The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

[Roar87]

Just no. This doesn't work. You can't counter a lie once it's spread and done the damage. No amount of debate or facts will convince people of things once it's out there. Brexit, trump, Boris....all were counteracted by facts, all failed to counteract the lies.

There is no reason a private company should allow a free for all on their platform.

It's not about not liking something, it's about not promoting lies.

It couldn't be that those things happened for legitimate reasons, it was all just people being lied to xD Ever think the counter arguments were not only bad, but also lies them self?

 

[unwashed potato!]

it was all just people being lied to

the issue is when you say all the people.

no one thinks all the people voted based on a lie, but enough did. lies were told and enough believed it to vote for leaving. Whether it was significant enough to alter the vote or not is what's up for debate, but it can't be up for debate that lies were told, and people believed them.

 

[Rroff]

It couldn't be that those things happened for legitimate reasons, it was all just people being lied to xD Ever think the counter arguments were not only bad, but also lies them self?

I saw an apt image being shared on social media recently... "Brexit is like watching your library being burned down by people who can't read".

EDIT: The astonishing thing for me with Brexit though is that despite it all, it still hasn't managed to decouple us from the few actually undesirable aspects of the EU we wouldn't be sorry to be shot of like some of the proposed daft car regulations, etc.

 

[Energize]

He did it deliberately, it's not hard to avoid a dowie hole, other posters in this thread have engaged in actual arguments and paid attention to what was said.

If you're going to throw in dumb replies that demonstrate you've not actually read or understood the argument being made or seemingly misrepresent it then you'll get a reply pointing that out.

It's certainly not as bad as a Murphy hole where one's positions are ceaselessly misrepresented

 

[Scougar]

So confused by the "left Wing" comments. I haven't met anyone that even gives a hoot about it lol. Literally just media outlets and people making jokes.

 

[VincentHanna]

Well there you have it, he wants to charge business and governments to use it, verify everyone, and sell it off on the stock market again once it's generating more revenue.

UK MPs invite Musk to be quizzed on Twitter plans

It comes amid concerns about the billionaire's plans to relax content moderation rules on the platform.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Hagar]

Well there you have it, he wants to charge business and governments to use it, verify everyone, and sell it off on the stock market again once it's generating more revenue.

UK MPs invite Musk to be quizzed on Twitter plans

It comes amid concerns about the billionaire's plans to relax content moderation rules on the platform.

www.bbc.co.uk

That sounds like a good thing. The commercial user pays rather than just relying on Ad income. Provides a secure equable system.

 

[wesimmo]

There's a certain irony that the posters that advocate for lies being able to be put out there, because people are able to discern what is the truth and act accordingly, are the ones who constantly prove that isn't true.

 

[Irish_Tom]

So confused by the "left Wing" comments. I haven't met anyone that even gives a hoot about it lol. Literally just media outlets and people making jokes.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1518702084048179200

Plus all the crying by Twitter staff when it was announced (and let's not forget, they are 99% lefty).

Ironically, it seems the "Left Wing Meltdown" is almost exclusively on Twitter, and no one would take anything on Twitter seriously. Right?

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

He did it deliberately, it's not hard to avoid a dowie hole, other posters in this thread have engaged in actual arguments and paid attention to what was said.

If you're going to throw in dumb replies that demonstrate you've not actually read or understood the argument being made or seemingly misrepresent it then you'll get a reply pointing that out.

Give it a rest dowie, its just boring now. I bet you've never once admitted you were wrong, probably a point of pride for you. It really is nothing to be proud of.

 

[MadMossy]

Wait weren't the left wing crying when other people called for big tech regulation/accountability, yet now that someone else controls the platform they are like yep lock that **** down or democracy is in danger.

I also think a subscription model for businesses on the platform would be a good, it doesn't even need to be much, could be something like $1 a month, from every business/corperate users that's still a significant chunk of change.

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

It couldn't be that those things happened for legitimate reasons, it was all just people being lied to xD Ever think the counter arguments were not only bad, but also lies them self?

You only had to witness what the Plandemic video did in a few days. A well produced video (for the anti vax crowd) and it was everywhere within a 3 or 4 days and people believed it. Of course it was a bunch of lies but that didn't matter, the general public as a whole are gullible idiots, advertisers know this, politicians know this. Lies spread around the world while the truth is still picking which trainers to put on. Before social media it wasn't a huge problem, now it is a HUGE problem, it can be argued its already bitten us in the arse but there is much much worse in the pipeline. Something will happen that will be used by those in power to massively overreach and pass draconian laws regarding free speech on social media that make current social media moderation look like 4chan moderation.

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

Wait weren't the left wing crying when other people called for big tech regulation/accountability, yet now that someone else controls the platform they are like yep lock that **** down or democracy is in danger.

I also think a subscription model for businesses on the platform would be a good, it doesn't even need to be much, could be something like $1 a month, from every business/corperate users that's still a significant chunk of change.

When were the left wing crying about big tech being regulated? I'm not left wing but I'd have no issue with big tech being regulated if done sensibly. I'd also support the likes of Facebook being broken up, its too big and too powerful.

 

[unwashed potato!]

Wait weren't the left wing crying when other people called for big tech regulation/accountability

You have a funny memory.

What you've (almost definitely purposefully) forgotten, is that trump was "crying", Marjorie green was "crying" as you put it.

The left said it was fine that if someone's going to incite an insurrection that they are banned.

Funny how you have it that baby trump wasn't crying while he was being blocked and text added to his lies, and have it that the left were crying because they said this is correct.

Do you find that often?

 

[Roar87]

You only had to witness what the Plandemic video did in a few days. A well produced video (for the anti vax crowd) and it was everywhere within a 3 or 4 days and people believed it. Of course it was a bunch of lies but that didn't matter, the general public as a whole are gullible idiots, advertisers know this, politicians know this. Lies spread around the world while the truth is still picking which trainers to put on. Before social media it wasn't a huge problem, now it is a HUGE problem, it can be argued its already bitten us in the arse but there is much much worse in the pipeline. Something will happen that will be used by those in power to massively overreach and pass draconian laws regarding free speech on social media that make current social media moderation look like 4chan moderation.

So I think your view is that people are too stupid to have free speech so need protecting, you would probably feel very at home in somewhere like China or North Korea. Have you considered moving to either of those places rather than try and turn the UK into that hell?

 

[unwashed potato!]

So I think your view is that people are too stupid to have free speech so need protecting, you would probably feel very at home in somewhere like China or North Korea. Have you considered moving to either of those places rather than try and turn the UK into that hell?

That isn't his view.

Have you tried moving to those places before you make such a stupid comment?

Do you know what people in North Korea actually live like? Their suffering etc? And you so casually use their suffering to make a lame sad little man point.


Congrats on being a stand up decent person this morning.

 

[wesimmo]

So I think your view is that people are too stupid to have free speech so need protecting, you would probably feel very at home in somewhere like China or North Korea. Have you considered moving to either of those places rather than try and turn the UK into that hell?

This is such a ridiculous argument.

Places like China suppress the truth, what is being advocated is suppressing lies.

 

[Deleted member 77746]

everyone stop crying - wait till you all see what happens. Deals not even done yet for crying out loud.

 

[Roar87]

That isn't his view.

Have you tried moving to those places before you make such a stupid comment?

Do you know what people in North Korea actually live like? Their suffering etc? And you so casually use their suffering to make a lame sad little man point.


Congrats on being a stand up decent person this morning.

Oh no, the moral Police are back! Sorry, did I offend you?! Please, let me delete my post immediately! I'm so sorry your feelings were hurt! /s

 

[unwashed potato!]

Well there's a shocker.