*** The Official Playstation 4 (PS4) Thread ***

Where is everybody pre ordering? I would have thought that places like shopto now have more pre orders than they will have stock allocated, so where else is a good bet? I've never pre ordered a console before, but I think not doing so this time would be a bad idea. Probably won't be able to pick one up off the shelf until way after Christmas.
 
Where is everybody pre ordering? I would have thought that places like shopto now have more pre orders than they will have stock allocated, so where else is a good bet? I've never pre ordered a console before, but I think not doing so this time would be a bad idea. Probably won't be able to pick one up off the shelf until way after Christmas.

I've gone with Amazon. They've consistently been the best company I've used for online purchases over the years, hoping they'll enough stock come release.
 
It is just a shame that PS4 will be the first Playstation to not have a wipeout game..!! Now that is sad.

This x 1 million. For some reason, I still list wipeout as one of my all time favourite games ever, never seem to grow tired of it as there is always something that could be done slightly better.
Im sitting on the fence though, I have a pre-order for both the PS4 and the XBONE, will wait until after E3 before deciding which way I want to go...
 
I was on the fence a little with xbox one and PS4. When I first heard the PS4 announcement I was left a bit let down as I’d not really seen anything but heard the specs and seen the controller. I just thought, yeah they say that now, but bet it changes as they haven’t even got a box to show.

Then the xbox one was announced. It looked more complete. But now, MS have confused everyone with game ownership, what they will snoop on with, tv watching habits, is it a games console, an entertainment system, then the whole kinect voice system which looks impressive but I’d never use it.

It seems Sony has the more complete package to me now both sides have released their specs.

I’m no 99% sure I’m going PS4 route. Xbox one is impressive tech, but I’d not use half its features, and I know Naughty Dog and other Sony funded studios will produce games I’d want. MS has Forza but other then this, nothing else at this time or even launch date.
 
I think it'll arrive for £350-£400. We may see a premium unit that contains a larger HDD that takes the price above £400, but I don't think Sony will do that, they'll keep it below the 400 point.

I'm glad I put a £20 pre-order down with GAME on day one, I should be guaranteed a unit. Unless the company goes under or something...
 
Where should I place my pre-order to give me the best chance of getting one at launch?

I'm also totally gutted at the loss of Wipeout from PS4, One of my favorite franchises ever :(
 
Think im going to wait till after launch to get 1, will depend if i have enough money saved up and what release titles and their pricing. But ill probaly go to some store which gives additional warranty, as ive had sony consoles that have died a few weeks after the 1 year warranty ran out.
 
Is the PS4 going to be backwards compatible with PS3 games anyone?

No in terms of existing physical PS3 discs and PSN downloads, the PS4 architecture is too different.

People are waiting to see if their streaming games service Gaikai can deliver older games though.
 
That's a shame. A lot of good titles on the PS3 meant it would have been nice to keep them and pre-order a PS4 now. I'd rather wait out for a while instead now, not really intending on having several consoles sat under the tv.
 
That's a shame. A lot of good titles on the PS3 meant it would have been nice to keep them and pre-order a PS4 now. I'd rather wait out for a while instead now, not really intending on having several consoles sat under the tv.

do people actually replay older titles?

once i have finished a game it gets sold on, no matter how good it was, before i used to hoard games, and then they just sat there collecting dust, and by the time i cleared them out, i usually only got a few quid at best for them, this way i usually get decent money back on them.
 
do people actually replay older titles?

once i have finished a game it gets sold on, no matter how good it was, before i used to hoard games, and then they just sat there collecting dust, and by the time i cleared them out, i usually only got a few quid at best for them, this way i usually get decent money back on them.

I have a handful of games I'd never sell for love nor money, final fantasies, breath of fires etc. Maybe it's a weird bond to the games as I played them whilst I was in my teens etc. :D But for newer games I totally have the same mentality, once it's finished it's out of the door. So maybe people just enjoy older games in their own unique way.
 
There's also the case of the people who never owned a PS3, and might want to play one or two PS3 titles on their PS4.

Personally I'm hoping to play MGS4 over this Gaikai service.

again i would expect this to be an extreme minority. everyone buying the ps4 will be buying it to play ps4 games.

i always thought BC should be included but now i think there is no reason to do so simply because i have never used it on a regular enough basis.

i think i may of played a handful of ps1 games on the ps2, but they were great classics (driver, destruction derby, gran turismo, etc). the ps3 on the other hand, i dont think i played any or 1 or 2 at max (i had a BC launch console).

also surely this Gakai service will have limitations on actual image quality, lagg, etc if it is going to be streamed to you. I am not so keen on it, would rather they just focused on the PS4 side of things tbh. If people really want to play ps3 games buy a ps3, they can be picked up for practically nothing these days.

Again people will complain they do not want 2 consoles, but again they are a minority who want BC therefore they have to like it or lump it. No point on compromising something in order to please a minority. I mean the funds, technology and staff working on Gakai could have been devoted to another use making the PS4 experience better rather than BC, or simply not needed making the console cheaper to buy in the first place.

I would have rather they went down that route personally. But I think they have went down this route to be innovative, we will need to wait til the PS5 to see if such a service is also included on that to see if they actually think it's worthwhile including such a service, imo it isn't.

Look at it this way, what if someone wants to play PS2 games? or PS1 games? they need to buy a PS2 to do so, so I don't see what the big fuss is on BC, people don't tend to play last gen games when they have bought a new gen console. Only people who dont have a new gen console tend to play last gen games.
 
Can't agree with you there. Services like Gaikai have a real bright future. Sony quite rightly want to be ahead of the game.

Besides, the development of the PS4 is mostly done now, and Gaikai is in the hands of a completely different team.

In fact Gaikai was acquired by Sony quite recently, as an almost fully developed product. Sony have not 'diverted resources' from the PS4 to implement Gaikai.
 
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also surely this Gakai service will have limitations on actual image quality, lagg, etc if it is going to be streamed to you. I am not so keen on it, would rather they just focused on the PS4 side of things tbh. If people really want to play ps3 games buy a ps3, they can be picked up for practically nothing these days.

Again people will complain they do not want 2 consoles, but again they are a minority who want BC therefore they have to like it or lump it. No point on compromising something in order to please a minority. I mean the funds, technology and staff working on Gakai could have been devoted to another use making the PS4 experience better rather than BC, or simply not needed making the console cheaper to buy in the first place.

I would have rather they went down that route personally. But I think they have went down this route to be innovative, we will need to wait til the PS5 to see if such a service is also included on that to see if they actually think it's worthwhile including such a service, imo it isn't.
You always struck me as a fellow who is under the impression that your own narrow-minded viewpoint is an acceptable generalisation for one and all. Trust me in the vast amount of cases, it isnt...

Gaikai was never about backwards compatibility/playing old games before Sony bought it as an ongoing investment, an investment thats nothing to do whatsoever with the PS4s R&D costs. In essence BC is just another string to Gaikais bow, but the PS brand isnt just what Gaikai is only about IMHO.

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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I don't know if this old news but it seems like Sony won't be implementing DRM against use of 2nd hand games.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/It-Official-PS4-Feature-Used-Game-DRM-Like-Xbox-One-56264.html

http://tech2.in.com/news/console/so...4-will-not-have-drm-against-used-games/875088

Sony has made it official that it won't be implementing any sort of DRM in the PlayStation 4 to stop the use of used-games The confirmation comes in the form of Sony retroactively having answered the question of used-game DRM. Kotaku had decided to contact Sony directly about the question, and the Sony representative pointed Kotaku towards a statement made by Sony studio chief Shuhei Yoshida back in February.

According to Yoshida, "At a roundtable this morning, Sony's game studios chief, Shuhei Yoshida, told reporters that any requirement for users to register a game online in order to play it would be left to game publishers. Sony won't require that."
 
I'm not bothered about BC. I think, at launch. people have a bit of fear on the unknown in terms of what games there will be etc. but a year down the line, not many people would be playing a mix of PS3/PS4 games on a PS4. It reminds me of removable batteries on phones. Most people seem to list it as something they want but sales of replacement batteries are almost non-existant. It's just easier to say yes they want it than no they don't.

I'm looking forward to starting afresh. I'm hoping to be selective in what games I buy and play them to death, getting most/all trophies etc and play nothing else untill I have. I played Sleeping Dogs that way on the PS3 and I loved it. I have too many OK games that I bought because I had half an interest in them and they were £6.99. PS4 games will probably be £40-50 for a good while and I'd only buy one if I'd finished the game I'd been playing and I was planning on starting the new one right away.
 

Hopefully it will be just an online pass like we have now.

Also it's a good move for Sony, it takes the heat off them and puts the heat on publishers if they choose to go with some form of DRM.
 
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