Poll: The Official OcUK EU Referendum Exit poll (and results discussion thread)

How did you vote in the EU Referendum?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 861 53.0%

  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 763 47.0%
  • Total voters
    1,624
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Mr C said:
I stayed well out of the whole debate simply because I believe that the entire referendum took the wrong tone. I also couldn't truly support remain due to their exaggerations and scare tactics even though I believe the idea to leave was insane.

What I find from this is a slight irony. I believe if (and it is a big IF) the EU sticks together and the other countries declaring referendums have them and vote to remain. The stability within the EU is likely to allow them to grow at a greater rate than the UK which is likely to see a period of 6-10 years of uncertainty based on the length of time of negotiations to leave the EU takes.

This in turn could see the £ end up being equal in value to the €. At this point after a brief period on the new deal out of the EU we could easily see a new government pledging to rejoin the EU and convert to the Euro and possibly even Shengen.

This Brexit in the long run could be what brings the UK further into Europe than ever before.

We are in a period of great unknown and uncertainty whatever happens from now is almost impossible to predict.
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Good point. We actually had it very good in comparison to other members in relation to our membership in the EU.

Can't believe we have thrown it away to be honest.
 
You know what my main concern is.. and that it's been stated the PM "does not need to write the letter that invokes art. 50..
Or in other words, after a lot of paper shuffling and blowing smoke up everyones arse, we'll end up not leaving but instead signing a new " agreement/treaty" where the EU promises to reform (but it wont)
 
Hikari Kisugi said:
As long as they don't negotiate something 'exactly' the same, or worse. And they might.
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They certainly could, but then at least you can punish them at the next election. Oh wait...unless both sides support it, damn ;)

Chuk_Chuk said:
Where does that data come from? All I see is SKY news posting a bunch of numbers.
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Ashcroft I believe, could be wrong.
 
Regarding the outcome...

I don't understand the point of continued argument. Democracy, however unpalatable it may be has chosen. It is time to accept the decision and work the new reality. Anything else is simply wasted breath and energy.
 
Mulder said:
12,369 sample according to the website, and it was online so you'd hope Ashcroft tried to make it as representative as possible. My understanding (which may not be correct) is that it's a fairly respected polling firm.

My bigger point is that it's a convenient line for the more sour remain supporters (not including you or most people on here in that) to now wheel out, when in reality it was just one of many factors for a lot of people (it actually isn't really an issue for me). The biggest reason for most (I would say, and according to the Ashcroft survey) is democracy, self-governance and self-determination.

As for your question of whether it tipped the balance, I guess we'll never know. But you can certainly apply that point to both sides, i.e. how many remain votes were based on the completely fabricated economic doomsday scenarios presented by HM Ministry of Propaganda, etc.
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I have a few more common pet peeves from Twitter, lol:D, it's painfully ironic and full of recrimination at the moment:

  • Labour supporters were lazy (they weren't)
  • The SNP didn't do their job (they did, and quite admirably so by returning Remain for the campaign in their neck of the woods on a decent turnout)
  • Blame it all on Cameron (surely Osborne's last punishment budget was more of a problem for those who thought experts were just out to get them?)
  • Thought it didn't matter (facepalm, either Remain or Leave on such grounds is just too much to bear)
  • People voted expecting a second referendum / no exit / more negotiations either way
  • Blame it all on Corbyn (he was lukewarm, but again not the chief or sole reason)
  • Polls lied to me before, so I stayed home (ffs, lol)
  • They just don't like the establishment (you can talk for hours what that really means, and how it doesn't eliminate the current perceptions of levels of immigration and its impact as well as general nuttery to do with it)
  • They lied! (we told you to take some salt with it, esp re 350m figure, people; not much can be done about it during the campaign legally (as I mentioned in Speaker's Corner) or now that the result is here)
  • You all lied, I turned up and voted randomly, but wanted to stay (erm, yeah, great -- thanks for that bro)
  • Sun did it (again, it's not as powerful as people think, though drivel was plentiful from it; arguably the Mail was even worse)

And that's without the insults, racism, trolling and insinuations of conspiracy on both ends re activists. :\ I just left the world to it, really. Until the next GE, I plan to live in a bunker, play games and pursue personal career and academic ambitions. If Leave doesn't deliver, they'll rightly have to square up with the public. Boris's 'I'm Sorry' video would smash Clegg's YouTube record! :D
 
doofer said:
Let's.

Let us.

Offer a choice.

We can if we decide to.

We can decide what to do with our own money.

We don't have to do what others tell us to do with our own money.

Do you get it now?
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That is some incredible twisting to interpret that poster in a way that doesn't show it to be a complete lie.
 
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