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** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

because its ******** as per usual - DM's link claims 2.0b only has 10gbps

http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_2_0/

hdmi 2.0b is the latest and greatest version, it supports everything that a does plus adds to it, not takes away stuff



reading the article DM posted in French, the chart has come from sony and is specific to their VPL-VW1100ES and VPL-VW500ES projectors - its also from 2013
its not referring to HDMI 2.0a and 2.0b (which are version numbering)... its referring to HDMI 2.0 (the first one from 2013) which then had a Level A and Level B in Sony's products, e.g. Sony's first products with HDMI 2.0 only supported 4:2:0 at 4K/60hz, but that's colour compression, nothing to do with HDR, the table doesn't even mention HDR, because its from 2013 when HDMI with HDR was not even a thing

lol it did seem strange that B was worse than A
would be nice if they could put it more plainly tho, like you can plug it str8 into the tv and get 60hz 4k with hdr...
anyway thx for clearing it up a bit :)
 
lol it did seem strange that B was worse than A
would be nice if they could put it more plainly tho, like you can plug it str8 into the tv and get 60hz 4k with hdr...
anyway thx for clearing it up a bit :)

You can, if the TV supports HDR then it'll have 2.0a or 2.0b, and the 1080 supports 2.0b which is the latest (18gbps) version
 
reading kitgurus facebook page they already have multiple board partner cards heading their way infact they have the Asus strix in their possession now, could that mean we get reviews on the 27th for these cards? I do hope so! with that being said we should have custom cards Very soon after the 27th! :D
 
From what I can tell HDMI 2.0b, which is what both Nvidia and AMD will support with the new gen, will only support HDR at 24fps @ 4k. HDMI 2.0a has about 80% more bandwidth and allows 60fps @ 4k, meaning HDMI is going to be relatively useless for gaming while DP port allows up to 120fps @ 4k still using HDR.

http://www.hdfever.fr/2013/11/14/tableau-comparatif-hdmi-1-4-vs-hdmi-2-0a-vs-hdmi-2-0b/ for a table of the differences. HDMI 1.4c can do HDR at 24fps @ 4k.

Gaming via HDR to a tv is going to be rubbish, gaming via HDR to a DP 1.3/1.4 screen will be where it's at. I'm wondering if the Shield has a specific HDMI 2.0a port because it is a pretty much exclusively tv device where as 99% of Pascal buyers won't game on a TV so it would be of less use there.

It really doesn't matter, the number of people buying ultra expensive HDR tvs and or PC monitors will be in the low 100s in the next year. I suspect this will once again be HDR screens arriving in that ridiculous £2000+ range for the first year till there are a few models and production ramps up.

Pretty much every part of this is wrong.

top kek

Even Maxwell 2 can already output 4k@60Hz YUV 4:4:4
 
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reading kitgurus facebook page they already have multiple board partner cards heading their way infact they have the Asus strix in their possession now, could that mean we get reviews on the 27th for these cards? I do hope so! with that being said we should have custom cards Very soon after the 27th! :D

I hope so, as I hate waiting lol but I will be steering clear of the FE card and Asus.
 
reading kitgurus facebook page they already have multiple board partner cards heading their way infact they have the Asus strix in their possession now, could that mean we get reviews on the 27th for these cards? I do hope so! with that being said we should have custom cards Very soon after the 27th! :D

I very much hope so :D.
 
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I think the custom cards are going to be good.

Anyway back to playing rocket league at lowest possible settings with vsync off, I have a sick bucket just in case.
 
I think the custom cards are going to be good.

Yup. Should be some good custom cards and I reckon with the extra power connector and a good twin/tri fan cooler we will hopefully see some tuned to 2ghz+ out of the box with zero throttling.

Hopefully hybrid/watercooled cards can get near 2.4/2.5ghz which would then reinstate the 30% performance increase over the TItan X/980TI that it has stock for stock.

The FE is just rubbish. Premium price for a not very premium product.
 
Yup. Should be some good custom cards and I reckon with the extra power connector and a good twin/tri fan cooler we will hopefully see some tuned to 2ghz+ out of the box with zero throttling.

Hopefully hybrid/watercooled cards can get near 2.4/2.5ghz which would then reinstate the 30% performance increase over the TItan X/980TI that it has stock for stock.

The FE is just rubbish. Premium price for a not very premium product.

Well that review stated 22% for a 2ghz GTX1080 against a 1.45ghz GTX980TI. So a 2.4ghz card would be probably more than 30% faster IMHO.
 
UK price is £619 for all the brand's FE 1080's. OCUK's price is £650 for the Asus one ;).

Actually seeing the average price is not £619 but £633.50-£635 around the well known internet retailers. Some don't even have a £619 starting price they start at £633.60 and up.
 
im currently debating the following setups

1x 1080, Possible to SLI later

2x 1070 Right away (should faster than 1080 if sli is used) be more, but less than 1080 SLI
 
im currently debating the following setups

1x 1080, Possible to SLI later

2x 1070 Right away (should faster than 1080 if sli is used) be more, but less than 1080 SLI

I was contemplating the same question, I am just concerned about how the SLI is supported and will be in the future :/
 
I was contemplating the same question, I am just concerned about how the SLI is supported and will be in the future :/

This is the dilemma I'm almost having as well.

Last time I bought a GPU I went with mid-range (280X) thinking I'd Crossfire later on to get a performance bump. When I got a bonus in work about 8 months later I went ahead and crossfired.

It was the worst mistake I've made with gaming in years. Crossfire is terribly supported. Best case scenario is typically what you get with The Division, doesn't work on launch but you get something 6-8 weeks after. Then if you're lucky you'll get 30-40% scaling.

Having no experience of SLI I don't know if it works any better for that. But if the custom 1080's come in at around £550 I'm going with one of them and not risking getting an 1070 and hoping I can SLI a year later.
 
This is the dilemma I'm almost having as well.

Last time I bought a GPU I went with mid-range (280X) thinking I'd Crossfire later on to get a performance bump. When I got a bonus in work about 8 months later I went ahead and crossfired.

It was the worst mistake I've made with gaming in years. Crossfire is terribly supported. Best case scenario is typically what you get with The Division, doesn't work on launch but you get something 6-8 weeks after. Then if you're lucky you'll get 30-40% scaling.

Having no experience of SLI I don't know if it works any better for that. But if the custom 1080's come in at around £550 I'm going with one of them and not risking getting an 1070 and hoping I can SLI a year later.

my experience
2x Nvidia 280
2x 570s
2x 7970
2x 7990s
2x 980s

in my experience SLI is much better than Xfire in
Quick Profiles on Day 1 or week 3. xfire sometimes takes weeks-months.
SLI scaling is generally good from 25-100% two examples Overwatch 99% Scaling & witcher 3 is a good 60-80%


Regarding the future Hopefully Game designers go with LDA multi GPU support in Directx 12 and nothing will change NV/AMD will still carry on doing profiles. Some designers like 3Dmark/Ashes that use MDA & have done well, but i trust AMSD/NV to do a better job than Developers.

Personally don't care about DX12. till 1180GTX or The AMD 590. Their wont be any decent games for a while & by then ill have upgraded or close to.

I care about
Witcher 3
Overwatch
Truck Sim


Most can be done on a 980 with ease, But i have 4K so any horse power that can help i want :D:D
 
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