Poll: The Official OcUK EU Referendum Exit poll (and results discussion thread)

[Casdawer]

immigration

hahahaha

You're foolish if you truly believe this.

 

[RoboCod]

Glad we fixed for 5 years, so still got 4 years for things to stabilise.

We fixed for 7 years with another 5 years to go. I'm glad I made that choice now.

 

[Tummy]

NHS staff should work for as much as they are given not a penny more, from a fixed budget. That's how public sector works. Those who don't agree, should work elsewhere.

Except the NHS would fold with that line of thinking.

I am sure you would be of the same opinion if a loved one needed life saving treatment and the surgeons had just clocked off, because they are just working their contracted hours.

 

[toshj]

But the Ratings agencies are a joke and without credibility.

Maybe in your eyes, but not in the markets... and they're the ones that'll be able to take advantage of this.

 

[joeyjojo]

Yes just when campaigning had started, so that's expected.

The true comparison would be back around mid 2015 as discussion on our EU membership had started, it was around 1.55 then. So yes it's taken a massive nosedive.

Indeed. Comparing 24 hours doesn't tell us much.

What happens next is things stabilise and grt back to normal.

Might be a dodgy few years till everything is negotiated but so what.

"Get back to normal" you say? Normal was UK in the EU. The new normal will not be as rosy, this is why the market shed £20+ billion today.

 

[toshj]

Meh, our debt actually got cheaper today.

Surely borrowing costs will go up?

 

[Christmas themed thank]

Good for you. The facts as he saw them no doubt.

Well let's have a discussion then shall we?

Is the EU run by unelected Eurocrats? No it is not.
Do we give £350 million a week to the EU? No we do not.
Are we a sovereign country? Yes we are.
We have no influence in the EU? Yes, we do.

What else would you like me to debunk for you?

 

[grudas]

immigration

 

[awaybreaktoday]

I have presented this question to at least a dozen Leavers tonight. None of them could answer it. They all cling to this vague hope that 'everything will be OK now.' Not a single one of them even shows any hint of appreciating the scale of the problem.

A lot of deprived areas that have voted leave are in for a rude awakening, so much EU funding has gone into these areas which a far right tory government will not continue to fund.

 

[SciNeT]

I am having great fun on Facebook today. Loving it.

I can't keep up with it all, it's a bloodbath, this place is fairly quiet but the tantrums emanating from some other boards can be seen from outer space. Tea spitting stuff!

 

[uncle_rufus]

I am sure you would be of the same opinion if a loved one needed life saving treatment and the surgeons had just clocked off, because they are just working their contracted hours.

I think many services might have solved this problem already with something called "shifts"... you see by overlapping the contracted hours of multiple staff it's possible to provide uninterrupted coverage where it would otherwise be impractical/impossible...

 

[Judgeneo]

Surely borrowing costs will go up?

Nah, the rates on our gilts actually went down. The UK is seen a safe bet to buy debt in when times are uncertain. Brexit has had a worse impact on the continent than in the UK, so money moves from there to here, and so our debt gets cheaper.

The credit rating agencies are a guide, but the market frequently contradicts them.

 

[sand_dune]

Except the NHS would fold with that line of thinking.

I am sure you would be of the same opinion if a loved one needed life saving treatment and the surgeons had just clocked off, because they are just working their contracted hours.

It's just like ANY other job. And don't start with the "loved ones". Am I supposed to wish someone die in hospital because they aren't the loved one. That's blackmailing people. In fact NHS staff cares about their patients hardly more than a trucker about their truck.

 

[stopper]

What about the 3 billion that needs to be paid to farmers to compete with rest of europe or farming will die in the UK

Do you mean the 3 billion paid to farmers to NOT use their farms so the EU can trade without any competition from us?
Farmers will now be able to properly trade once again, without the restrictions of the EU "no wonky foods" policy.

 

[Gun9]

Ex- Footballer Paul Gascoigne has arrived at Downing Street carrying a fishing rod, a bucket of chicken and 4 cans of lager.

 

[D3K]

Now, now. You shouldn't degrade yourself. I'm sure you are of some use to somebody!

I raise the point it was an obvious lie and you call me out as someone who believed it? You're an example of the case in point.

 

[fornowagain]

Where did you get that from. Article 50 will start this year and it will take a max of 2 years to finish.

Head of the EU wants it done before that.

Johnson said that he's in no hurry to trigger Article 50, it's never been used but exit can be delayed if agreed by the other members. They can push, but I guess they will wait to see if a few other country's start their own referendums to leave. Could put a lot of pressure on the EU commission.

 

[platypus]

The NHS bus, as I read it, was showing an example of what the money could be spent on instead. I didn't take it as definitive. I can see why it's an issue though.

And Liam Fox's campaign poster that I linked?

 

[sand_dune]

A lot of deprived areas that have voted leave are in for a rude awakening, so much EU funding has gone into these areas which a far right tory government will not continue to fund.

In UK I don't see anything getting any funding if not on commercial basis. There were no freebies, and there will be none, as you saying.

 

[Seanspeed]

Why slightly embarrassed? We've been an excellent example of democracy with a fantastic voter turnout to boot.

Because I fully believe that with the relatively slim margin of victory, that xenophobia and racism easily attributed to enough swing in the vote to get a win for the Leave campaign.