The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down
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Just saw that the lawyers have started sending letters informing Musk/Twitter that they will start legal action via arbitration as per the employment contracts unless Musk/Twitter honour both the employment contracts and the contract Musk signed when he took over stating that he would not be making certain changes for at least a year specifically to try and ensure that employees didn't leave with those benefits intact (taking their knowledge and skills) before he completed the deal and that he couldn't upon purchase immediately remove those benefits.
Because of that contract and the nature of the job, all arbitration depositions (and meetings I think) have to be done within 45 miles of where the employees worked (so if they worked from home that's a location within 45 miles of their home), and they are individual arbitration cases (the employment contract doesn't allow class actions*) with Twitter under the terms of the contract and from what I understand the law in which it was set up, end up covering the costs of the arbitration even if the decision ends up in Twitters favour.
Apparently as it is he's not even honouring the packages he agreed to in order to try and bypass the various state laws in regards to mass firings, where he said he'd continue to pay/provide the benefits for people he fired in his first mass layouffs, apparently that isn't happening, and the lawyers are also looking at going after him under discrimination laws because of the way he did the firings/the groups he got rid of and I suspect the effect removing childcare as a benefit without would have on one specific group in particular.
There are also provisions (from what I've seen, not very good ones for him) in the contract that Musk apparently insisted on that could be used to show he bought twitter with no intent in honouring the purchase agreement in terms of the employees contracts and conditions, which opens up not just compensation to cover what the employment contract and the purchase contract stated in regards to the employees, but also punitive damages.
Now the fun bit for Musk is that he personally is apparently liable for the money from some of these issues under the laws of several states, including by the sounds of it the one where Twitter is incorporated.
At best if I'm understanding it correctly Twitter is looking at potentially paying more out in the costs of the arbitration cases than they've saved by playing silly games, at worst Twitter and Musk end up having to honour the financial and benefit terms of employment, pay all the arbitration costs and potentially paying out punitive damages and getting the feds looking into them under federal anti discrimination laws.
It seems that Musk has either not bothered getting any legal advice before acting, or has ignored it. And some people who were not super genius's could see something along these lines coming the moment he sacked half the staff without notice.
*From what I'm seeing that's something a lot of companies took up to try and make it harder for employees to sue, but didn't consider what happens when the company is facing hundreds/thousands of claims at once, all of which have to be dealt with individually due to that clause meaning you suddenly need a very large number of simultaneous lawyers and arbitrators.
Because of that contract and the nature of the job, all arbitration depositions (and meetings I think) have to be done within 45 miles of where the employees worked (so if they worked from home that's a location within 45 miles of their home), and they are individual arbitration cases (the employment contract doesn't allow class actions*) with Twitter under the terms of the contract and from what I understand the law in which it was set up, end up covering the costs of the arbitration even if the decision ends up in Twitters favour.
Apparently as it is he's not even honouring the packages he agreed to in order to try and bypass the various state laws in regards to mass firings, where he said he'd continue to pay/provide the benefits for people he fired in his first mass layouffs, apparently that isn't happening, and the lawyers are also looking at going after him under discrimination laws because of the way he did the firings/the groups he got rid of and I suspect the effect removing childcare as a benefit without would have on one specific group in particular.
There are also provisions (from what I've seen, not very good ones for him) in the contract that Musk apparently insisted on that could be used to show he bought twitter with no intent in honouring the purchase agreement in terms of the employees contracts and conditions, which opens up not just compensation to cover what the employment contract and the purchase contract stated in regards to the employees, but also punitive damages.
Now the fun bit for Musk is that he personally is apparently liable for the money from some of these issues under the laws of several states, including by the sounds of it the one where Twitter is incorporated.
At best if I'm understanding it correctly Twitter is looking at potentially paying more out in the costs of the arbitration cases than they've saved by playing silly games, at worst Twitter and Musk end up having to honour the financial and benefit terms of employment, pay all the arbitration costs and potentially paying out punitive damages and getting the feds looking into them under federal anti discrimination laws.
It seems that Musk has either not bothered getting any legal advice before acting, or has ignored it. And some people who were not super genius's could see something along these lines coming the moment he sacked half the staff without notice.
*From what I'm seeing that's something a lot of companies took up to try and make it harder for employees to sue, but didn't consider what happens when the company is facing hundreds/thousands of claims at once, all of which have to be dealt with individually due to that clause meaning you suddenly need a very large number of simultaneous lawyers and arbitrators.
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Kanye suspended...again
Elon Musk suspends Kanye West from Twitter for inciting violence
Elon Musk confirmed the rapper had violated Twitter's rules around inciting violence.
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Ol' Musky is copping a heaping helping of backlash for this decision, and I'm absolutely here for it.
So much for all the scaremongering that Elon was going to turn it into some alt-right paradise; Kanye goes all antisemitic again and guess what? He gets booted.
Back to a real issue though, advertising, it seems like they've got some serious work to do there as Twitter Blue subscriptions won't pay the bills. He's satisfied some people that he's not turning Twitter into a free for all, had a chat with Tim Cook to try and reduce any risk there etc.. he's also slashed costs dramatically with the mass layoffs and defied the predictions of Twitter dying within days of that happening.
The risk is still the advertising, old Twitter seemingly could have improved the ad server substantially with a bit of ML, but current Twitter under Elon has dropped the ball big time so far and if this is an accurate reflection of what advertising buyers are seeing then he needs to seriously correct this:
Back to a real issue though, advertising, it seems like they've got some serious work to do there as Twitter Blue subscriptions won't pay the bills. He's satisfied some people that he's not turning Twitter into a free for all, had a chat with Tim Cook to try and reduce any risk there etc.. he's also slashed costs dramatically with the mass layoffs and defied the predictions of Twitter dying within days of that happening.
The risk is still the advertising, old Twitter seemingly could have improved the ad server substantially with a bit of ML, but current Twitter under Elon has dropped the ball big time so far and if this is an accurate reflection of what advertising buyers are seeing then he needs to seriously correct this:
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If only that had been posted before...
The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down
Yes I'd like to see this too. Why some can see the clear positive message, and others get angry and moan and cry on the Internet and boycott a frigging razor blade brand. That and that they just are so fragile with their emotions and have no idea how to do anything other than be angry. Poor...
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It's still relevant and the thread is on 300+ pages.
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I’m guessing Kanye West dropping the “H Bomb” on Alex Jones’ show might not have done AJ’s chance of having his Twitter account re-opened any favours.
Mad? Quite the opposite.
It's a clown show, therefore it is quite entertaining.
Even more entertaining is reading the comments from people who take any of these clowns seriously.
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But here you are complaining about your "Entertainment"
And getting your angry jumper ready.
There is nothing you can do, and all the moaning in the world won't make a bit a difference.
There seams to be a lot of masochists posting.
What?
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I'm wondering how Musk is justifying this ban. Nothing Kanye tweeted was in any way illegal in the US, it was protected speech. He didn't tell anyone to commit any violence, he just posted a image of a star of David and swastika combined.
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He is such a confused man.
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