The ongoing Elon Twitter saga: "insert demographic" melts down

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Can those apps be used to circumvent adverts?
I don't know, but if that's the "reasoning" behind it, expect him to block people using web browsers to access it as well as it's extremely simply to block adverts via web browswers.

That change has already started to drive off some of the remaining content creators who were on Twitter, as twitters own tools are junk for a lot of things, and musk seems to be breaking the ones that were there/changing how they work at random.

So I guess he's going to want more of those $8/11 subs to make up for the advertisers he's driven off, and the content creators who drew in the users to see the adverts, meanwhile it appears he's no longer got the team that checked "promoted tweets" were within twitters TOS, so there are promoted tweets showing up where the user has been banned or twitter moderation (or what's left of it) have removed the contents of the tweet.
 
It's at fault because it stopped suddenly for no reason. If a driver did the same thing they'd likely be prosecuted in the UK.

That is a good point. Just deciding to emergency stop on a busy motorway for no reason is potentially dangerous. However, if you emergency stopped for a genuine reason, someone running into the back of you is no one's fault but the person behind. One of the main things you are taught when driving is to always leave enough stopping distance for that eventuality (ie enough reaction time), and that it should be increased with adverse weather etc.

This is where the whole self driving thing is/will be a legal minefield.
 
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Twitter has adverts? I joined in April 2010 and I've never seen an advert.

If I open the Twitter app on my phone I can see "Promoted Tweets". Circumventing advertising could be the reason, since that's effectively your price of entry for using their service.
 
So I guess he's going to want more of those $8/11 subs to make up for the advertisers he's driven off, and the content creators who drew in the users to see the adverts, meanwhile it appears he's no longer got the team that checked "promoted tweets" were within twitters TOS, so there are promoted tweets showing up where the user has been banned or twitter moderation (or what's left of it) have removed the contents of the tweet.


Twitter has always been somewhat chaotic, but new CEO Elon Musk is taking it to a whole new level. He's been making dramatic changes since he bought the company for $44 billion on Oct. 27, including laying off half the staff; changing moderation and verification policies; and unbanning extremist accounts.

Here's the most recent news about Musk's takeover of Twitter:

Jan. 11: Twitter considers selling user names​

Twitter employees discussed selling some user names, but it's still unclear if the company will move forward with this idea, The New York Times reported.

Last month, Musk said he would start getting rid of inactive accounts and that would free up 1.5 billion user names. User names that feature popular words can be valuable. Hackers have taken over Twitter accounts in the past to sell them on the black market.

Twitter didn't respond to a request for comment.
 
Looks like he's chucked the toys out of the pram and blocked access for third-party apps via their API. That's a big killer for me - I used Tweetbot to access Twitter to avoid all the clutter, ads, and recommended follows etc.
I use Fenix on android. It was excellent.

Just tried the official twitter and and its horrible in comparison. Timeline is full or irrelevant junk and post times are not clear etc

I take it the API access is probably gone for good?
 
If I open the Twitter app on my phone I can see "Promoted Tweets". Circumventing advertising could be the reason, since that's effectively your price of entry for using their service.
I've never seen promoted tweets either. I didn't realise twitter had adverts or promoted tweets so I guess that means that the app must be blocking them, I genuinely didn't realise that. I think I used the official twitter app for about a year before I switched over to Tweetbot so I can only assume there were no adverts back then.

If the API is gone forever, it'll kill off the third party apps and he'll lose a lot of users.
 
I've never seen promoted tweets either. I didn't realise twitter had adverts or promoted tweets so I guess that means that the app must be blocking them, I genuinely didn't realise that. I think I used the official twitter app for about a year before I switched over to Tweetbot so I can only assume there were no adverts back then.

If the API is gone forever, it'll kill off the third party apps and he'll lose a lot of users.

Well, from a business pov he'd basically be losing "free users", but maybe in the medium term they'll find a middle ground.
 
Well, from a business pov he'd basically be losing "free users", but maybe in the medium term they'll find a middle ground.
No, it's really not that simple. You have been told it many times before, and I really can't be bothered to explain again to you that twitter users are more than just "users" to twitter.

I hope you're capable of understanding that stephan King is not just a user of twitter, nor is j k Rowling, Boris Johnson, kim kardashian etc. Twitter don't "just lose free users" by removing free users.

Given your love for Elon, why do you want him to continue to fail?
 
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That is a good point. Just deciding to emergency stop on a busy motorway for no reason is potentially dangerous. However, if you emergency stopped for a genuine reason, someone running into the back of you is no one's fault but the person behind. One of the main things you are taught when driving is to always leave enough stopping distance for that eventuality (ie enough reaction time), and that it should be increased with adverse weather etc.

This is where the whole self driving thing is/will be a legal minefield.

I agree and I'm not absolving the drivers of the vehicles behind of responsibility, my reply was in response to someone questioning why the Tesla (and as far as I'm concerned, it's driver) was at fault.

These systems, the drivers and the road networks clearly aren't ready for it and it's wrong that especially in the US, lawmakers are allowing vehicle manufacturers to use public roads as test tracks.
 
Not techie enough to know but could this API thing be associated with improving security?
unlikely, or at least normally if you were going to break something that a lot of your userbase and paying customers relied on you'd at least issue a statement.

But then from what i've heard most of the vaunted twitter blue features don't work and musk and his remaining (mainly visa restricted) programmers at twitter don't seem to have been doing very well with keeping people informed of changes that will affect them, or maintaining existing features before rolling out untested changes (after all the QC and testing people aren't hardcore programmers who write hundreds of lines of code whilst asleep, they just make sure the code works).
 
Only just noticed the web version has been changed to the new recommended feed, couple of days after iOS got them:


There's no way to change the default back to "Following" which is chronological, but managed to find a Firefox add-on to set the default: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/tweak-new-twitter/

Talon/Fenix is still not working... I'll most likely just use Firefox Beta with the above add-on to access the site once the update rolls out for Android.
 
I agree and I'm not absolving the drivers of the vehicles behind of responsibility, my reply was in response to someone questioning why the Tesla (and as far as I'm concerned, it's driver) was at fault.

Why is the driver at fault if the tesla caused it?

Suppose a regular (otherwise well-serviced and reasonably assumed to be roadworthy) car has a fault (tire blowout or the engine bursts into flames and the driver's view is immediately obscured) and the driver performs an emergency stop are they at fault there if others are following too closely?

Surely if there is a fault with the car that the driver isn't to blame for and others are tailgating/not keeping a reasonable min distance behind then that's on them.

If a regular type of car has some design or manufacturing fault causing spontaneous fires then the manufacturer is at fault and perhaps needs to recall that type or certain models within that type for a fix, if a tesla has a software fault then it seems tesla is at fault and perhaps needs a software update/fix.
 
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Tweetbot no longer working is awful, the Twitter app is comparatively dire. :(

I hope they can get it sorted, but I think this is very deliberate...

Musk will kill Twitter at this rate.
 
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