The rise and normalisation of OnlyFans

shallow it may be but its at least true in part. yes you are right it isnt always roses and wine for decent people who happen to be physically attractive as well.

but if you are good looking and successful chances are you just are aiming high and you can always have a reconsideration on that if you want companionship.

if however you are not blessed with good looks, and have some issues which many consider a turn off, and already happy to date anyone regardless of looks being less choosy may not be an option.

for years in my earlier life i was in the friend zone of a few women i really liked.... and whilst i never said it too them, it was really frustrating after a while of being the shoulder to cry on when they dated always the same type of bloke who ultimately treated them like dirt (treat em mean, keep em keen before ultimately ditching them)............................ and you could see it coming a mile off. I would never have acted like that but they would not have considered dating me in a million years (i know i tried a few times)

its like the old addage money does not buy you happiness............. whilst technically it may be true, it does remove a huge amount of the barriers to happiness and makes the journey to a stress free happy life a lot easier.......
What you're describing is a confidence issue, it has nothing to do with being a "low status male". We're not chimpanzees.
 
for years in my earlier life i was in the friend zone of a few women i really liked
never hang around when you're in the friend zone dude. move on, you were only torturing yourself. never understood men who'd been friend zoned but were still all pally pally with women they fancied. you didn't want them as a friend so why maintain the friendship once you realised that was all it was going to be?!
 
I remember being a kid in the 80s and all the parents would sit on a wall watching us play, now I don't even know my neighbours names, I bet most people don't.

Out street has a WhatsApp group which I feel helps a lot. Also, it's a bit of a large cul de sac so you see the parents out playing cricket with the kids. It's about making an effort with each other
 
Indeed it does and its only increasing.

The type of guys who subscribe to OF are not just looking for a quick rub out; they receive so little attention in the real world that they are willing to pay for some false type of connection from a stranger.

Imagine in about a decade or so when they bring out some kind of Blade runner 2049 style A.I GF so many of these low status men will not even bother trying at all with women as that will be enough to give them the sense that someone actually cares for them.

lol that is exactly what will happen, be a bit like that scene with Del and the blowup doll in only fools and horses with guys stepping out on the town arm in arm with they robot ai gfs
 
lol that is exactly what will happen, be a bit like that scene with Del and the blowup doll in only fools and horses with guys stepping out on the town arm in arm with they robot ai gfs

LOL, looking at some of the bints wandering the town centres today it looks as if this is already occurring :)
 
never hang around when you're in the friend zone dude. move on, you were only torturing yourself. never understood men who'd been friend zoned but were still all pally pally with women they fancied. you didn't want them as a friend so why maintain the friendship once you realised that was all it was going to be?!
i disagree...... whilst it is true it is gut wrenching for someone you really like to only be a friend................. i valued their friendship anyway.... indeed (not talking about a 1 night stand) if i want a relationship with someone 1st and foremost they need to be mates as well.

anyways that ship has long sinced sailed..... am married with a kid now.
 
When sex bots look like Gemma Chan, that's when I'll sign up! :D
I preferred Niska and possibly even the one who was a copper but i would not be arguing either way. ;)

Great series btw and was sad it was cancelled.... like so many promising tv shows (colony & travellers spring to mind) but am massively going on a tangent now...

sorry back to robot sex dolls ;)
 
never hang around when you're in the friend zone dude. move on, you were only torturing yourself. never understood men who'd been friend zoned but were still all pally pally with women they fancied. you didn't want them as a friend so why maintain the friendship once you realised that was all it was going to be?!
If you like someone enough to want to be their partner, surely they'd make a good friend if things never progressed to that stage...

Seems to be a pattern in here where too many guys aren't valuing the friendship part and are too focused on dating. Some of the best dating advice i've received has come from girls who I was interested in dating but decided we're better off being friends, they have a unique insight into how you pursue someone and what does and doesn't work. Plus if you're close enough they'll be honest about why things wouldn't have worked and you can see if it's something you want to work on.
 
Its easier to be confident if your good looking though surely? If you look like on orc your going to have issues.
Confidence can include "confident that your looks are what they are" and "Confident you're more fun company than the average good looking bloke who spends time on his appearance".

You can also go down the gym to improve your er, non-face physical appearance.
 
I preferred Niska and possibly even the one who was a copper but i would not be arguing either way. ;)

Great series btw and was sad it was cancelled.... like so many promising tv shows (colony & travellers spring to mind) but am massively going on a tangent now...

sorry back to robot sex dolls ;)

I love long straight dark/red hair, slim, tall. So she ticks a lot of boxes! I see it with niska. But it's Mia for me! :D

Oh yeah. Sex dolls...
 
never hang around when you're in the friend zone dude. move on, you were only torturing yourself. never understood men who'd been friend zoned but were still all pally pally with women they fancied. you didn't want them as a friend so why maintain the friendship once you realised that was all it was going to be?!

Yea I agree.

I mean you can have women friends as long as you are 100% set in yourself that you don't fancy them, or never would etc

I have women friends but I would never consider them anything more.

Or you could have women friends, yea you might knob them, but due to circumstances you know it would be never happen.

But having a women "as a friend" when secretly you hope it'll turn into something more is pretty pathetic. Normally if you want a relationship with a woman you'll know pretty quickly if it's going to happen, if not move on.
 
If you like someone enough to want to be their partner, surely they'd make a good friend if things never progressed to that stage...
depends on how the 'never progressed to that stage' occurred. if in the below quote it was you who decided to just be friends, then sure, maybe. if however someone ended up 'friend zoned' it's never going to be a happy friendship for them. take the person i quoted, they said themselves they ended up not liking being the shoulder to cry on for their girl friend. maintaining a friendship with someone you have romantic feelings for while they have none for you is a recipe for disaster and sadness.
Some of the best dating advice i've received has come from girls who I was interested in dating but decided we're better off being friends
 
Been friend-zoned plenty of times in the past but learnt my lesson not to stick around and moved onto the next one.

Women love attention from anyone, especially guys they have no intention of sleeping with.
 
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