The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

[Roar87]

My god man can you stop kissing his arse? I used to respect him and avoided watching any content that criticised him

It isn't me coming in here posting positive news stories every day saying how great he, I'm only responding to your constant barrage of hate filled posts taking the most cynical and critical view of him that you possibly can.

mainly because I am such a SpaceX fan but once your eyes have been opened you can't go back. He isn't quite Elizabeth Holmes but he's been promising things for years and not delivering them.

Could you cite some specific examples?

I'm amazed the SEC hasn't been more on his case with Tesla considering how much he's promised year after year when he knew it wasn't coming any time soon. Promising the market products that you can't deliver that push up share price is illegal and certainly un-ethical.

So he's basically running a company like everyone else then. Release dates of products get pushed back all the time, it's just the nature of business. He also sets pretty lofty goals and is ambitious with his targets, that's one of the reasons he's so successful.

If its so safe how did this car crash? It should have taken over from the guy and stopped the crash? A Musk quote from that story

It's not flawless, humans aren't either. The bar isn't that a system needs to be flawless because no system is. Air travel is incredibly safe, but sometimes things go wrong and the systems and processes become more refined as a result.

I would argue the opposite, they have a moral obligation not to roll out any software they know isn't perfect because it could cost lives. No surprise its illegal to use it in the UK.

https://www.theguardian.com/technol...-landmark-case-man-v-machine?CMP=share_btn_tw

Musk says the system is safer than humans and has been saying that for nearly 8 years, this car magazine disagrees in 2022

Explained and tested: Tesla’s ‘self-driving’ Autopilot

CAR explains and rates Tesla's semi-autonomous tech

www.carmagazine.co.uk

If introducing a system saves more lives than it costs, then why wouldn't you introduce it? Simply because it isn't perfect? I could cite the Covid19 vaccine leading to the deaths of a very small number of people yet saving many more times that, perhaps you'd think we shouldn't have rolled it out because it isn't perfect and could cost lives? It's better than the alternative.

 

[Werewolf]

Time to break out a classic

Yes it's not "on the road" but arguably that should make it even easier for it to avoid hitting the aircraft...

 

[Roar87]

Time to break out a classic

Yes it's not "on the road" but arguably that should make it even easier for it to avoid hitting the aircraft...

I think the car shouldn't hit that plane and it should recognise it as an obstacle to avoid, with that said using your car on self-drive mode in an airport and around a private jet is insanely stupid.

 

[Werewolf]

I think the car shouldn't hit that plane and it should recognise it as an obstacle to avoid, with that said using your car on self-drive mode in an airport and around a private jet is insanely stupid.

It is however meant to be self driving and failed at the most basic level, and yet we're meant to trust it in the far more chaotic and busier situation of an actual road where it, and other vehicles are moving at 60mph+.
It also apparently happens in things like car parks, a place where any vehicle that is described as self driving should have few issues.

 

[StriderX]

Level 5 auto-drive isn't happening until governments ensure the company is liable for any deaths or damages.

 

[dlockers]

using your car on self-drive mode in an airport and around a private jet is insanely stupid.

yOuRe HoLdInG iT wRoNg

 

[Begbie]

This has to be OcUKs most pathetic thread so far, a lot of jealousy kicking about. It's hilarious to watch

Meanwhile, Twitter seems to be doing better than ever before and removing a lot more child porn than ever before too (with less staff). Yet people still seem to want to argue against that, strange strange people.

 

[StriderX]

This has to be OcUKs most pathetic thread so far, a lot of jealousy kicking about. It's hilarious to watch

Meanwhile, Twitter seems to be doing better than ever before and removing a lot more child porn than ever before too (with less staff). Yet people still seem to want to argue against that, strange strange people.

Uhuh with what metrics that are openly available to make such a statement?

Believing the guy who invented hyperbole isn't something I'm willing to do.

 

[VincentHanna]

This has to be OcUKs most pathetic thread so far, a lot of jealousy kicking about. It's hilarious to watch

Meanwhile, Twitter seems to be doing better than ever before and removing a lot more child porn than ever before too (with less staff). Yet people still seem to want to argue against that, strange strange people.

Don't think anybody is arguing against it?!

We just don't trust Elon Musk, because he lies all the time.

Show us the data.

 

[VincentHanna]

You might laugh, but he lied about holding his child in his arms as he died...

 

[[FnG]magnolia]

You might laugh, but he lied about holding his child in his arms as he died...

Did he tweet it?

 

[Begbie]

You might laugh, but he lied about holding his child in his arms as he died...

Some straw clutching there. Wife claims different, oh no. He is obviously massively lying. Probably wasn't even in the room. Probably didn't even watch his son die.

 

[VincentHanna]

Some straw clutching there. Wife claims different, oh no. He is obviously massively lying. Probably wasn't even in the room. Probably didn't even watch his son die.

What's with all the strawman arguments?

I didn't say it wasn't tragic, I didn't say he wasn't in the room.

Why the **** would his wife call him out about that on twitter if she was lying?

 

[[FnG]magnolia]

This has to be OcUKs most pathetic thread so far, a lot of jealousy kicking about. It's hilarious to watch

Meanwhile, Twitter seems to be doing better than ever before and removing a lot more child porn than ever before too (with less staff). Yet people still seem to want to argue against that, strange strange people.

THis is way off the mark I'd imagine. He is obscenely rich so I suppose some people might be envious or jealous of that but his life is a shambles and on top of that he has to deal with people like you who have zero ability to critique (which actually works well for him because he doesn't either).

And Just LOL if child porn on twitter was ever something you cared about in any meaningful way before Musk tweeted its apparent reduction (reduction! why not removal?) to stall the mass exodus of advertisers using his own made-up fairyland metrics which are then spewed further by people who don't critique. You're welcome.

e: noobs.

 

[Begbie]

THis is way off the mark I'd imagine. He is obscenely rich so I suppose some people might be envious or jealous of that but his life is a shambles and on top of that he has to deal with people like you who have zero ability to critique (which actually works well for him because he doesn't either).

And Just LOL if child porn on twitter was ever something you cared about in any meaningful way before Musk tweeted its apparent reduction (reduction! why not removal?) to stall the mass exodus of advertisers using his own made-up fairyland metrics which are then spewed further by people who don't critique. You're welcome.

e: noobs.

You assume a lot.

 

[dowie]

This has to be OcUKs most pathetic thread so far, a lot of jealousy kicking about. It's hilarious to watch

Pretty much, we even had a well Elon hasn't really achieved much post earlier from one of the posters who previously tried to claim he wasn't some anti-Elon type, I suspect that is driving a lot of it, he's a divisive figure.

 

[C Kent]

And Just LOL if child porn on twitter was ever something you cared about in any meaningful way before Musk tweeted its apparent reduction (reduction! why not removal?) to stall the mass exodus of advertisers using his own made-up fairyland metrics which are then spewed further by people who don't critique. You're welcome.

Musk was replying to someone else who tweeted about the removal levels being higher than old twitter.

Just because you  never gave 2 ***** about it doesn't mean than many many other people didn't .

 

[unwashed potato!]

Twitter seems to be doing better than ever

This was my favourite part.

Is Elon the founded yet of twitter or has he not sued to get that title yet?

 

[C Kent]

Pretty much, we even had a well Elon hasn't really achieved much post earlier from one of the posters who previously tried to claim he wasn't some anti-Elon type, I suspect that is driving a lot of it, he's a divisive figure.

He's apparently right wing now, that's the real driving factor.

 

[VincentHanna]

Did he tweet it?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1594552252865384450

Article from 2012, reposted in 2021:

"I Was a Starter Wife": Inside America's Messiest Divorce

In the middle of her headline-grabbing divorce settlement from Elon Musk, Justine Musk reveals the truth about her marriage.

www.marieclaire.com

By the time eBay bought PayPal in 2002, we had moved to Los Angeles and had our first child, a boy named Nevada Alexander. The sale of PayPal vaulted Elon's net worth to well over $100 million. The same week, Nevada went down for a nap, placed on his back as always, and stopped breathing. He was 10 weeks old, the age when male infants are most susceptible to SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome). By the time the paramedics resuscitated him, he had been deprived of oxygen for so long that he was brain-dead. He spent three days on life support in a hospital in Orange County before we made the decision to take him off it. I held him in my arms when he died.