Poll: The Official OcUK EU Referendum Exit poll (and results discussion thread)

How did you vote in the EU Referendum?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 861 53.0%

  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 763 47.0%
  • Total voters
    1,624
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I'm getting the idea that Boris & co. didn't actually expect to win this - they're probably scratching their heads thinking, "***, we actually have to do something now".

I honestly wouldn't care if they pretended the whole thing never happened now. Let's be grown up about it, it's such a ridiculously small margin for a win and has done nothing but cause division and make people act like complete ***** towards each other.

I'd love us to be an independent country but not at the expense of tearing the very fabric of our society to pieces, which seems to be exactly what's happening now. I spent an age consoling a friend yesterday who is massively upset because she now thinks a large proportion of 17 million people are massive ******* racists and want her out of the country.

Nice one media and smear campaigners. :rolleyes:

Articles like this are unhelpful IMO: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/24/intolerance-ethnic-minority-poles-uk
 
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platypus said:
The irony of a post bashing the younger generation for being "me me me" whilst posting in a selfish and me me me manner.

But is fine for the younger generation to bash those who didn't vote for what they WANTED.....

As for spelling, please take your guardianinsta attitude somewhere else. Of cousre i cna spall. Bit it realyl donest boheter me as to lexy yo ceajeck....
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Narj said:
I'm getting the idea that Boris & co. didn't actually expect to win this - they're probably scratching their heads thinking, "***, we actually have to do something now".

I honestly wouldn't care if they pretended the whole thing never happened now. Let's be grown up about it, it's such a ridiculously small margin for a win and has done nothing but cause division and make people act like complete ***** towards each other.

I'd love us to be an independent country but not at the expense of tearing the very fabric of our society to pieces, which seems to be exactly what's happening now. I spent an age consoling a friend yesterday who is massively upset because she now thinks 16 million people are massive ******* racists and want her out of the country.

Nice one media and smear campaigners. :rolleyes:
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Farage strikes me as having that face "oh **** we did it! So what the hell do I do now I can't just get away with reeling out sound bites??'
 
To realise that the EU has turned to German Hegemony

An association agreement with the UK, which will prevent any "imitators", is the secret of the Berlin plan for the next day in the EU, after the exit of Britain from the European family

In the earlier days, the directors of the German Finance Minister, Wolfgang Schaeuble, drew up a plan for the case of Britain leaving the EU entitled "The German strategy on Brexit». The text, which is published by the Handelsblatt newspaper, outlines how the German government will act against the British exit negotiations.

As in the plan, following the agreement with the EU They will be offered in Britain "constructive exit negotiations." The two-year transitional period is long enough. to become the coordinate process. "This gives the time and creates the basis for negotiations," as stated. "Then we seek a binding agreement regime with the United Kingdom." Britain will be that one, "associate partner".

According to the plan, however, is not intended to satisfy the London "very much", as it will not allow 'no automatic' to have 'access to the single - the EU internal market. " If you could enjoy in the future extended benefits without being member of the EU, this could be imitated, said the authors of the project.

The EU should "avoid a future regulation of relations, give the wrong impression." According to the document, the German government fears "mimicry trends" in France, Austria, Finland, the Netherlands and Hungary. "The extent of this phenomenon, and cascading effects will depend mainly on the manner, in which the UK." Will be handled

In short, "free choice" in relation to the single market can not be allowed in London. Also, as stated in the letter, Chancellor Merkel and Finance Minister Schaeuble fear that the European Commission, France and Italy could "take advantage of the need of the moment for further" consolidation ", a possibility which should be addressed "preventive".

In the German Finance Ministry believe that these voices would enhance the Eurosceptic forces in other countries - and in Germany itself.

always in accordance with the "secret plan Schaeuble" Berlin is ready to agree to a deepening of the eurozone, upon changing the European treaties in order to strengthen the control of financial and economic policy of countries - members. After Brexit However, Germany does not expect in any case that "there will be broad consensus on further deepening steps".
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translated from here using google. FYI Naftemporiki is a economic newspaper not "mainstream" like Sun etc.

http://www.naftemporiki.gr/finance/...blatt-to-mustiko-sxedio-soimple-gia-to-brexit
 
SPG said:
But is fine for the younger generation to bash those who didn't vote for what they WANTED.....
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No one said it was fine, did they? I was merely pointing out your hypocrisy. Everyone votes selfishly, of course.

The difference is of course is that the younger generation don't routinely vote to take things away from the older generations, whereas the older generations routinely take away the privileges they took for granted.

It's about time we voted against this "triple-lock" pension nonsense.
 
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I'm going to predict, that before any discussions take place, the already too small to successfully create working gov out of elected MPs separatist camp will tear itself into two camps in a fight for power between Gove and de Pfeffel Johnson...
 
You have a choice in life, and with most things you can whine about it or get on with it. Most of us, being human do both. Some of us are stronger than others who spend more time whining, but even those people eventually realise their attempts at constantly seeking others sympathy is wearing a little thin. Is it really necessary to state the obvious and point out that people need to pick themselves up and move on?
 
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v0n said:
I'm going to predict, that before any discussions take place, the already too small to successfully create working gov out of elected MPs separatist camp will tear itself into two camps in a fight for power between Gove and de Pfeffel Johnson...
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Which will be a mess anyway...
 
platypus said:
I'm talking about a wider context than the referendum. The older generation look out for themselves and have systematically taken away the privileges they took for granted from the younger generations.

That they have now voted to take away the right to travel and work freely in the EU is just another long line of rights they've removed from younger people.
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Agreed. Yet again pulling up the ladder.
 
Jono8 said:
Wow. You really think we have all the benefits of being in europe without the drawbacks. Amazing and worrying.
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To be fair you know no more than the rest of us. Do we know what the British government will do in detail, what the EU will do? There are negotiations to be done and by virtue of that no one knows the final result.

Remainers need to stop worrying and offering up only extreme examples of disaster and doom and gloom. What happened to the British resolve and stiff upper lip.

I have faith in my country and our people to work through the change and come out better for it on the other side. After all we survived much worse in the past and no one is complaining about how we succeeded every time.
 
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