The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

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Mr Jack said:
This isn't really true. There isn't another platform offering what Twitter offers, each platform is different and offers different strengths and weaknesses. While you might theoretically be able to do the same sort of thing on Facebook, say, in practice it just doesn't work well if you try and do the same thing with it.
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I basically agree. There sort of are (in terms of functionality at least) but they're not in the same league, I mean you could get a group of friends who did a CS degree or one of those coding boot camps together and they could launch a basic version of Twitter... In reality, the widely mocked apps like Parley and Gab are a couple of the very best attempts of others launching a twitter rival, it's not easy to try and replace it.

Mr Jack said:
if Elon's changes produce the expected degradation in the quality of the platform, a significant number of people will leave.
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I don't think I'd necessarily agree with this, he's taking some risk but he's intent on making improvements to the platform, I don't think the obvious expectation is that the quality of the platform degrades.

For example, he mentioned some feature to insert longer text without having to do a screenshot of your notepad, Jack mentioned that feature had already been developed internally... it does seem like Twitter is slow to implement things in production... rather different to the much larger and more successful company Meta/Facebook where the philosophy is "move fast break things".

The improvements to verification certainly seem to make spam more expensive and/or less visible... I guess they need to be careful how much they tweak it, the free tier users will still have considerable value to the company from ad revenue, that's their bread and butter and they don't want to alienate them. I suspect they need to also look at working on ML to improve the classification of accounts and decide which to deboost or even just hide completely in the replies.

I think the big risk is the advertisers and the activist groups, some people are basically treating Elon as the new Trump and they'll be kicking off at literally anything and everything he does 'cos twitter man bad. The usual rent-a-mob influencers BLM etc.. will carry on making noise about Elon owning twitter and some how ram their pet cause into the narrative too. That's bound to scare big brands off initially though with a large platform, if he gets it right and the noise/hype/fearmongering that it's going to be the next Gab/Parler doesn't pan out then plenty should come back.
 
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The irony of someone reporting one of my posts in this thread, lol. Free speech for all but only if I agree with what you say. Billionaires get a free pass also.
 
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sigma said:
The irony of someone reporting one of my posts in this thread, lol. Free speech for all but only if I agree with what you say. Billionaires get a free pass also.
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It was me, but not because it was bad but because it was so beautifully correct and I wanted it to be rewarded ;)

Seriously though, if you make a post that is reportable, regardless of what side you're on, breaking rules is breaking rules. If the post wasn't reportable and someone still did, I very much doubt the mods would have told you about it and just ignored the report.
 
unwashed potato! said:
It was me, but not because it was bad but because it was so beautifully correct and I wanted it to be rewarded ;)

Seriously though, if you make a post that is reportable, regardless of what side you're on, breaking rules is breaking rules. If the post wasn't reportable and someone still did, I very much doubt the mods would have told you about it and just ignored the report.
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You have too much faith in the mods, my dear unwashed potato.
 
sigma said:
The irony of someone reporting one of my posts in this thread, lol. Free speech for all but only if I agree with what you say. Billionaires get a free pass also.
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You're welcome my dude! It's moderation decisions like this that make this platform better than others. As a bit of a free speech advocate it is obviously a conflict of principles to report someone knowing that their post will likely get removed, and I can appreciate it might seem hypocritical in some instances, but I don't think there's much chance you're going to argue that your post had any merit or content beyond simply a dig. I'm not sure where you're going with billionaires getting a free pass, given we're talking about this place, a billionaire would most definitely be treated the same as anyone else.
 
Zefan said:
You're welcome my dude! It's moderation decisions like this that make this platform better than others. As a bit of a free speech advocate it is obviously a conflict of principles to report someone knowing that their post will likely get removed, and I can appreciate it might seem hypocritical in some instances, but I don't think there's much chance you're going to argue that your post had any merit or content beyond simply a dig. I'm not sure where you're going with billionaires getting a free pass, given we're talking about this place, a billionaire would most definitely be treated the same as anyone else.
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My point was more topical re:the thread around the broader context of moderation and twitter, not ocuk moderation views on billionaires. I.e. people defending (such as Roar) Musk because he's rich so he can say and do what he wants.

Anyway, I guess this is off topic so to avoid a ban I'll say no more.
 
sigma said:
My point was more topical re:the thread around the broader context of moderation and twitter, not ocuk moderation views on billionaires. I.e. people defending (such as Roar) Musk because he's rich so he can say and do what he wants.

Anyway, I guess this is off topic so to avoid a ban I'll say no more.
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Fair enough, I get what you mean. It's not that he's rich, it's that he owns the platform and therefore he is the law. If people don't like it, they'll vote with their wallets (seemingly unfolding before our eyes day by day).
 
Uther said:
Yeah, about meta...
news.sky.com

Facebook and Instagram owner Meta to lay off more than 11,000 staff

Mark Zuckerberg admits personal mistakes have contributed to Meta's struggles as he apologises for the need to cut so many workers under wider plans to cut costs and refocus the business.
news.sky.com news.sky.com
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I'm not surprised really. Meta/Twitter et al don't really make a product or a service that they charge for. Instead relying wholly on advertising as their main source of income.

Google who also make a **** ton of money from advertising, but also have a number of physical products and services that they sell.
 
Semple said:
I'm not surprised really. Meta/Twitter et al don't really make a product or a service that they charge for. Instead relying wholly on advertising as their main source of income.

Google who also make a **** ton of money from advertising, but also have a number of physical products and services that they sell.
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This is why Meta are moving to the Metaverse so they have both hardware and a platform , rather than relying on Apple and Android platform. The hardware itself is nit actually important at all, but they want to push the VR technology further and faster.
 
JRS said:
Go on then Elon fanboys. You first.
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The Kardachian girlidiot would probably like her money on deposit in Musks crypto vault, even tesla shares would be iffy


[ like they repeated on news meta profits are only sympathetic with hardware market, too
The personal computing market saw shipments continue to cool in the third quarter as demand waned and supply chain issues persisted, according to the data from the International Data Corporation released Monday
Compared with this time last year, shipments were down 15%, which is still well above pre-pandemic levels, IDC found. Global shipments totaled 74.3 million in the quarter, down from 87.3 million during the same period last year.
HP saw PC shipments decline about 28%, Dell shipments were down 21% and Lenovo 16%. Meanwhile, Apple bucked the trend with PC shipments rising 40% in the third quarter.
AMD hinted at this headwind last week when the chipmaker cut its sales forecast on Thursday for the third quarter, blaming a larger-than-expected decline in the PC market and supply chain issues.
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