis, so with the performance being close, it might be better to just pick one of those up, or maybe even go SLI on it.

Said yesterday 980ti all the way best time to scoop up the ti's g1 msi ect seen them go for £300 mark get two of them in sli if peeps are into that is the best deal..

And even the seller may state its OC capabilities so no need to roll the dice ....
 
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