The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

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You're talking about an interaction between Stephen King and Elon Musk and you think King is the one behaving like a "screaming man baby"? Okay O_o
King's been a screeching man baby for years, his little meltdown regarding Musk is nothing new :D
But again, why would he pay? What's he paying for? The entire point of the blue checkmark has been removed.
Given all sorts of no marks have it now you can argue the 'point' of the checkmark was removed a long time ago.
 
But again, why would he pay? What's he paying for? The entire point of the blue checkmark has been removed.

I'm not sure it has plus if there is monetisation for the big accounts then presumably that could involve signing up for the blue checkmark to get the content creator rebate or whatever he's proposing.

Likewise for others, the offer of increased visibility etc.. is perhaps worth it.

One thing that would be nice is the ability to sign up for the benefits and *not* display the checkmark, that could be popular with some people using twitter for networking/business, perhaps if you're not a content creator/not generating revenue but you want some of the other benefits.

I mean there was the whole super follower thing, people who were fans of some twitter personality could click on super follow and then they get marked out in the replies as being a massive simp, it's a ridiculous thing to pay for and they were mocked, I think some might be wary of the blue checkmark thing if they're not creating content for a large audience etc.. then it might not suit what they want so the option to have the benefits but toggle the thing off could have a market.
 
I'm not sure it has plus if there is monetisation for the big accounts then presumably that could involve signing up for the blue checkmark to get the content creator rebate or whatever he's proposing.

Likewise for others, the offer of increased visibility etc.. is perhaps worth it.

One thing that would be nice is the ability to sign up for the benefits and *not* display the checkmark, that could be popular with some people using twitter for networking/business, perhaps if you're not a content creator/not generating revenue but you want some of the other benefits.

I mean there was the whole super follower thing, people who were fans of some twitter personality could click on super follow and then they get marked out in the replies as being a massive simp, it's a ridiculous thing to pay for and they were mocked, I think some might be wary of the blue checkmark thing if they're not creating content for a large audience etc.. then it might not suit what they want so the option to have the benefits but toggle the thing off could have a market.
Aye, the content creator aspect has got quite a few people interested that I follow on other social media
 
Given all sorts of no marks have it now you can argue the 'point' of the checkmark was removed a long time ago.

What the heck does "all sorts of no mark" even mean? The blue checkmark verifies the person is who they say they are (a bit badly because Twitter aren't competent enough to remove it if a verified user changes their name but hey ho), that's all.
 
IIRC Twitter WAS losing $1 million a day.

Then Musk loaded a lot of debt onto the company with his purchase that involved around a billion a year in interest, funny how he doesn't mention that 3/4 of the daily loss twitter is now facing is due to his decisions.

Musk needs to have a chat with Royal Mail's CEO and see which spins the truth best. :cry:
 
What the heck does "all sorts of no mark" even mean? The blue checkmark verifies the person is who they say they are (a bit badly because Twitter aren't competent enough to remove it if a verified user changes their name but hey ho), that's all.
No, the blue check mark had more qualities

The blue Verified badge on Twitter lets people know that an account of public interest is authentic. To receive the blue badge, your account must be authentic, notable, and active
It's the notable part.. it was not available to the man in the street..

However, I don't see how $8 a month to the man in the street would be useful either..
 
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I may be talking nonsense here but wasn't Twitter in a financial hole in the first place and that's why Dorsey sold it?

Yeah, it was losing $300m/year when Musk bought it, and he loaded it with debt so now it's worse than that.

It's the notable part.. it was not available to the man in the street..

Yes, there were criteria for going through the verification process, so they weren't available to all and sundry, but the entire point of the mark was to verify the person is who they say they are. That's all it does: tells you the person is who they say they are.
 
Yes, there were criteria for going through the verification process, so they weren't available to all and sundry, but the entire point of the mark was to verify the person is who they say they are. That's all it does: tells you the person is who they say they are.

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What the heck does "all sorts of no mark" even mean?
I tried to explain that the "no marks" are those people who wheren't notable and couldn't attain the fabled 'blue mark', simple really, I don't really care one way or the other, I can just see that the blue mark obviously was a badge of status not available to the man in the street.
 
I tried to explain that the "no marks" are those people who wheren't notable and couldn't attain the fabled 'blue mark', simple really, I don't really care one way or the other, I can just see that the blue mark obviously was a badge of status not available to the man in the street.

C Kent said "Given all sorts of no marks have it now" so he can't be referring to people who couldn't attain the mark. It's true the blue mark has some very minimal status value, but that isn't and wasn't its purpose. It's purpose was to limit the ability of users to imitate people and brands. Removing it - or the even worse situation Musk has created - removes that protection from the platform and makes it a worse place to be for everyone.
 
C Kent said "Given all sorts of no marks have it now" so he can't be referring to people who couldn't attain the mark. It's true the blue mark has some very minimal status value, but that isn't and wasn't its purpose. It's purpose was to limit the ability of users to imitate people and brands. Removing it - or the even worse situation Musk has created - removes that protection from the platform and makes it a worse place to be for everyone.
It also, if the new paid for mark is anything similar to it in looks means that Musk has quite probably opened twitter up to a legal minefield that the original blue check was meant to defuse.
Especially as Musk has got rid of most of the people that used to deal with things like fake accounts and impersonators, so the next time someone takes Twitter to court for allowing someone to impersonate them/breach their trademark twitter can't even now say "we were making a best effort to prevent this (entirely foreseeable thing) happening".

I find it funny how many people seem to think the blue check was entirely for the benefit of the person who had it, rather than it being primarily a way for Twitter to remove some of it's legal liabilities and I suspect a number of blue ticks would have been given to people who'd had attempts to impersonate them (as was the original impetus for the first ones).


i've been seeing some interesting comments in various places about how/why musk firing people he didn't seem to think were doing much may not be a great idea, including the fact that a lot of programmers/engineers don't actually produce a lot of written code/hardware changes every day because a lot of their time is spent analysing problems and trying to do preventative work, as if you're doing your job right in those sorts of roles you shouldn't be running around putting out proverbial fires, you should be preventing them from happening in the first place by doing things like observing performance of the hardware/code and trying to understand what is going on before you touch anything (and this doesn't provide a nice easy to see metric for "work done" because most of it doesn't involve writing new or actively physically doing anything, as the main thing you're using is your brain to read/understand/analyse).
 
Have the people that have been paid off really been told not to come to work or is it a bit like in that show Silicon Valley where they gave BIG HEAD a cheque and he had to spend the rest of his contract term on the roof of Hooli?

That's known as "rest and vest", perhaps a bit exaggerated in the show, it's a bit different, rather it's employees of a firm that's been taken over just bumbling on until their options or RSUs vest and they get their big payout.
 
C Kent said "Given all sorts of no marks have it now" so he can't be referring to people who couldn't attain the mark. It's true the blue mark has some very minimal status value, but that isn't and wasn't its purpose. It's purpose was to limit the ability of users to imitate people and brands. Removing it - or the even worse situation Musk has created - removes that protection from the platform and makes it a worse place to be for everyone.
Well yes, to get the blue checkmark previously (going back a good 5 years plus) you had to have some degree of 'fame' within an industry, nowadays all sorts of failures within a chosen profession can obtain the checkmark. In future if someone is stupid enough to fall for a verified "@E1onMusk" then they deserve everything they get.
 
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