The Official Windows Home Server 2011 Thread

paradisiac · 5 Apr 2012 at 15:23

ChileanLlama said:
Yep they could, because you'd have to give them read/write access to the share. If you wanted to move it out of sight then you're back to the script to move it from one share on the server to another restricted share, but you could still give them read only access so they could still view their backups.

Anyway, give it a go, just for yourself to see how it works - it's free for 5 PC's and is dead easy to setup. You might find it's better for what you want, but both will work.

do you know if WHS2011 has any feature for the script, or will it need to be made from scratch?

(a basic batch file should be able to do it shouldn't it?)

ChileanLlama · 5 Apr 2012 at 15:27

Can't think of anything that does it automatically.

But the script would be pretty simple, a copy and a del, then add it to a scheduled task. Rinse and repeat for each user - assuming they'll all have their own shares.

One question I forgot to ask earlier - are any of your family still on XP? If so Live Mesh isn't viable for them

paradisiac · 5 Apr 2012 at 15:34

ChileanLlama said:
Can't think of anything that does it automatically.

But the script would be pretty simple, a copy and a del, then add it to a scheduled task. Rinse and repeat for each user - assuming they'll all have their own shares.

One question I forgot to ask earlier - are any of your family still on XP? If so Live Mesh isn't viable for them

nope everyone is on windows 7.

I cannot get my test batch file to work

paradisiac · 5 Apr 2012 at 15:41

ok I have synctoy now which does the syncing from my temp mesh to my permanent backup folder. but does not then delete them from the temp folder

EDIT : synctoy is no use it is not automated

ChileanLlama · 5 Apr 2012 at 15:48

Won't this work?

robocopy \\servername\landing_share\ \\servername\backup_share\ *.* /mov

paradisiac · 5 Apr 2012 at 15:55

ChileanLlama said:
Won't this work?

robocopy \\servername\landing_share\ \\servername\backup_share\ *.* /mov

ok, for my test bat I have 2 folders test 1 and test 2 in the root of my drive (c

. in test 1 I have a text file.

I tried :

XCOPY c:\test 1\*.* c:\test 2\

MOVE c:\test 1\*.* c:\test 2\

robocopy c:\test 1\*.* c:\test 2\ /move

nothing worked

edit : my bad I forgot to "" things

so I now have :

MOVE "c:\test 1\*.*" "c:\test 2\"

and it works. is there anything I can add to auto rename?

ChileanLlama · 5 Apr 2012 at 15:58

In the Robocopy example the syntax is "path" "path" "filename" /operator so basically the *.* needs moving

Robocopy c:\test 1\ c:\test2\ *.* /mov

paradisiac · 5 Apr 2012 at 16:03

ChileanLlama said:
In the Robocopy example the syntax is "path" "path" "filename" /operator so basically the *.* needs moving

Robocopy c:\test 1\ c:\test2\ *.* /mov

I got :

but I copied your code directly, so I don't know why it is trying to save to my desktop :confused:

ChileanLlama · 5 Apr 2012 at 16:04

I forgot the space in between test and 2!!! Mybad!

paradisiac · 5 Apr 2012 at 16:07

ChileanLlama said:
I forgot the space in between test and 2!!! Mybad!

ok it doesn't like spaces at all, so I took those out and it worked. but only for files (like my move batch) how do I get it to do folders?

ChileanLlama · 5 Apr 2012 at 16:07

Grrr, you can't move the WHS2011 dashboard to the right hand monitor in surround

ChileanLlama · 5 Apr 2012 at 16:10

paradisiac said:
ok it doesn't like spaces at all, so I took those out and it worked. but only for files (like my move batch) how do I get it to do folders?

This feels like blind leading the blind now...soon going beyond my ability lol

Try adding /s (all subdirectories) or /e (all subdirectories including empty ones) after /mov or changing /mov to /move

paradisiac · 5 Apr 2012 at 16:13

ChileanLlama said:
This feels like blind leading the blind now...soon going beyond my ability lol

Try adding /s after /mov

yes that works

now 2 things.

1. if I use a space then the command does not work so my temp and backup folders cant have spaces

2. is there any way to automatically rename duplicates?

ChileanLlama · 5 Apr 2012 at 16:16

1. Quotes should work

2. Yes, there will be - but I don't know how to do it

paradisiac · 5 Apr 2012 at 16:18

ChileanLlama said:
1. Quotes should work

2. Yes, there will be - but I don't know how to do it

thankyou for all your help

at least im nearly there

where do I put the ""?

if they turn off their pc, it will still be in my server temp folder wont it? so I can set the batch file to run at say midnight, then next time they turn their pc on it will re-sync.

oh, but that will just re-sync their temp file back to my server wont it? so it would be a never ending circle.

ChileanLlama · 5 Apr 2012 at 16:24

No problem

you've kept me from going senile this afternoon

You'll need both PC's switched on for the transfer to complete - Mesh will generate a temporary file, so if it doesn't complete before their PC gets shut down, it will just start syncing again when a connection is made.

When you move it out of your temp mesh folder on the server, you're deleting it from Mesh. The file will then be removed from their folder and put in their recycle bin.

If you delete the incomplete file, you'll need to test to ensure it doesn't sync the deletion to the complete file on their PC. In other words you might need to make sure the sync is complete before running the .bat file.

ChileanLlama · 5 Apr 2012 at 16:27

Sorry...in addition - I don't think you'll find it goes around in a circle, you may get a conflict if you both changed the same files when offline. But not sure how it would react if you delete (move) an incomplete file.

paradisiac · 5 Apr 2012 at 16:28

ChileanLlama said:
No problem you've kept me from going senile this afternoon

You'll need both PC's switched on for the transfer to complete - Mesh will generate a temporary file, so if it doesn't complete before their PC gets shut down, it will just start syncing again when a connection is made.

When you move it out of your temp mesh folder on the server, you're deleting it from Mesh. The file will then be removed from their folder and put in their recycle bin.

If you delete the incomplete file, you'll need to test to ensure it doesn't sync the deletion to the complete file on their PC. In other words you might need to make sure the sync is complete before running the .bat file.

they wont be uploading at midnight (well I will pick a time they def wont be online).
so my theory is:
- they stick it in their 'temp" folder. it then syncs to the "temp" folder on the server.
- they then turn their pc off at say 10pm (both "temp" folders still contain the synced data)
- at midnight the server moves the "temp" folder to the "backup" folder
- 7am they turn their pc on and it then empties their "temp" folder as there is nothing in the "temp" folder on the server.

does this sound right?

ChileanLlama · 5 Apr 2012 at 16:36

Yep, it'll work - but what if it hasn't completed the sync by 10:00pm? You'll still move the incomplete file and it may then delete the real file when they reconnect.

Try it between your laptop and server. Get a fairly big file and pull the connection before it's finished uploading. Then delete it on the PC which has the incomplete copy - see what happens when you reconnect the other machine.

paradisiac · 5 Apr 2012 at 16:37

ChileanLlama said:
Yep, it'll work - but what if it hasn't completed the sync by 10:00pm? You'll still move the incomplete file and it may then delete the real file when they reconnect.

Try it between your laptop and server. Get a fairly big file and pull the connection before it's finished uploading. Then delete it on the PC which has the incomplete copy - see what happens when you reconnect the other machine.

oh right, I will make sure no one syncs between say midnight and 3am. I wont auto do it on the first backup as I know this will be huge

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