**** The Official Samsung Galaxy S7/Edge Thread ****

Welp, since I just did a factory rest ...

What apps do you guys that are/aren't the stock Samsung ones? I love the browser others just seem OK.

The Samsung email app does seem to handle my works exchange server rather well mind.
 
The HTC 10 just wasn't doing it for me. The final straw was that the latest software update made the battery life worse despite performing a hard reset. So I've ordered the S7E. I can't wait to have a go on the device after seeing all the rave reviews and videos on YouTube.
 
The HTC 10 just wasn't doing it for me. The final straw was that the latest software update made the battery life worse despite performing a hard reset. So I've ordered the S7E. I can't wait to have a go on the device after seeing all the rave reviews and videos on YouTube.

The battery life is amazing coupled with QC 2.
 
How so mate?

Don't get me wrong Dude. The HTC is a superb device and is possibly their best phone since the M7. The software is very stock like and it's fast and fluid, however it's very workman like in how it performs. It doesn't have that special feeling when you're using the device. It does everything well however I think that's where the problem lies therein - I found the experience very boring.

I'm not a massive fan of TW and it's possibly my least favourite Android skin however I bought a Galaxy Tab S2 very recently to replace my aging Sony Z3 compact Tablet and it got the MM update just a few days ago and I was extremely surprised how it ran. I actually enjoyed using the device and the things that you could do with TW you just couldn't do with Sense.

For example highlight and copy a selection of words and copy it into the clipboard and use the dictionary to find out the meaning of a certain word. That I found very useful...Sure i'm not going to use it everyday but it's nice to know it's there.

I also like the pop up video player and the codecs that are built into the app which meant that you didn't have to download another media player such a BS player. I found that very helpful as I had a load of mkv files that the HTC 10 wouldn't play out of the box.

Battery life prior to the new update the HTC 10 did well but on some days it would run out of juice even with the same usage pattern, that would happen infrequently but with the new update it has been happening a fair amount. So much so that I have been taking my quick charger to work. Battery life is the most important feature to me and it's something I take very seriously. I work long hours and I need a phone that would last me the day and I don't have to shut down features just to keep the phone alive. I didn't have to worry about that with the HTC 10 but then that changed with this update.

I've also come to realise that I prefer AMOLED over LCD which totally threw me as I've long been a fan of LCD tech.

Lastly I've been taking a fair amount of pictures and videos recently both at night and day and 7-8 times out of 10 the HTC 10 does really well but occasionally it misfires, particularly when making videos as it tends to lose focus and you have to manually focus on the object again which became tedious. I just wanted a camera that you can take a shot and not worry about the outcome of the picture.

The ease at which my Tab S2 would connect to my Samsung smart TV also is a bonus.

The HTC 10 is a very good phone and it will tick the boxes for a lot of people but something just didn't gel with me.
 
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The battery life is amazing coupled with QC 2.

That sound's epic! I need to have a catch up with QC 2 chargers and other accessories. It's going to be a long read! ;)

Cheers stoosh. Let us know how you get on with the S7E. Battery life is a monster on that.

I will do Mate for sure. Glad to hear that the battery life is a monster. I defo can't wait to get my hands on the device.

MPD have processed the order and it's waiting to be despatched. It should be with me in the next few days so I will let you know how I get on with the device.

One thing I will miss on the HTC 10 is the audio playback - absolutely amazing. If the S7E is even half as decent I will be fine with that.
 
Lucky for you QC2.0 chargers are dirt cheap now. I've reviewed a couple, they all do teh same thing at the same quality with very little variance in current or voltage, so go for an Aukey and live life knowing it's going to fast charge nicely. Samsung wireless fast chargers are also £30 odd now on Amazon. It's a good time to get one of these as the initial hiked prices have all settled.

I thought the Note 7 was going to have a dual camera setup for 3D videos and photos, but looks like it will not, so the desire for a new toy went from 80% based on that technology to 0% in one swoop :p S7E will live on for as long as it can.
 
new S7's turned up today, loving it so far but the fingerprint scanner seems a little off compared to the s5 but just got to get used to it and not impressed they removed IR from it :( I used that more than anything!

Other than that, running fast and smooth at the moment. About to try the VR on it.

Any suggestions?

As its an upgrade with a new Sim card but same number, anyone know how long it takes for the new sim to kick in? Still can't make a call and it's been 2 hours!
 
Lucky for you QC2.0 chargers are dirt cheap now. I've reviewed a couple, they all do teh same thing at the same quality with very little variance in current or voltage, so go for an Aukey and live life knowing it's going to fast charge nicely. Samsung wireless fast chargers are also £30 odd now on Amazon. It's a good time to get one of these as the initial hiked prices have all settled.

I thought the Note 7 was going to have a dual camera setup for 3D videos and photos, but looks like it will not, so the desire for a new toy went from 80% based on that technology to 0% in one swoop :p S7E will live on for as long as it can.

That's good to hear Robbie. Did you review them on your blog? If so do you mind posting the link so I can have a read. I was going to go for an Aukey as you can't beat them for quality. Although the Samsung wireless fast chargers do sound tempting...

With regards to the Note 7 your new toy itch has dissipated ;)

I know a few people who have the S7E and are fine to run the device for some considerable time so you haven't made a bad choice there.
 
Does anybody know if there is a way to completely disable safe mode on the s7 edge?

My girlfriend dropped her s7 edge earlier and the volume down rocker key took the impact. It is now dented and jammed in so the phone is thinking the volume down key is being held down. When booting up the phone, it is making it enter safe mode and its making her not be able to use any apps or do anything other than phone calls and texts.

I've looked through settings and developer options etc but as far as I can tell you can't disable it and it automatically enters it when switching it on because volume down is jammed.

She's getting it repaired soon but really needs to be able to use it in the mean time if possible.

I'm guessing there's no hope but if anybody knows of anything I would appreciate it. Cheers.
 
That's good to hear Robbie. Did you review them on your blog? If so do you mind posting the link so I can have a read. I was going to go for an Aukey as you can't beat them for quality. Although the Samsung wireless fast chargers do sound tempting...

With regards to the Note 7 your new toy itch has dissipated ;)

I know a few people who have the S7E and are fine to run the device for some considerable time so you haven't made a bad choice there.

http://www.neowin.net/news/xtorm-12000mah-compact-usb-c-power-bank-review
http://www.neowin.net/news/tronsmart-titan-5xusb-quick-charge-20-charger-review

Although those are quite expensive, or were, not sure about now! Aukey/Anker have options that do the same job too of course for less.

As for the wireless charger

http://www.neowin.net/news/samsung-fast-charge-wireless-charging-stand-review

In regards to what I want from the next phone, well it's all down to camera and battery enhancements now really. the rest of the hardware is nigh on perfect really. I thought the Note 7 might have had a bigger battery and rumours hinted at 3D/dual camera on the back. Looks like same battery as the S7E but on a new SoC. So perhaps it will last longer on a charge who knows.

S7 stays :cool:
 

Part 2 months later, If anyone still cares.
Summary, not all praises.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10196/the-samsung-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-review-part-2/
Final Words

The Galaxy S7 in a lot of ways represents the sort of end game for the smartphone market, but before we get into these kinds of overarching discussions I want to recap everything we’ve learned about the Galaxy S7 before we get into the conclusion in earnest, which includes part 1 of this review.

We can start with design, where the Galaxy S7 shows quite a bit of resemblance to the Galaxy S6, with clear influence from the Galaxy Note5. Ergonomically the Galaxy S7 is just a step up. The Galaxy S7 edge is really more of the same as well, and I still have the same complaints about how the edge display affects ergonomics in a way that it doesn’t on the Galaxy S7, but both are okay. The one major note I have here since part 1 of the review is that screen protectors other than wet-applied TPU types are not really going to work properly on either the Galaxy S7 or S7 edge as the curve in the glass for both begins before the end of the display, so anything that is flat won’t cover the entire screen the way you might expect for the HTC 10 or iPhone 6s. The design doesn’t really blow me away, but it’s decent for its time.

The next notable area is battery life. While I’ve seen a lot of people rave about battery life on the Galaxy S7, however I don't feel the data backs this up. The Exynos 8890 variant is generally a step up in battery life, but the Snapdragon 820 variant is basically comparable to Exynos 7420 and by extension the Galaxy S6 and Note5. The Galaxy S7 edge is the only device that is an obvious step up in battery life for both variants, but this is through sheer battery capacity rather than any efficiency gains, as the Galaxy S7 edge ends up being a fairly heavy device in return for its great battery life. Charge time on both devices is competitive and in-line with expectations.

SoC performance, as well as storage performance are all commendable, but in general I don’t think there’s really been an appreciable change in the landscape with regard to SoCs. Snapdragon 820 and Exynos 8890 are both decently fast, but their speed is not really all that notable compared to Apple’s A9 SoC, especially when you consider things like browser performance which is heavily reliant on single-threaded performance. Kyro/Cortex-A72 is as good as you can get in the Android ecosystem at this time, so among Android phones this is top-tier performance, but in the broader landscape it's going to be overshadowed by what Apple has done.

The Galaxy S7 with Snapdragon 820 is also strangely slow in real-world situations as seen by Discomark, which is honestly somewhat puzzling. Samsung needs to put some real optimization effort into their Snapdragon devices as they actually trail the competition here to some extent, although if you aren’t that observant it’s unlikely you’ll notice a huge difference. Storage performance is great, but not really comparable to the iPhone 6s. This isn’t really a function of NVMe or UFS, but the design of the storage system itself. Given that Samsung is developing fairly small BGA SSDs already, I suspect the delta will go away soon. If you take away Apple devices, Samsung continues to ship some of the best storage on the market.

On the display side, Samsung continues to ship great AMOLED displays. While efficiency is not appreciably improved relative to the Galaxy S6 I would say that the best AMOLED panels now are greater than or equal to the best LCD panels. If Samsung can figure out how to reach efficiency parity with the best LCDs regardless of displayed content I would say that high end smartphones should really only be shipping AMOLED, but this is conditional upon whether OEMs can actually source these panels. Regardless, the Galaxy S7’s display is pretty much the best you can get in an Android device.

With camera, Samsung has managed to ship a fairly revolutionary camera sensor with phase detection at every pixel in the sensor, which makes it the fastest-focusing camera we’ve ever seen in a smartphone or tablet. Samsung has clearly prioritized speed here, and it’s great to see the kinds of amazing things Samsung is capable of achieving when their priorities are in the right place. However, with that said the output of the Galaxy S7 and S7 edge’s camera is not that impressive. I would argue that while it’s not worse than the iPhone 6s Plus, it is basically comparable. The real competition in this space comes from the HTC 10 and LG G5, the two of which manage to deliver arguably better still image output, and the HTC 10 manages to be comparable or better in video output other than slow motion. After a year of pointing out issues with slow motion video it seems Samsung has gotten around to shipping a solid implementation of this feature on the Galaxy S7, but they still seem to be limited by encode blocks on the Snapdragon 820 variant. The Galaxy S7 camera is good, but it’s not really amazing or all that well-rounded, unless you just don’t care about natural post-processing, good video stabilization, or detail-preserving noise reduction.

When it comes to WiFi, Samsung is doing an acceptable job, but not really a great one. The Broadcom BCM4359 chipset they’re shipping is a solid foundation, but throughput in general with respect to reception quality is just acceptable. Roaming latency is also well above what Apple is achieving with their devices. It does take enterprise-grade equipment to figure these issues out, but given the size of Samsung this should be a trivial task to get right. To be fair to Samsung, they are still doing better than HTC in this regard but Samsung is clearly trying to go after the enterprise market with the Galaxy S7 while HTC is still mostly targeting consumers.

The final area of discussion is software, and frankly Samsung’s UI just isn't something I find good. While the redesign with the Galaxy S5 was a solid step forward, in the time since Samsung has been stagnating in design yet again. While it’s fair to argue that design philosophies vary with culture, the Galaxy S7 is fundamentally an Android device and whatever changes Samsung makes to Android in terms of user interface need to be consistent in design so users have a similar experience with first party and third party apps. While themes can alleviate the issues to some extent, relying on third parties to solve fundamental problems with your user interface is really not what I would call a good user experience when themes can have noticeable effects on performance and battery life.

Outside of user interface design, it’s fairly obvious to me at this point that Samsung’s UI is just not particularly performant for whatever reason. While the 8890 variant might be better, the difference between the two SoCs is not so great that there should be noticeable frame drops in places like the app drawer, launcher, and settings app. Don’t get me wrong, the phone is usable despite these issues, but to continue justifying the $600+ USD price of these devices these problems just can’t be present.

Overall, the Galaxy S7 and S7 edge are solid phones, and overall are quite good. However looking at the broader path this phone has taken Samsung on, I’m left with the feeling that Samsung is just trying to follow industry trends rather than really approaching the design of their devices with some focus in mind. Samsung is clearly capable of incredible things as they were first to ship a device with UFS storage, the first to ship a 14nm FinFET SoC, and the first to ship a sensor with PDAF for each pixel.

The Galaxy S7 is clearly packed with features and ticks all the right boxes, but as soon as I start looking closer at everything I start to see cases where Samsung just doesn’t seem to care enough. Everything about the phone seems to be targeted towards being a great experience for the first week or two of ownership and while that strategy has worked well for them I’m left wondering what Samsung would be capable of if they cared about getting things right even if no one would notice the extra frame drop or 50ms of roam latency. I want Android phones that can be the best in the industry without any double standards, creative metrics, or qualifiers, and Samsung is clearly the OEM best-positioned to carry this out, so it's frustrating to see them fall short.

The Galaxy S7 and S7 edge are still great phones, but the difference between a $400 phone and a $700 phone are these details when phones like the OnePlus 3 are providing almost the same product at a dramatically reduced price. There are clear points of differentiation between the Galaxy S7 and OnePlus 3 or Mi5 in terms of features, but I don’t think it’s enough to be worth the $300. I think the only way to really justify the difference here is if you can get the Exynos 8890 version, which isn't necessarily an indictment of the Snapdragon 820, but rather the attention to detail that the Exynos variant receives.
 
Does anybody know if there is a way to completely disable safe mode on the s7 edge?

My girlfriend dropped her s7 edge earlier and the volume down rocker key took the impact. It is now dented and jammed in so the phone is thinking the volume down key is being held down. When booting up the phone, it is making it enter safe mode and its making her not be able to use any apps or do anything other than phone calls and texts.

I've looked through settings and developer options etc but as far as I can tell you can't disable it and it automatically enters it when switching it on because volume down is jammed.

She's getting it repaired soon but really needs to be able to use it in the mean time if possible.

I'm guessing there's no hope but if anybody knows of anything I would appreciate it. Cheers.

Have you tried holding volume up whilst it boots to try and counter-act it?

No idea if that's possible, sorry :) Worth a try.
 
Have you tried holding volume up whilst it boots to try and counter-act it?

No idea if that's possible, sorry :) Worth a try.

Yeah I already tried that last night but to no avail :( thanks for the suggestion though. Just gonna take it to a repair shop tomorrow and hope they can unstick the button. :)
 
Really like this phone......EXCEPT for the battery life :(
Seems pretty bad to me, can barely get a half a days usage (12hrs) without really dropping down.
 
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