Azagoth said:What do you expect from a Nazi? Just remember, Nazi's used to go around dressed in black and telling people what to do, whereas Catholic Priests.............
Like to hang around children?
Azagoth said:What do you expect from a Nazi? Just remember, Nazi's used to go around dressed in black and telling people what to do, whereas Catholic Priests.............
Calling him a Nazi doesn't seem fair...Azagoth said:What do you expect from a Nazi? Just remember, Nazi's used to go around dressed in black and telling people what to do, whereas Catholic Priests.............
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Benedict_XVIFollowing his fourteenth birthday in 1941, Ratzinger was enrolled in the Hitler Youth — membership being legally required after December 1939[4] — but was an unenthusiastic member and refused to attend meetings[5]. His father was a bitter enemy of Nazism, believing it conflicted with the Catholic faith. In 1941, one of Ratzinger's cousins, a 14-year-old boy with Down syndrome, was killed by the Nazi regime in its campaign of eugenics. In 1943 while still in seminary, he was drafted at age 16 into the German anti-aircraft corps. Ratzinger then trained in the German infantry, but a subsequent illness precluded him from the usual rigours of military duty. As the Allied front drew closer to his post in 1945, he deserted back to his family's home in Traunstein after his unit had ceased to exist, just as American troops established their headquarters in the Ratzinger household. As a German soldier, he was put in a POW camp but was released a few months later at the end of the War in summer 1945. He reentered the seminary, along with his brother Georg, in November of that year.
Doing those things didn't make you a Nazi.Biohazard said:Did he wear the uniform? Salute the flag?
Hail Hitler? Stick his scrawny wee arm out for a salute?
If any of the above, should veto your sorry ass out of being the Pope.
dirtydog said:Doing those things didn't make you a Nazi.
Azagoth said:What do you expect from a Nazi? Just remember, Nazi's used to go around dressed in black and telling people what to do, whereas Catholic Priests.............
Being a member of the Nazi party or sharing Nazi ideology - something which millions of Germans were not and did not.Biohazard said:What makes you a Nazi then?
dirtydog said:Being a member of the Nazi party or sharing Nazi ideology - something which millions of Germans were not and did not.
I can't answer that fully without going into a lot of detail which is off topic for this thread Suffice to say that while I do have some admiration or respect for Hitler, and the German military in WW2, ultimately he and the Nazis were a complete disaster both for Germany and for Europe. Hitler made many bad political and military decisions which ended up leading his country to ruin, and yet he and other Nazis like Goebbels blamed not themselves but the German people - who sacrificed so much because of them. Germany still suffers the effects even today, for example having a neutered military capability.Zip said:What do you think of the Nazis?
Just curious
dirtydog said:I can't answer that fully without going into a lot of detail which is off topic for this thread
Nickg said:aye, thats why i hate religion. they ALL believe that they are the true religion, therefore eery other religion and follower to be inferior or unsalvable!
if there was one true god, why would he have asked so many different groups to worship him in such different ways? leads me to believe there is no god.
oh and that man is devious beyond redemption.
Nickg said:aye, thats why i hate religion. they ALL believe that they are the true religion, therefore eery other religion and follower to be inferior or unsalvable!
if there was one true god, why would he have asked so many different groups to worship him in such different ways? leads me to believe there is no god.
oh and that man is devious beyond redemption.
Broaden that to encompass all Abrahamic religions: where, in reality, do you think the conflicts in Jerusalem and Moslem anti-Semitism etc. stem from?manoz said:Actually afaik, it's only Christianity and Islam which believe they are the true religion.
He didn't. Only Jews, Christians and Moslems worship the same God in a metaphysical sense, and even here we have a distinct timeline; they're simply different branches due to human deviation and interpretation and, arguably, as human will and a lust for salvation allows. Not all were devised or handed down by God from the outset as your statement suggests.Nickg said:if there was one true god, why would he have asked so many different groups to worship him in such different ways? leads me to believe there is no god.
big_white_dog84 said:The catholic church is a dangerous organization. I strongly agree with the Act of Settlement keeping catholics off the throne. We don't want to have the pope having any influence whatsoever over someone who has the ability to block laws passed by democratically elected people.