The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

[Irish_Tom]

"Turns out he's not antifa" isn't really relevant, you don't seem to have been able to decouple that from the issue as it presents itself.

This is literally the only relevant point to everyone else in this thread.

Once again, the rest of your post is arguing about something that no one else is debating.

Typical dowiehole.

 

[Feek]

Change your associated email, account name (to Elon is a ****") and profile picture, them forget about it?

Thanks but not helpful.

 

[visibleman]

Is it possible to entirely delete my Twitter content without paying one of these apps/websites to do it? I have over 3,200 tweets so all the ones I can find say I need to pay them.

Soaster and use the free trial; only issue is that you have sign-up.
I'm sure Tweetdeck/Twitter desktop app allowed you to select multiple tweets and delete them but it's been years since i've used it.

 

[dowie]

This is literally the only relevant point to everyone else in this thread.

Once again, the rest of your post is arguing about something that no one else is debating.

Utter BS Tom you're the one arguing points that haven't been made I pointed out what he looks like (again he's dressed all in black with a face covering on in his own car and it's not some covid mask either!), I even clarified this multiple times why ignore that and just argue something else?

As for the rest that's BS too; people disputed that the police were called, people disputed that the plates were temporary I even pointed out an example of a California license plate and still got further denials and of course there were the suggestions that it's just a random person... again total nonsense, this wasn't a random person.

There have been continual denials and then sure enough he turns out to be a crazy stalker as was already obviously likely from the start and yes the police were called.

If you're going to dispute things then later claim a "dowiehole" it would help if you try to read and understand what I've actually said instead of just resorting to the usual dumb straw man arguments, it's no good moaning when most of the replies have been people either throwing in arguments against claims that haven't been made or coming out with claims that are clearly nonsense (and have indeed been shown to be nonsense from the new information that has come out re: the incident).

 

[JRS]

I mean this is it... I mean assuming that you're joking there but people have been clutching at straws here.

Uh huh.

So, there's a couple of scenarios as I see it:

1) a radical leftie antifa type tracked Elon using flight tracking, then somehow found and attacked a car carrying Elon's son.
2) a nutter obsessed with the 'musician' mother of Elon's child tracked her using good old fashioned stalking, and attacked a car carrying Elon's son.

Is 2) not a teensy bit more likely?

And once you accept that 2) is more likely, is it also not quite likely that instead of being an antifa type the guy was dressed to avoid easy identification precisely because he's a stalker?

 

[Richard - London]

Uh huh.

So, there's a couple of scenarios as I see it:

1) a radical leftie antifa type tracked Elon using flight tracking, then somehow found and attacked a car carrying Elon's son.
2) a nutter obsessed with the 'musician' mother of Elon's child tracked her using good old fashioned stalking, and attacked a car carrying Elon's son.

Is 2) not a teensy bit more likely?

And once you accept that 2) is more likely, is it also not quite likely that instead of being an antifa type the guy was dressed to avoid easy identification precisely because he's a stalker?

No? 1 is fair more likely?

 

[dowie]

Uh huh.

So, there's a couple of scenarios as I see it:

1) a radical leftie antifa type tracked Elon using flight tracking, then somehow found and attacked a car carrying Elon's son.
2) a nutter obsessed with the 'musician' mother of Elon's child tracked her using good old fashioned stalking, and attacked a car carrying Elon's son.

Is 2) not a teensy bit more likely?

And once you accept that 2) is more likely, is it also not quite likely that instead of being an antifa type the guy was dressed to avoid easy identification precisely because he's a stalker?

What does that have to do with either what I said or indeed some nonsense comment about the heater?

Maybe the heater's broke?

Of course, he's dressed to avoid identification, that was literally the point, the security team has seen a guy in antifa style disguise, in a car with temporary plates, that's bound to spook them.

Again whether or not he actually is antifa or a member of another group or a stalker wasn't the point (or indeed whether the jet tracker was used) - I was referring to what he looked like and what it appeared like and why it was concerning while others were making denials about the police even being called or hypothesizing it was just some random encounter (sure... with a guy wearing a non-covid face covering by himself in a car!)

 

[visibleman]

...you've just highlighted people in dark hoodies (and no face coverings)...

...this guy in a dark hoodie and face covering (clearly not a Covid mask either) he's by himself in his car why does he need a face covering? He's dressed in the way an Antifa/Black bloc type does to avoid being recognised...

So black hoodie + black hat is fine but, black hoodie + black hat + a black face covering, they're definitely Antifa/Black Bloc?

No and that isn't what I said, though you guys do seem to have really poor reading comprehension.

Claim:

dressed up in an antifa style outfit

Evidence:
Here are some Antifa/black Bloc people:

Here is how the person was dressed:

At what point in clothing someone becomes Antifa @dowie?

Although you say everyone else should go to Specsavers and can't read but it looks like on set dementia here @dowie; you should get that docs appointment scheduled!

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

At what point in clothing someone becomes Antifa @dowie?

Although you say everyone else should go to Specsavers and can't read but it looks like on set dementia here @dowie; you should get that docs appointment scheduled!

More importantly when do you pass Antifa and become full goth?

 

[Irish_Tom]

Utter BS Tom you're the one arguing points that haven't been made I pointed out what he looks like (again he's dressed all in black with a face covering on in his own car and it's not some covid mask either!), I even clarified this multiple times why ignore that and just argue something else?

No one has denied that he was dressed in a similar style to Antifa. They are saying that despite this, they don’t think he is Antifa and that it’s just coincidence.

As for the rest that's BS too; people disputed that the police were called, people disputed that the plates were temporary I even pointed out an example of a California license plate and still got further denials and there there were the suggestions that it's just a random person...

Subplots within the wider discussion about whether he was Antifa or not. The guy arguing about the licence plate even conceded that he was looking at it on his phone and made a mistake.

Again total nonsense, this wasn't a random person.

Crazy stalker = random person in the context of him being Antifa or not.

There have been continual denials and then sure enough, of course, he turns out to be a crazy stalker as was already obviously likely from the start and yes the police were called.

Literally no one has argued that he isn’t a crazy stalker. Everyone has being saying that it’s more likely that he was a crazy stalker than Antifa. That’s literally the argument.

 

[visibleman]

More importantly when do you pass Antifa and become full goth?

 

[i-bert]

It's a logical assumption, given that the left are having a meltdown over Elon at the moment.

 

[Irish_Tom]

ITT:

Musk: ElonJet is sharing my live location and providing assassination coordinates for me and my family — this crazy stalker jumped on my car.

Elon Fanboys: I bet it was Antifa.

Everyone else: I doubt it has anything to do with the ElonJet account and I bet the guy isn’t Antifa.

Dowie: but he is dressed like Antifa.

Everyone else: So what… I bet it’s just coincidence.

Newspaper: It wasn’t anything to do with ElonJet and and the guy wasn’t Antifa.

Dowie: it’s got nothing to do with whether he was actually Antifa or not.

 

[dowie]

No one has denied that he was dressed in a similar style to Antifa. They are saying that despite this, they don’t think he is Antifa and that it’s just coincidence.

What does that have to do with my posts?

Subplots within the wider discussion about whether he was Antifa or not. The guy arguing about the licence plate even conceded that he was looking at it on his phone and made a mistake.

Yes afterward... so don't try and claim that some straw man about Antifa is the only thing being argued here there were multiple denials in this thread which have been addressed.

Crazy stalker = random person in the context of him being Antifa or not.

Him being antifa or not wasn't the point though! Him not being a random person was the point!

 

[visibleman]

Him being antifa or not wasn't the point though!

 

[dowie]

ITT:

Musk: ElonJet is sharing my live location and providing assassination coordinates for me and my family — this crazy stalker jumped on my car.

Elon Fanboys: I bet it was Antifa.

Everyone else: I doubt it has anything to do with the ElonJet account and I bet the guy isn’t Antifa.

Dowie: but he is dressed like Antifa.

Everyone else: So what… I bet it’s just coincidence.

Newspaper: It wasn’t anything to do with ElonJet and and the guy wasn’t Antifa.

Dowie: it’s got nothing to do with whether he was actually Antifa or not.

Sure, just makeup straw man arguments all over again.

Denials the police were called, implications the incident was fake/Elon doesn't want a felony for a fake report. Denials the plates were temporary.

People not grasping the point re: the Antifa style disguise/outfit - the guy was literally wearing a face covering too but instead I just got replies fixated on dark hoodies.

And even now when it's been pointed out that whether or not he was in fact Antifa or not wasn't the point you still try and make out like it was as though it was part of that claim somehow.

Why not discuss what I've actually argued when you're quoting me instead of just throwing in badly thought-out BS and then claiming a "dowiehole"?

 

[mattx4]

people disputed that the plates were temporary I even pointed out an example of a California license plate and still got further denials

That was my bad but temp tags are not anything nefarious (unless fake) just means it's a new car.

 

[Jono8]

Him being antifa or not wasn't the point though! Him not being a random person was the point!

Just thought you would chuck that in there then...because?

You got the irrational Antifa heebie jeebies because you read too much of the wrong **** on social media?

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

So it wasn't just some manufactured incident, it clearly did occur, some lunatic stalker who is a bit obsessed with Musk and Grimes was present it doesn't seem to have been random either - this guy who believes Grimes is communicating with him just happened to turn up by sheer chance in his antifa/black block style outfit?

No but it wasn't ElonJet giving out assassination coordinates to this stalker either.

Give the antifa line a rest dowie. Yes you hoped he'd turn out to be the boogeyman that is antifa and you'd be gloating now but he isn't and you were so wrong.

In case you're not trolling the point is that Elon is being partially tracked and Elon is a target for Antifa. This clearly wasn't a random encounter, this guy in a dark hoodie and face covering (clearly not a Covid mask either) he's by himself in his car why does he need a face covering? He's dressed in the way an Antifa/Black bloc type does to avoid being recognised + has temporary plates on... and it's not a random encounter, he's clearly some sort of stalker. Put all that together and that's obviously going to spook the security team and Elon.

Is he? Going to need some evidence on that one.

Of course it isn't a random encounter, he's stalking Grimes. That was his target, not Elon and his assassination worries.

 

[dowie]

That was my bad but temp tags are not anything nefarious (unless fake) just means it's a new car.

They don't have to be, the context is important again people don't seem to be able to decouple from just taking some default anti-Elon position and see why this was concerning.

Default plates aren't by themselves nefarious, neither is wearing a dark hoodie... this incident involved a guy turning up with a dark hoodie and face covering (while inside a car!!!) and temporary plates... that's what made it look iffy. Combine that with threats from antifa, Elon's jet being tracked etc..

That doesn't mean he was antifa or indeed some other similar group, the point is why it was concerning and what it looks like given that the security team is likely alert to threats from that very group!

Just thought you would chuck that in there then...because?

Because of the reasons already given, it's simple enough to follow.