The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

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dowie said:
It's been against twitter rules since before he took over the company, the change has simply been the penalty for it. You need to directly indicate it's a parody in the display name and on the account description, that's always been the case and twitter has had an issue with accounts doing this for a while.

I thought not impersonating people was supposed to be a good thing?

Not so long ago we had complaints in this thread that giving more people a blue check bad but now enforcing rules designed to stop the abuse is also bad???

I thought there was a court case about impersonating people and stuff... that Elon would be making a big mistake were he to weaken any verification or allow more impersonation.
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Jesus you couldn't pick a more simple view if you tried.

Is it even worth trying to explain that changing the blue tick from just notable users to anyone with £8, will cause impersonation and will result in lots of issues, all caused by Elon's decision.

Elon changes it, the bad things happened, and now dowie can't work out who's to blame. It's not Elon of course. It's those who said this would happen. Jesus such a simple thing to grasps and dowie has failed miserably.

Everyone "don't do that, you'll cause issue"
Issued caused
Everyone "now you're causing more issues to fix the one you created Elon"
Dowie "why are you moaning, you wanted this!!!"

Everyone checks thread history. Only person arguing for this was in fact, dowie.
 
dowie said:
This is just false, there are circa 400,000 blue checkmark accounts already, they're not all "notable" people, some are almost instantly given because someone works as a journalist for some publication no matter how small for example.

People with a tick impersonated other accounts! This is how several "Elon" crypto scams were attempted.

Secondly, there are plenty of big accounts without the tick which can be impersonated by anyone. A general increase in at least some verification for them (and anyone who wants it) and a crack down on impersonation seems like a good idea!
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Simultaneously you are devaluing the blue ticks and saying that "big accounts without the tick" would gain value from having one.

If they had questionable value earlier what improvement to the value of a blue tick has occurred now I can steal a card and buy one for $8.
 
unwashed potato! said:
Elon changes it, the bad things happened, and now dowie can't work out who's to blame. It's not Elon of course. It's those who said this would happen. Jesus such a simple thing to grasps and dowie has failed miserably.
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The issue being referred to is someone who already had blue checkmark changing it to impersonate Elon, this was already against the rules and has already happened on several occasions to Elon. It's not something that has only been able to happen because of the new change, if you're going to rant about others failing to understand simple things it helps if you get the basics right yourself!

Hotwired said:
Simultaneously you are devaluing the blue ticks and saying that "big accounts without the tick" would gain value from having one.

If they had questionable value earlier what improvement to the value of a blue tick has occurred now I can steal a card and buy one for $8.
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Why are you concerned about the value of a blue checkmark? I mean so what?
 
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dowie said:
The issue being referred to is someone who already had blue checkmark changing it to impersonate Elon, this was already against the rules and has already happened on several occasions to Elon. It's not something that has only been able to happen because of the new change, if you're going to rant about others failing to understand simple things it helps if you get the basics right yourself!
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This is like when Dis had a meltdown the other day.
 
dowie said:
Why are you concerned about the value of a blue checkmark? I mean so what?
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Because you stated it was of benefit to "big accounts without the tick"

Which is very odd considering you disregarded its value and because nothing has improved its ability to verify anyone recently.

My exact example to make the point was that I can steal a card and get that tick you think will benefit "big accounts without the tick". That is all I need to do.
 
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Hotwired said:
Opening it up for anyone to buy for $8 thus lifting the lid on the toilet and flushing the verification value it ever had.
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The value is supposed to be that someone is verified to be the person they claim to be, it isn't actually supposed to be a social status symbol
 
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dowie said:
The issue being referred to is someone who already had blue checkmark changing it to impersonate Elon, this was already against the rules and has already happened on several occasions to Elon. It's not something that has only been able to happen because of the new change, if you're going to rant about others failing to understand simple things it helps if you get the basics right yourself
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Lol you need to get the basics right.

Do you even know what happened before compared to what happens now? I know you like to pretend nothing has changed because daddy Elon tweeted it, but clearly it has.

Let's keep it simple.

Where was the warning? As it happened before you'd get warnings. Where was it? If no changes and this is how it was before, this should he easy for you to show.

Elon's tweet literally starts with the words "going forward"

Do you understand that means that, going backwards, it wasn't exactly like this and now there is change. You can grasp this concept yes

I see someone has perfectly described Elon as having substitute teacher vibes that's way over his head :cry:
 
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Hotwired said:
Because you stated it was of benefit to "big accounts without the tick"
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It would be for some.

Hotwired said:
Which is very odd considering you disregarded its value and because nothing has improved its ability to verify anyone recently.
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I'm not sure what is odd, it's value as a status symbol has decreased if access has been democratised, that doesn't mean it has no value!

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My exact example to make the point was that I can steal a card and get that tick you think will benefit "big accounts without the tick". That is all I need to do.
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You can get lots of things of value if you steal a card, I'm not sure what your point is?
 
dLockers said:
So mission not accomplished then? :S
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I've no idea what you mean. You pay $8 and presumably show some ID and then you're a verified user of Twitter, rather than it being exclusive to certain people. It's a service Twitter can provide to professionals and people who value their online persona. Nothing about this is difficult to understand. You can also not pay $8 and use Twitter like normal and still have the protection that if someone is falsely claiming to be you then they are breaking the ToS and can be banned.
 
Roar87 said:
I've no idea what you mean. You pay $8 and presumably show some ID and then you're a verified user of Twitter, rather than it being exclusive to certain people. It's a service Twitter can provide to professionals and people who value their online persona. Nothing about this is difficult to understand. You can also not pay $8 and use Twitter like normal and still have the protection that if someone is falsely claiming to be you then they are breaking the ToS and can be banned.
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But people are didn't have a blue tick, now have a blue tick for $8, and can change their name to impersonate whoever they want.

So it hasn't solved the problem, it has just made it more prolific?

Roar87 said:
have the protection that if someone is falsely claiming to be you then they are breaking the ToS and can be banned.
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This has always been the case?
 
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dowie said:
It would be for some.

I'm not sure what is odd, it's value as a status symbol has decreased if access has been democratised, that doesn't mean it has no value!

You can get lots of things of value if you steal a card, I'm not sure what your point is?
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I'm waiting for you to describe what value it has today for these "big accounts without a tick" not vaguely suggest there are answers out there but invite me to repeat myself.
 
dLockers said:
But people are didn't have a blue tick, now have a blue tick for $8, and can change their name to impersonate whoever they want.

So it hasn't solved the problem, it has just made it more prolific?
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They would breaking terms of service by doing that, are you being deliberately thick?
 
Roar87 said:
I've no idea what you mean. You pay $8 and presumably show some ID and then you're a verified user of Twitter
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Except the 'show some ID' bit isn't confirmed to be a requirement still and depending what you read, some people are suggesting it is being removed, so it's simply 8$ = blue tick.
 
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