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Has Elon done anything yet that actually added value to the platform. Doesnt look like it so far.....
The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down
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Nothing at all. Absolutely bot all.
I guess we will have agree to disagree then. I just know if a vendor I spend millions with sacked it's board, cut half its staff and gave vague answers on how it was to going to meet it's current obligations. It wouldn't take an activist to convince me to pause my spend there
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Lets see how this goes
Musk is getting mocked on his own timeline after scrambling to change the rules on impersonation via Twitter Blue.
You love to see it!
You do understand identity fraud is an actual thing? Verification doesn't make you immune to that, they're 2 separate issues. You can still impersonate an account of someone that is verified, I don't follow every verified account to know that someone else claiming to be that person isn't actually them. It's incredible you didn't work that part out.
Caporegime
Come on, I know you're not that thick.
I think you're right that Mastodon won't replace Twitter. It doesn't do the same thing, and trying to be Twitter doesn't play into its strengths. But I think you're wrong that people will simply come back to Twitter, instead they will mostly just drift off, and since social media lives and dies on network effects this will lead to the platform spiralling. A lot of people will simply leave and post on other platforms or just not find a replacement. Mastodon itself will actually work quite well for some groups, and people interested in those topics will tend to drift off Twitter over time. Every time someone leaves Twitter being on Twitter becomes a less valuable proposition.
Meanwhile, every change proposed by Musk so far will make the platform worse, much worse in some cases. All this will compound making the platform die over a few years or, at least, become a much smaller, less interesting, less important social media network. It'll join the likes of MySpace and LiveJournal: still active, but a shadow of its former self.
Soldato
It is getting like twitter is a human right to some and people are getting upset if anything changes. It is an online trolling platform. As it stands Elon rules, it was what was demanded from him so he is playing around with the Twitterati.
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and once the king has lost half his subjects and struggling to fund his country......
Caporegime
Musk mounted a hostile take-over by buying up shares. It wasn't "up for sale" as such.
Soldato
...nothing really matters, to me.
Opening it up for anyone to buy for $8 thus lifting the lid on the toilet and flushing the verification value it ever had.
And why are you saying it's my opinion.
It's Elon Musk suddenly realising it after 10,000 Elon Musks with blue ticks turned up to bully him.
Permanent bans, disabling of the blue tick when you name change.
Naturally this is more material to bully him with since it's comically against the claims of free speech and comedy he was tweeting about just beforehand.
Commissario
Verification as it was was explicitly to prevent/reduce impersonation...(and was bought in for Twitter inc's protection from lawsuits).
Verification where anyone can use a (potentially stolen) credit card to pay for it is no verification at all, it's proof you've got access to someone's credit card.
When blue ticks were specifcially verified it didn't stop people without a tick impersonating someone BUT it did make it far more obvious as the tick was only given to someone who was notable enough to be verified, so Musk got one after his account would have been verifired by proof of ID but "EIon Musk" wouldn't have been because that account would not have had the proof of ID to back it up, now with it basically being a paid for thing there is nothing to make that distinction clear, and scammers can and will pay for "verification" at $8 an account as they only need to get one bite to make it pay (assuming they're even using their own money and not just stolen cards).
I barely use twitter, but follow a number of verified actors/voice actors, not huge names that you'd probably have ever heard of but quite popular in their respective fandoms and they routinely get people trying to impersonate them, so for international stars/authors i can only imagine how much worse it is.
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Soldato
A comedian (not a very funny one) changing her visual name to Elon Musk when her actual twitter handle still reads @kathygriffen isn't going to fool anyone other than fools. Its clearly only being done to lampoon him and satire is as important to freedom of expression as anything. He just has a thin skin and can't handle people taking the ****. A little rich from someone who likes to troll as much as he does on twitter. Just one more case of someone being able to dish it out but not take it.
Who cares how much money he has? Why is it always these same "alpha" qualities you find so attractive in men? So he's rich, so what? You're saying anyone who wants to critique Musk has to be at the top of their industry? Well that has just narrowed it down to a handful of people. The world doesn't work like that. You just seem to be taking it badly that someone you admire is getting it from all angles atm. Well that is what happens when you act like Elon does, he is richer than god and I think he thought he could do anything with zero consequences but that hubris is now biting him in the arse and that is funny.
Caporegime
You only have to look at the average YouTube comment block to see how scammers behave when they can impersonate people. They only need one sucker reeled in from the $8 you paid from a stolen credit card for it to be worth their while, and things will be especially juicy over the next month or three before people learn that blue checks don't mean diddly squat any more.
It's been against twitter rules since before he took over the company, the change has simply been the penalty for it. You need to directly indicate it's a parody in the display name and on the account description, that's always been the case and twitter has had an issue with accounts doing this for a while.
I thought not impersonating people was supposed to be a good thing?
Not so long ago we had complaints in this thread that giving more people a blue check bad but now enforcing rules designed to stop the abuse is also bad???
I thought there was a court case about impersonating people and stuff... that Elon would be making a big mistake were he to weaken any verification or allow more impersonation.
Soldato
Surely the upcoming news articles are going to be something along the lines of "Elon Musk has perma banned x y and massive celebrity accounts due to name changes"
And then spiral will continue about how negatively Elon has effected the platform, how advertisers are leaving the platform, users leaving, big decent celebrities being perma banned, and you only then have to see the way twitter is going.
And then spiral will continue about how negatively Elon has effected the platform, how advertisers are leaving the platform, users leaving, big decent celebrities being perma banned, and you only then have to see the way twitter is going.
You mean like officially allowing any pleb with $8 to buy what used to be a verification mark.
This is just false, there are circa 400,000 blue checkmark accounts already, they're not all "notable" people, some are almost instantly given because someone works as a journalist for some publication no matter how small for example.
People with a tick impersonated other accounts! This is how several "Elon" crypto scams were attempted.
Secondly, there are plenty of big accounts without the tick which can be impersonated by anyone. A general increase in at least some verification for them (and anyone who wants it) and a crack down on impersonation seems like a good idea!
What?
That means he hasn't solved the problem at all, and his remedy to permaban them could have been applied previously.
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