Poll: The Official OcUK EU Referendum Exit poll (and results discussion thread)

[Destination]

This may come as a bit of a shock to you, but those who come here with the sole intention of committing crime, e.g., the gangs of Romanian pick-pockets that infect certain areas, don't actually pay into the system.

They won't be leaving or going home either
Might come as a shock to some.
Neither will all the people of various non-EU nationalities, who I think will see the brunt of Nigel's next great crusade.

 

[Caged]

There were probably thousands of paedos, criminals, people traffickers, drug smugglers that voted Remain because the open borders makes life easier so what's your point?

I think the point was that as much as people might want to talk about democracy and sovereignty, it's not actually that difficult to find a dark anti-foreigner rhetoric running through the whole thing.

 

[do_ron_ron]

You know the EU are terrified now? There is a real risk now that the Greek banks will topple, spreading to the Portugal, Spain and the Italian based banks as well, dragging all the rest of them closer to the edge as well. Tens of millions of people could lose their jobs in the Eurozone. Do you think that strengthens the EU or has a massively destabilising effect?

This has been around for years. What is new? The situation just keeps on being kicked down the field in the hope that the world economy will pick up and solve the situation.

When German industry make calls to quickly agree a free trade deal with the UK then you can be pretty sure that's what'll happen and easiest and quickest way to make that happen is to keep the UK within the EU and agree special terms. We've always been treated as a special case because of our economic size - if Estonia or Greece or someone of that sort of size tried something similar they would told thanks and good bye.

There is a limit to the deals the EU can give to the UK. We have gone to the limit and now said goodbye. We are no longer in the club, we are just going to settle the legal issues. To try to

to keep the UK within the EU

would lead to a revolt in this country as the democratic wishes would have been ignored and the Tory Party would go into meltdown. Your premise may have been accurate if we had stayed in and negotiated something but we are out and cannot be treated as a special case. Not going to happen.

 

[Efour]

Another probably "older than the result picture according to duese" picture that makes me lol !

if you dont get it right away look closer

 

[Raymond Lin]

Why do I have to find any? If you are so bothered go look yourself. I don't even understand the point you are trying to make; it's just coming across as the arrogant youth bitching about the selfish and out of touch elderly.

Honestly, I had enough of that crap with Robocod earlier so just do yourself a favour and zip it.

If you want to argue that someone in their 70's knows better, it means life back then are better.

or are you suggesting life back then was worse and this 70 year old person want to go back to something worse?

If you can't produce evidence then you can't use the argument that people who are older automatically knows better.

 

[Caged]

Honestly, I had enough of that crap with Robocod earlier so just do yourself a favour and zip it.

It's a real shame that people are forced by law to engage in forum debates that they don't want to take part in.

 

[The Mad Rapper]

How? The abstract concept of 'Britain outside of the EU' isn't difficult to grasp. The world has changed so much in 50 years that the details will be vastly different. Our economy has changed beyond recognition, and globalisation has altered the game completely.

What are you babbling about? Globalisation started in the 50s, it's not a new thing. Technology has advanced but there is little else that is really new.

 

[McPhee]

Also the chart saying how people voted is nonsense cause polling is private, so smug remain don't know for sure old people voted leave, thats based on the pre-referendum polls.

Who is being smug?

All that's happened is people have called you out on your bull ****.

Frankly, I'm just as annoyed by the idiots pushing the "Young People/Scotland/Northern Ireland/Gibraltar have been robbed of their future" brigade. It's not healthy for the country. Your response seems like a knee jerk reaction to the suggestion that you've wronged others by voting as you wish. Fair enough. But you're just stooping to their level.

 

[The Mad Rapper]

It's a real shame that people are forced by law to engage in forum debates that they don't want to take part in.

I shouldn't have to repeat myself though should I? Why can't people just read the thread instead of posting the same stupid crap? Or demanding I defend a demographic I have nothing to do with for the fifth time?

Give me a break FFS. I am not a whipping boy for the disaffected Remain crowd.

 

[deuse]

They lived in a pre-EU UK in the 1970s. Their experience is as good as worthless when it comes to being informed about the vote.

Well you picked the wrong side

 

[Slackjaw190]

Not too sure who this guy is and if he knows what he's on about but it made me feel a little better.

Not too sure what were going to sell though

 

[Glaucus]

haha google 2nd top search from UK on eu, is what is the Eu,

good time to find out.

 

[Tosno]

Who is being smug?

All that's happened is people have called you out on your bull ****.

Remain.

Have they? I didn't see, please quote.

Plus you seem to agree with me...

 

[n111ck]

I think the point was that as much as people might want to talk about democracy and sovereignty, it's not actually that difficult to find a dark anti-foreigner rhetoric running through the whole thing.

You can say the same about both sides given millions of people voted.

I don't recall anyone disagreeing with the referendum beforehand.

 

[The Mad Rapper]

If you want to argue that someone in their 70's knows better, it means life back then are better.

Of course it doesn't. How on earth did you come to the conclusion? What an utterly bizarre connection to make.

 

[n111ck]

Remain.

Have they? I didn't see, please quote.

Plus you seem to agree with me...

You obviously weren't on here last night

 

[el_dazza]

A bit more respect for each other would be nice chaps, no need for the petty insults because someone thinks differently. Getting a bit out of hand now imo.

 

[Tosno]

You obviously weren't on here last night

Quotes.

 

[Caged]

Well you picked the wrong side

We all win or lose together unless you're planning on skipping the country or living in a bunker. I know you like your opportunity to gloat about the position we are in at the moment but it's not really relevant to the concept of whether someone who has been alive for a lot of years is inherently in a better position to make an informed decision about EU membership.

 

[Raymond Lin]

Hardly. The 70 year old lived in a pre-EU UK , so of course they'll have a better understanding.

Of course it doesn't. How on earth did you come to the conclusion? What an utterly bizarre connection to make.

Did you suffer memory loss in the last 10 minutes?

I'll give you a personal example.

My grandmother, bless her, detests the Japanese, she does not trust them, at all. Why? because she was under their occupation during WW2. (can't blame her for her views and can understand where it comes from). Do you think that thinking is relevant today? I personally love to go to Japan, see the culture and everyone I know tells me Japanese are the nicest people, so friendly and helpful.

Who do I trust?