The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

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A lot of people that voted for brexit like myself were not paying attention to "the lies" and knew the actual implementation would be disastrous, so bleating on about it serves no actual purpose other than to reinforce the leave perspective even more to a typical voter. Ironically it has the opposite effect to what a lot of remainers believe.

It's kind of irrelevant what you think, that is the attitude of the typical voter on any given issue, so it's counterproductive to complain about it, but as someone who voted for brexit people like you are keeping support for it strong so I welcome it.

"I knew it was going to be disastrous but it upsets people I don't like so it's worth it."

What a **** attitude. :rolleyes:
 

Plus all the crying by Twitter staff when it was announced (and let's not forget, they are 99% lefty).

Ironically, it seems the "Left Wing Meltdown" is almost exclusively on Twitter, and no one would take anything on Twitter seriously. Right?

I actually hadn't seen that by Warren lol. I'm not really sure why they have such an issue. They aren't bulking at Jeff Bezoooooooos. For example Jeff makes a comment about China getting more power by Elon having twitter, whilst Jeff makes stupendous money from selling China's wears on his platform. No no one complains at that.

The left/right thing is so out of control. Politicians like it this way. But it doesn't benefit the people.
 
"I knew it was going to be disastrous but it upsets people I don't like so it's worth it."

What a **** attitude. :rolleyes:

How awful to vote for something I think is best for the country based on the opinion of expert economists. :cry: Remainers tears are the most delicious of them all tbh though so if I were going back in time I would vote leave just to upset you.
 
I think that people need to be more trusting of humanity bit also more discriminatory of information that they receive. Misinformation (or fake news) is as old as mankind and cannot normal be weeded out even by legislation. So appointing an unelected selection of peers to do that is fraught with risk.
 
How awful to vote for something I think is best for the country based on the opinion of expert economists.

Other than Miniford, I can't think of any economists who suggested Brexit would be anything other than disastrous. You even said you knew it would be disastrous and yet you still think it's best for the country. So either your rational for "best for the country" can't be based on the opinion of expert economists or you actually wanted it to be disastrous and you believe that will somehow pan out as being for the best. Either way, it's a bit odd.

:cry: Remainers tears are the most delicious of them all tbh though so if I were going back in time I would vote leave just to upset you.

Like I said, a **** attitude. Quite sad really.
 
Other than Miniford, I can't think of any economists who suggested Brexit would be anything other than disastrous. You even said you knew it would be disastrous and yet you still think it's best for the country. So either your rational for "best for the country" can't be based on the opinion of expert economists or you actually wanted it to be disastrous and you believe that will somehow pan out as being for the best. Either way, it's a bit odd.



Like I said, a **** attitude. Quite sad really.

Wow, this is even more bad faith than SC, the challenge has been upped. I need to get a "remainers tears" tumbler, wonder if I could commission one from Ben Shapiro?
 
Lets not forget the biden administrations "ministry of truth", its almost like they are taking it straight out of orwells 1984.

That must make the various CIA Blacksites where people the USA doesn’t like get sent via “extraordinary rendition“ branches of The Ministry Of Love.

If someone in the year 2000 received a chronicle of the the events between 2010 - 2022 and published said chronicle as a work of fiction, publishing houses would have rejected it as being too far fetched to be believable.
 
Wow, this is even more bad faith than SC, the challenge has been upped.

I'm just quoting back to you what you've written. If you think I've misinterpreted or misrepresented what you actually mean then feel free to correct me over in the Brexit thread so as not to take this one further off topic. :)
 
I think that people need to be more trusting of humanity bit also more discriminatory of information that they receive. Misinformation (or fake news) is as old as mankind and cannot normal be weeded out even by legislation. So appointing an unelected selection of peers to do that is fraught with risk.

I think this is the problem. As a society we are fundamentally raised to be selfish, narcissistic and entirely out for ourselves in our lifetime. We don't even give a **** about our childrens future anymore.

Technology has allowed companies to control the information people see, the products they buy and to push the agenda they want. If you want to see where the world is heading, look at what the fastest growing tech companies offer. TikTok is a great example. Its core is just vacuous young men and women who are attractive doing stupid things for attention. Its not even well done most of the time. The acting is awful. The punchlines can be seen a mile off and most of it is obnoxiously fake.

Its all about attention and short sharp dopamine hits. Its about having everyone look at you. Its about your worth being decided by faceless strangers who only appreciate you because of your looks. Its just sad.

We can't trust humanity because humans are too stupid and easily manipulated into doing things that are fundamentally counterproductive to themselves. The Conservatives have been in power for years now despite causing massive amounts of damage to the country in countless ways. Labour are still not cleaning up because the Conservatives are far better at manipulating people.
 
I'm just quoting back to you what you've written. If you think I've misinterpreted or misrepresented what you actually mean then feel free to correct me over in the Brexit thread so as not to take this one further off topic. :)

I think supporting Ukraine against Russia is bad for the economy, I think lock down was bad for the economy, maybe decisions aren't always based on the economy though. Presumably if we made ourselves a vassal state of China or America it might be good for our economy but most people wouldn't want that.
 
That sounds like a good thing. The commercial user pays rather than just relying on Ad income. Provides a secure equable system.
Great as a business but it would open a whole can of worms on whether Twitter would bias decisions based on an account having a subscription or not rather than the current thinking that all accounts are equal/"equal" (however you want to think it).

To be honest, i think Elon needs to be careful about peeing around with Twitter too much as it could cause another platform, or newcomer, to make headway.

Personally I don't think one man should own a social media platform - its high time that social media was properly regulated - its got far more power than traditional media now with almost zero accountability
Most sensible thing said in this thread....
 
Most sensible thing said in this thread....

It's kinda moot tbh.. He need not worry as one man won’t own it if this deal goes through. Elon will have several partners/co-owners (and seems to be happy for some of them to take more equity) not to mention the deal proposed is that every shareholder gets bought out except for the top 2000 shareholders who can elect to keep their holding.

So it's really one man + other investment partners + up to 2000 other entities/people etc..
 
So I think your view is that people are too stupid to have free speech so need protecting, you would probably feel very at home in somewhere like China or North Korea. Have you considered moving to either of those places rather than try and turn the UK into that hell?

See you claim to be on the moral/intelligent side of arguments and that the other side are reactionary etc etc but then you reply like that. You are either a fool and have no understanding or you are being knowingly obtuse.

No I did not say people are too stupid to have free speech. I said there is a problem that is going to get worse with bad actors using social media to lie to the public for their own ends. This isn't about you going on social media and claiming to have a 10" ****, no one cares about that obvious lie. Plandemic was an example of the damage that can be done and its damage that will be with us for years, as many people will never believe its all lies. Anti vax was a niche movement, now its mainstream thanks to social media. A lot of kids won't get any vaccines and children will die or be left with life changing medical issues from diseases like measles. That is just a taste of what is to come. Look how bad it has got in way less than a generation. Governments and bad actors are only beginning to use this new media to their advantage. You want unfettered free speech, welcome ISIS back to Twitter and YouTube and groups like them. No one is saying ban free speech or anything even along those lines, but if you want main stream social media to be like 4chan then expect things in society to get a lot lot worse in the very near future.

Personally I don't think one man should own a social media platform - its high time that social media was properly regulated - its got far more power than traditional media now with almost zero accountability

^^ This this and this again. Regulate and break up the companies.
 
I think supporting Ukraine against Russia is bad for the economy, I think lock down was bad for the economy, maybe decisions aren't always based on the economy though. Presumably if we made ourselves a vassal state of China or America it might be good for our economy but most people wouldn't want that.

Sure, you can argue that economic implications (in any scenario) need to be weighed up against non-economic factors and make a judgement call.

@Energize said that he made his decision based on the opinion of expert economists. He said that he knew it would be disastrous (which is what 99% of expert economists predicted). He also said that he believes it's what's best for the country.

So we have to assume that he believes Brexit will be best for the country despite it being disastrous economically. As such, those non-economic benefits must be significant to make them "for the best". Collecting "Delicious ******** Tears" is a pretty weak counter to "disastrous economic impact".
 
How awful to vote for something I think is best for the country based on the opinion of expert economists. :cry: Remainers tears are the most delicious of them all tbh though so if I were going back in time I would vote leave just to upset you.
you will of course be able to provide at least one reference to a credible expert economist that supports your opinion?


Rather seems like you believed in lies
 
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