The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

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dowie said:
The more damaging thing is the activist factor, they drove away advertisers before he even bought the thing. He might well be able to replace those or indeed have them come back once all the hype has settled down a bit but that's where a big chunk of the risk is coming from, that and the fact he's likely overpaid for this deal too (thus his attempts to get out of it)
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Citation please for made up fact
 
Werewolf said:
Meanwhile the advertisers are already taking note of the loss of the content moderation team
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This part is important.

The content moderation team isn't there for the users. It's not to protect some sensitive soul from being triggered. It's to keep advertising execs comfortable that their ads are not going to be shown against the type of content that's going to damage the brand and embarrass them.

 
So after promising to sack 75% of Twitter's workforce and make the company profitable, Musk has actually sacked 50% of the workforce and destroyed revenues.

That's quite a shaky start.

:p
 
mattx4 said:
The content moderation team isn't there for the users. It's not to protect some sensitive soul from being triggered. It's to keep advertising execs comfortable that their ads are not going to be shown against the type of content that's going to damage the brand and embarrass them.

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One day, the "but muh free speech on a privately owned platform!!" people might understand this (doubtful because most are undeniably stupid, but we can live in hope).

Not being allowed to say something on someone else's privately owned platform, where YOU are the product (because they basically only make money from advertising) is nothing to do with free speech.

It has **** all to do with political sides, activists or free speech or anything like that. It is because John Lewis don't want their cute family christmas advert next people being massively racist or pictures of bare titties.
 
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Elon continues to rack up the Ls.

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unwashed potato! said:
Citation please for made up fact
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The guy just posted a tweet from some random person called @WSBchairman talking about twitter employees asking for $15,000 for verification as a source. He isn't interested in facts. That twitter account is mainly just that guy simping for Elon.
 
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neocon said:
So you don't think Musk has thought this all through?

Payment verification sounds like a good move to me anyway.
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I want to pay tens of billions for a business with a falsified customer base that's losing 4mil a day and seems to be a job centre for the woke.
surely, you'd tell me I'm insane.

I bet all these woke companies boycotting twitter adds will still have a presence on the site and probably use it as their customer service point


Capitalist democracy is all well and good as long as they are the only ones able to afford doing it.
 
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dLockers said:
Apparently he ranked number of lines of code committed in the last 12 months and anyone less than X got sacked. Makes sense tbh. Lots of devs on £200k/year doing naff all.
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Tell me you know nothing about programming without saying you know nothing about programming.
 
dLockers said:
Apparently he ranked number of lines of code committed in the last 12 months and anyone less than X got sacked. Makes sense tbh. Lots of devs on £200k/year doing naff all.
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Mr Jack said:
Tell me you know nothing about programming without saying you know nothing about programming.
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Reminds me of this Mac Folklore story:

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In early 1982, the Lisa software team was trying to buckle down for the big push to ship the software within the next six months. Some of the managers decided that it would be a good idea to track the progress of each individual engineer in terms of the amount of code that they wrote from week to week. They devised a form that each engineer was required to submit every Friday, which included a field for the number of lines of code that were written that week.

Bill Atkinson, the author of Quickdraw and the main user interface designer, who was by far the most important Lisa implementor, thought that lines of code was a silly measure of software productivity. He thought his goal was to write as small and fast a program as possible, and that the lines of code metric only encouraged writing sloppy, bloated, broken code.

He recently was working on optimizing Quickdraw's region calculation machinery, and had completely rewritten the region engine using a simpler, more general algorithm which, after some tweaking, made region operations almost six times faster. As a by-product, the rewrite also saved around 2,000 lines of code.

He was just putting the finishing touches on the optimization when it was time to fill out the management form for the first time. When he got to the lines of code part, he thought about it for a second, and then wrote in the number: -2000.

I'm not sure how the managers reacted to that, but I do know that after a couple more weeks, they stopped asking Bill to fill out the form, and he gladly complied.
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Jeez, I thought the idea of KLOC as a KPI died in the 90’s.

Although with the qualifier ‘apparently’ as the source, I’ll wait for more info, but crazier things have happened.
 
Jono8 said:
The guy just posted a tweet from some random person called @WSBchairman talking about twitter employees asking for $15,000 for verification as a source. He isn't interested in facts. That twitter account is mainly just that guy simping for Elon.
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Possibly dowie's Twitter handle tbh
 
dowie said:
It's not from an Elon talking point though, there was a big thread on Twitter from the CEO of the non-profit org media matters literally detailing how an activist group called stop the deal scuppered pre-booked ad revenue:
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Gosh, how frightful though. A group sets out to educate advertisers and gets them to ask questions. However will society survive if this sort of education and questioning is allowed to continue?

;):p
 
dowie said:
This is interesting re: the blue checkmarks:

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This one is interesting, as it would seem there was a considerable amount of differing opinions as to whether that WSB Chairman account had any legitimate links to the WSB setup or indeed any basis to claim to be the chairman of it.

From that perspective, it's probably sensible the account wasn't legitimately given a verified checkmark, as it was a disputed identity so to speak.

If the claims that the mark could be bought via a backdoor for those unable to get one normally are true though, that makes a bit of a mockery. It would be interesting to see actual evidence of that happening though, which I've not noticed yet. Just claims of 'I have evidence'.
 
Jono8 said:
The guy just posted a tweet from some random person called @WSBchairman talking about twitter employees asking for $15,000 for verification as a source. He isn't interested in facts. That twitter account is mainly just that guy simping for Elon.
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I'm not talking about the wall street bets twitter, I'm talking about dowie saying that activists drow advertisers away.

We have posts after posts of dowie arguing with colonel that there is no direct proof that the firing of the staff was illegal etc, so dowie is pretending this high ground "let's stick to facts" position, but then he goes and writes as though it is fact, that activists drow advertisers away. Its made up at this point. And not just that, the reason dowie posts it, is because he isn't neutral, as much as he wants to pretend he's grounded and unbiased, he then writes bias like that, or simps over Elon, sharing the tweets from Elon where Elon shared conspiracy theory nonsense. That is dowie.
 
unwashed potato! said:
I'm not talking about the wall street bets twitter, I'm talking about dowie saying that activists drow advertisers away.

We have posts after posts of dowie arguing with colonel that there is no direct proof that the firing of the staff was illegal etc, so dowie is pretending this high ground "let's stick to facts" position, but then he goes and writes as though it is fact, that activists drow advertisers away. Its made up at this point. And not just that, the reason dowie posts it, is because he isn't neutral, as much as he wants to pretend he's grounded and unbiased, he then writes bias like that, or simps over Elon, sharing the tweets from Elon where Elon shared conspiracy theory nonsense. That is dowie.
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I know a few people who got verified just by knowing someone at Twitter. No payment though. You'll notice a lot of nobodies in the tech industry with a few thousand followers are verified.

I don't doubt for a moment that there have been verification ticks sold to other people.
 
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dowie said:

But of course, if you're unaware of that then you'll just go for your mindless "latest Elon talking point" rebuttal. Again, try to be a bit more objective, you don't need to keep on viewing the world in such a polarised way, take sides on everything and jump on anything that sounds like it may have come from the bad side etc..
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Well that is where you'd be wrong because I'd already read that thread. And it clearly says they weren't pressuring them to not buy ads, they were asking them to ask Twitter questions and Twitter had no answers that calmed the advertisers concerns. Trying to blame them for Elon's failings is just lazy.


And he blocked this guy because his tweets didn't seem to fit the Elon narrative.

Kenai said:
This one is interesting, as it would seem there was a considerable amount of differing opinions as to whether that WSB Chairman account had any legitimate links to the WSB setup or indeed any basis to claim to be the chairman of it.

From that perspective, it's probably sensible the account wasn't legitimately given a verified checkmark, as it was a disputed identity so to speak.

If the claims that the mark could be bought via a backdoor for those unable to get one normally are true though, that makes a bit of a mockery. It would be interesting to see actual evidence of that happening though, which I've not noticed yet. Just claims of 'I have evidence'.
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That account is such a Elon fanboy. The sycophancy is almost at sickening levels. You'd never likely get the taste of **** out of your mouth after kissing that much Elon arse.
 
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