Poll: The Official OcUK EU Referendum Exit poll (and results discussion thread)

[jonneymendoza]

Are racist people even allowed to be part of this forum?

 

[scorza]

http://www.sauravdutt.com/blog/brexit

Seen this doing the rounds on twitter. Apologies if it's been posted before. I particularly liked this bit:

The pattern of voting is clear: it is about winners and losers, and the losers of the last thirty years have voted to leave.

The disaster of the left in this is its failure to articulate this and instead collapsing into the ruling class' remain campaign. The right have had a completely free hand to make it all about thier chosen themes: immigration, immigration and immigration.

There was no mainstream voice to express the many issuess millions of working class people have with the EU and the status quo.

The status quo that has accelerated the decline of real wages for the working class are terrified of Brexit because it means democracy might just influence the way the U.K. is run.

Brexit is a vote for optimism in the ingenuity and resilience of the British and about rebuilding participatory democracy.

 

[Angerer]

Done

 

[Spacedeck]

What's with the personnel insults guys? Thought we was grown men.

 

[mburn_83]

No its owned by the united kingdom. They wish to leave the united kingdom, and steal the silver while they are at it? The assets have a value, yes scotland has paid into the club but they are heavily subsidsed by the rest of the UK. There WILL be a bill.

Yet if Scotland were such a burden - I am sure England will be happy to see us go?

The truth is 2 million Scots were lied to and voted no - hilariously EU membership being one of the main points

Scotland leaving is best for all concerned - and England will no longer have to pay our way

 

[balky12]

I'm also calling you a bigot. Going by the garbage you constantly post you seem to have some sort of fear the brown people are going to invade us.

Please link me to where I say 'brown people'.

 

[Roar87]

And the answer is to vote out of the EU. The EU who... Pushed for stronger banking (short selling, bonuses, CFD's, etc) regulations - against the UK protests

And we've just voted out of all those regulations. The City is going to be very happy in a few years when they can pull another 2008 trick.

Except this time we won't have a strong EU to help ride through it

But yea, lets stick one to the "elite" and London.

The EU was trying to implement a tax on London, they wanted to curb bankers bonuses, they would've done if they could. But now we're digressing. The only thing that'll happen in a couple of years is the collapse of the Euro zone and we'll be happy we're not in it at that point.

 

[andicole0]

With all due respect, all the negatives you posted above are conjecture at this stage.. some may come to effect, some may not come to effect. However there will be positives in the other direction.

Glass half full / glass half empty comes to mind.

They are more than conjecture they are actually happening. When will some positives be discussed then?
Andi.

 

[Hotwired]

Like someone said on the news this morning if we moan and complain then we will fail, but be positive and constructive we have the chance for something great.

You do realise that the moaning and complaining got the referendum and then got the result of the referendum.

If people were being positive and constructive it wouldn't have happened

Being negative and divisive got us here.

And now it's given us the position of making everyone who was happy with the status quo negative.

Maybe you should have been flying the positive and constructive banner some time ago.

 

[toshj]

I know. A lot of the banks with headquarters in London and large investment branches in London were responsible and made money buying those sub-prime so called "AAA" US Mortgages. They knew that they'd get bailed out and didn't care. The bankers in London made loads of money, they're still now making loads of money, how many of them struggled to pay their Mortgage during the crisis? Not many I bet, they might've had to buy a few less luxury cars that year

The credit departments of banks caused the financial crash. At the time the credit divisions comprised roughly 11% of banking staff - so 89% of bankers had nothing to do with the credit crisis. Credit divisions were split loosely into cash credit, credit derivatives and structured credit - structured credit was the primary cause of the crash. Of those working within structured credit, only the more senior individuals had any actual investment authority - most at Analyst, Associate and VP level were just following orders.

So the actual number London bankers that you'd like to blame were probably roughly .1%-.3% of the actual banking population in London. Thousands and thousands of the other 99.7% to 99.9% of bankers not involved in the investment activity of structured credit operations were made redundant. London as a city had nothing to do with this.

Subsequently the EU voted in a bankers' bonus cap. Your Leave vote will very likely have just removed the bonus cap, therefore very likely ratcheting up pay in that sector. Well done you.

 

[Skunkworks]

Just to confirm, do I have to take Rammstein off my iPod now?

 

[Semple]

Ohhhh so this isn't a personal thing? This is something that has happened to everyone in our generation (I am guessing we are roughly the same age possibly? I'm 27). We have all been turned over by our parents and grandparents?

Funny. I don't see everyone else moaning that they have had this ladder pulled from them.

I certainly don't feel any resentment against the older generations.

Maybe you should focus on yourself, stop blaming the older generations.

Maybe you should just go and enjoy life?

Are you funded by exceptionally wealthy parents?

As someone of the same age, i'm amazed how someone can be so "opposite".

Thankfully both me and my partner earn good wages and will soon be looking to buy a house. So this recession we're about to plough through, i'm hoping won't have too much of a massive impact on us.

However i know plenty of people our age who struggled financially through the last recession and have now built up a lot of debt, which they were just starting to turn around. Now we're ready to dip back into recession and these poor sods are about to get royally shafted yet again! I mean give these people a break!

 

[Nitefly]

Oh dear, this thread suddenly descended!

As I mentioned earlier, in due course all the leave voters could and should be damn smug and I will be grateful.... Provided that position is better than pre-referendum.

The facts are so far that as a result of this news our economy has taken a huge plunge. Look at the rate of the pound and the FTS250. I seriously doubt that will be corrected next week or anytime soon. If it is I'll eat my hat.

 

[SciNeT]

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215.json

{"name":"United Kingdom","code":"GB","signature_count":353988}

Only 350,000 signatures from the UK..

Losers blown out again and again and again.

 

[soundb0y]

Since the price of oil collapsed can anyone tell me what Scotland would actually have to offer to in an EU application?

Im assuming they wouldn't be able to stay in with anything like the same terms and would have to leave and make a new application?

Would they be accepted or vetoed?

 

[stewski]

I wasn't happy with the result of last nights EuroMillions draw, because I didn't win. So I think I'll demand a redraw of the numbers until I get the result I want.

They'll let you buy another ticket

 

[balky12]

Are you funded by exceptionally wealthy parents?

As someone of the same age, i'm amazed how someone can be so "opposite".

Thankfully both me and my partner earn good wages and will soon be looking to buy a house. So this recession we're about to plough through, i'm hoping won't have too much of a massive impact on us.

However i know plenty of people our age who struggled financially through the last recession and have now built up a lot of debt, which they were just starting to turn around. Now we're ready to dip back into recession and these poor sods are about to get royally shafted yet again! I mean give these people a break!

No I am not funded by exceptionally wealthy parents. We live in the South East and ok parents have benefited from property prices but the vast majority of their 'wealth' is tied up in their house that they have lived in for 20 odd years.

I am 27 and been working since I left college at 18. Me and my partner both doing fairly well in our respective careers and have a house also in the South East.

I am not against the EU as such. I was against it's direction and what it was morphing into.

The reasons I voted leave are numerous. I did summarize it earlier.

'I voted out but leaving the EU was a 'shame'. As a trade bloc it was a magnificent thing. It evolved into the monstrosity it is now. Probably due to fear it was losing it's place on the world stage with China, Brazil, India all up and coming. I feared a remain vote would eventually lead to deeper integration. Not something that was attractive given the state of things in Southern Europe and this discontent everywhere.' I have also stated that I feel the referendum is a means to and end.

Hang on, why did you ask about my parents?

 

[arctine]

This stereotyping from both sides is very immature. Defining someone on how they voted is childish and probably a good representation of how ridiculous the majority of voters really are.

Grow up.

 

[Raymond Lin]

Oh dear, this thread suddenly descended!

As I mentioned earlier, in due course all the leave voters could and should be damn smug and I will be grateful.... Provided that position is better than pre-referendum.

If they could give me a shred of evidence that we would be better off then I'll be happier.

Besides "we'll be great again" rubbish again and again. I can't exactly pay my mortgage on national pride sentiment.

 

[Semple]

Oh dear, this thread suddenly descended!

As I mentioned earlier, in due course all the leave voters could and should be damn smug and I will be grateful.... Provided that position is better than pre-referendum.

The facts are so far that as a result of this news our economy has taken a huge plunge. Look at the rate of the pound and the FTS250. I seriously doubt that will be corrected next week or anytime soon. If it is I'll eat my hat.

Yep i can agree with that too.

I just can't see it happening, and i don't think half of the people realise the consequences of what's on the horizon.