The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

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Well, what's independent? A news site that gets ad revenue if it produces a story that people click on? You tell me, I assume you believed the prior story so you must have checked it's source

Did I comment on it?

Well the independent person dowie posted above on the child sex stuff seems to check out and she doesn't appear to have any skin in the game. Elon does have skin in the game and he isn't exactly known for his accurate statements, so I think its fair to ask for something as big as that to be backed up. Don't you think?
 
think its fair to ask for something as big as that to be backed up. Don't you think?
Exactly.

Elon is good as selling himself/something, and he's been shown to have a record of over talking something. It's worked extremely well for him, but to deny his history is beyond being a fanboy. It's almost cult like behaviour that they not only deny the reality that Elon over sells, but the ability to question anything.
 
Are you reading what you post, or are you just messing with us at this point?

Hard to tell.
You mean you arent?

C/mon, comparing a single tweet of trumps about the Fine people at Charlottesville, conflating it with the UK's go home vans as some kind of retort to Critical Race Theory is so ludicrous it made me nearly spit my coffee out.

You missed that a good chunk of the right/conservatives don't want to stay put they want to regess. Just as there is a chunk on the left that take it all too far in how quickly they want to change things.
A good chunk is debatable, you have your Moggs of the world.. I see that, but I've never seen some universal criticism of actual regression outside normal political rhetoric.. I remember 2012-2014 sometime, under Cameron, Gay Marraige was made legal (over civil partnerships), they didn't regress.. I only bring that up, because we had a sudden flurry of wedding invites comes in as everyone wanted to take advantage of it, I think if they truly wanted to regress, we'd have some meaningful examples of this, but I stand to corrected.

You are going to need to back that up.
What like affirmative action? here's but one tiny example https://www.scientificamerican.com/...rmative-action-and-against-scientific-racism/ "The Supreme Court could destroy affirmative action in higher education, and STEM professionals must stand against the white supremacy and scientific racism that fuels arguments against it" but take the entire CRT and other racially disciminating ideas and see what those that oppose it are labelled.
Trump is just one man? A 3rd of the population believes the election was stolen. They believe Dems run a child sex trafficking ring. They believe there is a "deep state". They want a Christian nationalist state. 90% of Republican Congressmen fully buy in to Trump's crap and would back him in anything he did. Now if that isn't a cult I don't know what is.
I know.. and every Dem 'knew' that the 2016 electrion was massively influenced by Russia (how many dems came out with stolen comments then). They also "knew" that Hunter Bidens laptop was also the work of foreign actors, US politics is completely borked.. Their voting system is so random and archaic, it leaves itself open to criticism, and to single out one side for CT whilst completely overlook the entire political spectrum which is awash with CT is bizarre.
Biden called Rittenhouse that after he posed with Proud Boys and they all threw the hand gesture that has been co-opted by the white power douche bags. How is he non white? He looks as white as Biden to me. If he is mixed race I'll stand corrected.
Biden was stupid for saying that though before any trial took place. He was going down to Trump's level and no one wants to be down there.
No, I actually agree Biden probably didn't even know what or why Rittenhouse was in that video, it was basic drive by political point scoring, I don't agree he specifically knew about the proud boys, I'd take it at face value, he just messed up. KR's ethnicity is a bit vague, but why would you change your position if mixed race, would it exonerate him of his proud boys association (which is vague at best), it really shouldn't.. he purports to be a BLM supporter, but that also shouldn't factor in..
BTW, I actually made that comparison because if you read the entire conversation with Trump about his 'fine people' comment, he clearly messed up, he didn't know much about the situation, he was against the act of attacking a statue, he thought he could score points with the patriotic aspect, he misjudged because the far right crowd alledgedly dominated, so despite him saying explcitly he wasn't talking about white supremecists and how they are criminals and should be locked up, it was too late.. the media pounced, the headline was set.. In the same way Biden was caught out over KR.. And Tony messed up, he comes across angry as if the fine people comment is absolute proof of Trumps support of the KKK, and then conflated the 'Go Home Vans' or randomly blurted that out, but that was a UK thing and about illegal immigration, not directly about racism.. In other words, his anger is based on a very tenuous argument.

It seems people are so unipolar, they are happy to take soundbites and media spun rhetoric to fuel themselves up to a lather and decided what they want to take out of context and what not too.. In this case I see two idiots, Biden and Trump, two corrrupt parties, the republicans and the democrats, and I can't ignore either sides awfulness.. Suppressing the hunter biden laptop was terrible, Trump claiming stolen elections is terrible.. Honestly, for all teh crap Trump does, how can you excuse Bidens approach as well? "While the verdict in Kenosha will leave many Americans feeling angry and concerned, myself included, we must acknowledge that the jury has spoken.".. immediately after the KR verdict.. He's almost telling people to be angry like he is.
But I don't feel particularly 'angry' at either party as such, I just agree and disagree with many aspects of each.. I don't align with one side, I don't think generalising MAGA as some form of dangerous group is helpful or true, we have MAGA voters in our US office, nice enough people, one is black, one is hispanic, neither seem violent or 'out there' they just seem to be proud of their country and seemingly like that aspect of MAGA.. but to some people (e.g. Tony) he'd assume they are gun toting racist idiots hell bent on genocide or something, when if you actually talk to them, you'd find they aren't both devout prolifers, nor even in favour of guns.. nor did they mention stolen votes, the only comment I've heard from them is how crap the voting systems are state to state and how it needs to be fixed for transparency and stop them being able to come under fire.
 
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So after several posts, the only thing of substance you have to criticise re: things I've actually said is John Cleese isn't a liberal. Good going Colonel...
To be fair, if someone else had got it wrong you would be knocking out four pages worth of replies along with a Twitter RSS feed of "evidence" :)
 
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Assume the daddy elon fan boys agree that if we must respect the money Elon has made and can't question it due to him being richer so there for we must be wrong, we can now laugh at the money he has lost? The biggest winner also becomes the biggest loser.

But those are rookie numbers, I feel Elon has it in him to pump up those numbers so more.

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Assume the daddy elon fan boys agree that if we must respect the money Elon has made and can't question it due to him being richer so there for we must be wrong, we can now laugh at the money he has lost? The biggest winner also becomes the biggest loser.

But those are rookie numbers, I feel Elon has it in him to pump up those numbers so more.

Wars cost money.
 
So after several posts, the only thing of substance you have to criticise re: things I've actually said is John Cleese isn't a liberal. Good going Colonel...

You liked the first post that just had that illustration in it. You obviously agree with it but its nonsense.

I do love the way you can ignore whole posts except for one line or 2 that suit your reply. Anyone can do that dowie.
 
Caused by 1500 accounts/bots like Elon said. Most likely caused by the same people/astroturfers that have been influencing twitter employees to censor opposing views or what they deem as "misinformation" aka Biden laptop

People in here are daft, everything is viewed through a left/right extreme viewpoint

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What a load of ********. The reason the 'conservative' by that he means the right wing nutcase got more negatively affected was because they mostly spout lies.

Right wingers complain they cant say racist things, tell women they cant kill children in the womb, tell outright lies yet people like OAC can bang on about minimum wages and workers rights.

It isnt the same ******* thing.
 
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What a load of ********. The reason the 'conservative' by that he means the right wing nutcase got more negatively affected was because they mostly spout lies.

Right wingers complain they cant say racist things, tell women they cant kill children in the womb, tell outright lies yet people like OAC can bang on about minimum wages and workers rights.

It isnt the same ******* thing.
Well said.
 
You mean you arent?

C/mon, comparing a single tweet of trumps about the Fine people at Charlottesville, conflating it with the UK's go home vans as some kind of retort to Critical Race Theory is so ludicrous it made me nearly spit my coffee out.


A good chunk is debatable, you have your Moggs of the world.. I see that, but I've never seen some universal criticism of actual regression outside normal political rhetoric.. I remember 2012-2014 sometime, under Cameron, Gay Marraige was made legal (over civil partnerships), they didn't regress.. I only bring that up, because we had a sudden flurry of wedding invites comes in as everyone wanted to take advantage of it, I think if they truly wanted to regress, we'd have some meaningful examples of this, but I stand to corrected.
One minute its UK politics, then its US. This thread has been mainly US so lets stick with that. So yes a good chuck has moved further right and become regressive.
What like affirmative action? here's but one tiny example https://www.scientificamerican.com/...rmative-action-and-against-scientific-racism/ "The Supreme Court could destroy affirmative action in higher education, and STEM professionals must stand against the white supremacy and scientific racism that fuels arguments against it" but take the entire CRT and other racially disciminating ideas and see what those that oppose it are labelled.

This was your quote

Say what..

So back in 2008, racism was a term embued on the act of identifying people by their skin colour and treating you differently based on that..
In 2021, racism is a term embued on someone that doesn't want to identify people by their skin colour and wants to treat them all equally...

Was that a right wing idea was it?

How have you got from that to affirmative action, something that has been around for years in the US due to their problems with institutional racism. This is a country that had Jim Crow only 56 years ago. Do you think 100s of years of state imposed racism that was passed down father to son just disappears because Congress passes a couple of laws? There is a good argument for it not being needed in the UK but the US race is still a big problem. When Republican legislatures still go out of their way to make it hard for POC to vote its fair to say the right still has a problem with racism.

I know.. and every Dem 'knew' that the 2016 electrion was massively influenced by Russia (how many dems came out with stolen comments then). They also "knew" that Hunter Bidens laptop was also the work of foreign actors, US politics is completely borked.. Their voting system is so random and archaic, it leaves itself open to criticism, and to single out one side for CT whilst completely overlook the entire political spectrum which is awash with CT is bizarre.

The Russians did interfere in the 2016 election with the aim of helping Trump get elected. The Republican controlled Senate Intelligence Committee said so in its report. Dems aren't still screaming about it now, they weren't in 2018 or 2020. Hunter Biden laptop is such a red herring. So the son of a candidate who has never worked in government used his name to get jobs and earn money. Just like millions of other rich/famous people out there, old boy network says hi. That in no way compares to Trump attempting to overthrow an election and the other crap he pulled with president. This is a man who blackmailed Ukraine after all.

And again how its got to here from you claiming Trump is one man is beyond me. The man has developed a cult of personality where 1/3 of Americans believe every lie that comes out of his mouth.

No, I actually agree Biden probably didn't even know what or why Rittenhouse was in that video, it was basic drive by political point scoring, I don't agree he specifically knew about the proud boys, I'd take it at face value, he just messed up. KR's ethnicity is a bit vague, but why would you change your position if mixed race, would it exonerate him of his proud boys association (which is vague at best), it really shouldn't.. he purports to be a BLM supporter, but that also shouldn't factor in..
BTW, I actually made that comparison because if you read the entire conversation with Trump about his 'fine people' comment, he clearly messed up, he didn't know much about the situation, he was against the act of attacking a statue, he thought he could score points with the patriotic aspect, he misjudged because the far right crowd alledgedly dominated, so despite him saying explcitly he wasn't talking about white supremecists and how they are criminals and should be locked up, it was too late.. the media pounced, the headline was set.. In the same way Biden was caught out over KR.. And Tony messed up, he comes across angry as if the fine people comment is absolute proof of Trumps support of the KKK, and then conflated the 'Go Home Vans' or randomly blurted that out, but that was a UK thing and about illegal immigration, not directly about racism.. In other words, his anger is based on a very tenuous argument.

It seems people are so unipolar, they are happy to take soundbites and media spun rhetoric to fuel themselves up to a lather and decided what they want to take out of context and what not too.. In this case I see two idiots, Biden and Trump, two corrrupt parties, the republicans and the democrats, and I can't ignore either sides awfulness.. Suppressing the hunter biden laptop was terrible, Trump claiming stolen elections is terrible.. Honestly, for all teh crap Trump does, how can you excuse Bidens approach as well? "While the verdict in Kenosha will leave many Americans feeling angry and concerned, myself included, we must acknowledge that the jury has spoken.".. immediately after the KR verdict.. He's almost telling people to be angry like he is.
But I don't feel particularly 'angry' at either party as such, I just agree and disagree with many aspects of each.. I don't align with one side, I don't think generalising MAGA as some form of dangerous group is helpful or true, we have MAGA voters in our US office, nice enough people, one is black, one is hispanic, neither seem violent or 'out there' they just seem to be proud of their country and seemingly like that aspect of MAGA.. but to some people (e.g. Tony) he'd assume they are gun toting racist idiots hell bent on genocide or something, when if you actually talk to them, you'd find they aren't both devout prolifers, nor even in favour of guns.. nor did they mention stolen votes, the only comment I've heard from them is how crap the voting systems are state to state and how it needs to be fixed for transparency and stop them being able to come under fire.

Your words

Trump is one person, the woke are a complete cult..

You do know Biden stood up and called Kyle Rittenhouse a white supremecist? You know, the non white guy who legally shot 3 criminal white guys trying to kill him? That's not inciting anything there either? and the same Biden also said he wanted to unite everyone and be inclusive, then in the same sentence alienated a massive chunk of people with his idiotic generalisation of MAGA?? Ultra MAGA, Mega MAGA.. lol, does that mean all Dem supporters think the same way.

Jeremy Corbyn has been photographed at events with some unsavioury people, does that mean all labour supporters think the same way?

I don't like Trump AND I don't like Biden, they are as bad as each other (in different ways), but none of those 'ways' are good..

Where do I fit on that diagram then?

So you are the one saying he's not white. He looks pretty white to me. And he did get photos taken with Proud Boys throwing that hand sign. What do you expect people to think? Yes I'm sure he was a BLM supporter :rolleyes: Just like I'm sure those tears were real in court. In the US though you can take a gun out on the street and shoot people of you feel threatened. So by their laws it wasn't murder.
 
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You liked the first post that just had that illustration in it. You obviously agree with it but its nonsense.

I do love the way you can ignore whole posts except for one line or 2 that suit your reply. Anyone can do that dowie.

Just because I've not quoted an entire post in full doesn't mean I ignored it, I quoted the only part that actually dealt with something I'd said, the rest is your own projection... as per usual.
 
Caused by 1500 accounts/bots like Elon said. Most likely caused by the same people/astroturfers that have been influencing twitter employees to censor opposing views or what they deem as "misinformation" aka Biden laptop

People in here are daft, everything is viewed through a left/right extreme viewpoint

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Coming from someone with extreme right wing views that is a little rich. I mean you are way out there compared to 95% of posters.
 
Oh, apologies, I thought you where trying to discuss in good faith..

"The hunter biden laptop was a red herring".. LOL..

and progressives trying to overturn a long standing court ruling to allow them to use affirmative action based on race with the idea that anyone standing up to that is a "white supremecist and 'scientific' racist" doesn't perfectly illustrate my point?

I don't need to have any further conversation, I'll just turn over to CNN to find out what you opinion is on something, it will cut out the middle man. :)
 
Caused by 1500 accounts/bots like Elon said.

Evidence that they are bots, please. We all know the spike in hate speech was the result of conservatives flooding Twitter with the worst speech they thought they could get away with, to test the limits of free speech under Musk's management. He had to explain that he hadn't changed anything yet.

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This is good news, looks like I might get my old account back. The one I used to bully Eric Trump.

:D
 
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