The RX Vega 64 Owners Thread

[sharmanov]

they try to dominate by pushing so much product into the market and securing corsair only retailers ..
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/evga...plus-gold-modular-power-supply-ca-03j-ea.html
try this .. when they put a 10 yr warranty on it they mean it ..
mine went after 2 but I was pushing it pumpsx2 fans x13 overclocked 8350 and 290 and dust
4 days later new one at the door ..

So you think 850 is enough for vega 64? because some are saying 1K is needed really for optimal performance. because if i can get away with 850 that will save me some money.( considering PSU swap is going to resolve my crash reset problem when power limit is set anywhere between -10 to +50 )

 

[Street]

just buy anything other than corsair ..my experience is there rails are all over the shop .. 3 in a row where the 12v would drop to 11v

The new one I bought was a Corsair!

I went from a 9 year old Corsair 750w to a new TX850M and it seems to cope just fine.

 

[Steampunk]

Hmm.... good to know, i didn't know that about corsair... alway thought they were dominant in PSU and memory fields.... i will take that into consideration, thank you

Corsair used to historically have good PSUs, but they don't make them, production is outsourced to various other companies. In recent years, Corsair PSUs have had cheaper innards, and the quality has gone down. Nowadays Seasonic and Superflower are considered the best, though some other companies like BeQuiet have some well-specced PSUs made by the likes of FSP. Other companies like XFX use rebranded Superflowers, so they are also good.

In general, it's worth doing some research on such an important, and yet underrated part of your PC before believing the advertising hype. You have to check on a per model basis, as companies like Corsair use multiple manufacturers for their different PSUs depending on the range/size.

 

[TheRealDeal]

Yup, ive said it before, not going Nvidia just because of FreeSync is madness, as Nvidia cards work just fine on FreeSync screens, who cares if you'll lose FreeSync, ive got FreeSync, and id use a Nvidia card still, it just wouldn't bother me losing it, as i gamed for many years without FreeSync when it wasn't invented, so i can do again.

I just don't get how some are willing to go on for years, turning their graphics settings down, and even skipping games altogether, saying Nvidia is not an option, they have to wait, got no choice, however many years it will take, for them to release another card, all because they have FreeSync, madness.

Yet you are still using AMD cards on your Freesync monitor. I think it's just common sense to use Freesync if you have it. It's why AMD done blind tests with Vega and even against the 1080ti the gaming experience was close. Now take away G-Sync/Fressync and use V-Sync, i am pretty sure most if not all would go for the 1080ti being the better experience due to the extra drops on the Vega card. You are fooling yourself if you don't think Freesync/G-Sync make a huge difference at 4k and probably even 1440p. Seen it first hand side by side how big the difference is. Lucky for me my mate has a 4k G-Sync and a 4k Freesync side by side. When frames are high holding over 60 fps there is no real difference but when under 60 then Freesync/G-Sync is a must.

 

[nashathedog]

£680 isn't £800, it's also the same price an AIO GTX1080 costs, yet people don't repeatedly use that as an excuse to trash talk the GTX1080 lol.

You're right, but the Sapphire models £690 not £680 plus it has a tenner off so it should be £700 really but even so that's lower than the others so kudos to Sapphire, As for the 1080 aio's the EVGA 1080 AIO was £550 on OCUK during the day's leading up to Vega's release, I know cause I almost talked myself into buying one a couple of times which I regret not doing now, At the time I was holding out for Vega which was a mistake as they never got more stock in.

 

[nashathedog]

Yup, ive said it before, not going Nvidia just because of FreeSync is madness, as Nvidia cards work just fine on FreeSync screens, who cares if you'll lose FreeSync, ive got FreeSync, and id use a Nvidia card still, it just wouldn't bother me losing it, as i gamed for many years without FreeSync when it wasn't invented, so i can do again.

I just don't get how some are willing to go on for years, turning their graphics settings down, and even skipping games altogether, saying Nvidia is not an option, they have to wait, got no choice, however many years it will take, for them to release another card, all because they have FreeSync, madness.

Well said. Ruling either company out is silly, I'll always buy from either and would happily run Vega if they hadn't made such a hash of it.

 

[Squid Vicious]

Corsair used to historically have good PSUs, but they don't make them, production is outsourced to various other companies. In recent years, Corsair PSUs have had cheaper innards, and the quality has gone down. Nowadays Seasonic and Superflower are considered the best, though some other companies like BeQuiet have some well-specced PSUs made by the likes of FSP. Other companies like XFX use rebranded Superflowers, so they are also good.

In general, it's worth doing some research on such an important, and yet underrated part of your PC before believing the advertising hype. You have to check on a per model basis, as companies like Corsair use multiple manufacturers for their different PSUs depending on the range/size.

Highly recommend both Seasonic and Superflower - have used Seasonic previously over many years and never encountered issues.
Also worth noting that the likes of EVGA use rebranded Superflower PSUs in at least tome of their range and can often be had at competitive prices - I'm using an EVGA in my current build for this very reason - along with the excellent warranty they provide.

 

[sharmanov]

Corsair used to historically have good PSUs, but they don't make them, production is outsourced to various other companies. In recent years, Corsair PSUs have had cheaper innards, and the quality has gone down. Nowadays Seasonic and Superflower are considered the best, though some other companies like BeQuiet have some well-specced PSUs made by the likes of FSP. Other companies like XFX use rebranded Superflowers, so they are also good.

In general, it's worth doing some research on such an important, and yet underrated part of your PC before believing the advertising hype. You have to check on a per model basis, as companies like Corsair use multiple manufacturers for their different PSUs depending on the range/size.

Yeah if my current corsair 850 is the problem causing component then im definitely going to do some thorough research on a new PSU before i buy....Thank You

 

[nashathedog]

So you think 850 is enough for vega 64? because some are saying 1K is needed really for optimal performance. because if i can get away with 850 that will save me some money.( considering PSU swap is going to resolve my crash reset problem when power limit is set anywhere between -10 to +50 )

850 watt's definitely not enough, Yes some cards will be okay with a 850 watt PSU but some won't, There's a lot of variance between card, Thje C1's in the air cooled models are more likely to be okay but I wouldn't bother risking it if you're taslking about an AIO model. Just get a 1000w one.


I tried to run my Vega AIO with a Corsair TX850 which is a 5 year old bronze rated model, It couldn't run Vega, So after posting here and talking to OCUK staff over the phone I was told a modern 850 watt psu would be more than good enough so I bought a Corsair HX850i Platinum rated model just to find it also couldn't run Vega.

 

[gupsterg]

It certainly isn't when they want around £800 for a Vega AIO which is more than a 1080ti costs, Then you need to factor in the new PSU that many of us would also need to power it. I ended up returning my Vega AIO and PSU and out of the £930 refund I used just £500 to buy the 1080 I'm now using with my Freesync panel and the gaming's no worse than it was with my Fury so Freesync's not worth the cost extra, not by a long shot.

Yup, ive said it before, not going Nvidia just because of FreeSync is madness, as Nvidia cards work just fine on FreeSync screens, who cares if you'll lose FreeSync, ive got FreeSync, and id use a Nvidia card still, it just wouldn't bother me losing it, as i gamed for many years without FreeSync when it wasn't invented, so i can do again.

I just don't get how some are willing to go on for years, turning their graphics settings down, and even skipping games altogether, saying Nvidia is not an option, they have to wait, got no choice, however many years it will take, for them to release another card, all because they have FreeSync, madness.

Hmmm ...

Not to sure on this.

I went MSI GTX 1080 EK X. Initial thoughts WOW I'm getting ~1975MHz in benches without OC (guessing down to nVidia Boost 3.0, card being within temps/powerlimit,etc). So last night for 1st time since owning I thought I'll game on it as I'd sorta finished with tweaks on newly built ThreadRipper setup.

I have clocked up on SWBF ~150hrs, had used my Fury X at 1440P with a 88FPS cap, so it stayed within FPS for FreeSync usage on MG279Q. Preset Ultra, even without using OC ROM on my Fury X I felt gameplay was smoother than GTX 1080. The 1080 was at same preset but no cap and V-Sync off.

So I thought let's cap FPS at say 120, use V-Sync, as I had seen FPS in the range of that and upto 144 using the GTX 1080. Upon entering the nVidia control panel I found no option to cap FPS :/ (missed AMD driver panel at this point). I thought OK I'll use RivaTuner to do a cap, then I thought try another game prior to spending time on these 'tweaks'.

So I fired up Lords of the fallen. I have completed this before, so again I'd say I have fair experience of how the Fury X behaves on this game with FreeSync. I used same in game settings, again V-Sync off. Again I felt the gameplay was better on Fury X with lower FPS but with FreeSync on.

Will be having another attack at 'tweaking' things tonight.

Next I'll explain how FreeSync helped on an older game in the past. Few months back I got Dead Space (yeah never played it on release, etc). When first used it was capped at 30 FPS IIRC, I thought WOT! So I disabled V-Sync and FPS went crazy in the 200+ range IIRC. So I capped it, I had this horrible line within the middle of the screen on movement. I tried game at various FPS caps, slightly lower than various refresh rates on 3 monitors (Eizo FG2421, Dell U2515H and Asus MG279Q). The way this line went was with using FreeSync on the MG279Q.

Currently I have some regret on just having parceled off my Fury X, which sold a day or so ago. If I do not manage to 'tweak' GTX 1080 to give a smooth gaming experience, as I recall on Fury X with FreeSync, then I think it will be VEGA time .

 

[nashathedog]

Hmmm ...

Not to sure on this.

I went MSI GTX 1080 EK X. Initial thoughts WOW I'm getting ~1975MHz in benches without OC (guessing down to nVidia Boost 3.0, card being within temps/powerlimit,etc). So last night for 1st time since owning I thought I'll game on it as I'd sorta finished with tweaks on newly built ThreadRipper setup.

I have clocked up on SWBF ~150hrs, had used my Fury X at 1440P with a 88FPS cap, so it stayed within FPS for FreeSync usage on MG279Q. Preset Ultra, even without using OC ROM on my Fury X I felt gameplay was smoother than GTX 1080. The 1080 was at same preset but no cap and V-Sync off.

So I thought let's cap FPS at say 120, use V-Sync, as I had seen FPS in the range of that and upto 144 using the GTX 1080. Upon entering the nVidia control panel I found no option to cap FPS :/ (missed AMD driver panel at this point). I thought OK I'll use RivaTuner to do a cap, then I thought try another game prior to spending time on these 'tweaks'.

So I fired up Lords of the fallen. I have completed this before, so again I'd say I have fair experience of how the Fury X behaves on this game with FreeSync. I used same in game settings, again V-Sync off. Again I felt the gameplay was better on Fury X with lower FPS but with FreeSync on.

Will be having another attack at 'tweaking' things tonight.

Next I'll explain how FreeSync helped on an older game in the past. Few months back I got Dead Space (yeah never played it on release, etc). When first used it was capped at 30 FPS IIRC, I thought WOT! So I disabled V-Sync and FPS went crazy in the 200+ range IIRC. So I capped it, I had this horrible line within the middle of the screen on movement. I tried game at various FPS caps, slightly lower than various refresh rates on 3 monitors (Eizo FG2421, Dell U2515H and Asus MG279Q). The way this line went was with using FreeSync on the MG279Q.

Currently I have some regret on just having parceled off my Fury X, which sold a day or so ago. If I do not manage to 'tweak' GTX 1080 to give a smooth gaming experience, as I recall on Fury X with FreeSync, then I think it will be VEGA time .

I was running a Fury pro with an Acer Freesync uw1440 and it did a great job, I ended up returning my Vega after selling the Fury (that was about a month before Vega released) and if I'd still had the Fury I may of stuck with that but I hadn't so I bought an MSI 1080 Armor as a temporary card (to replace the 1060 I'd bought as a temporary card due to no sensibly priced 480/580's) until AIB Vega's release, The last 3 or 4 weeks gaming with the 1080 have been fine, I set graphic options so it doesn't go below about 50 and turn Fastsync on for when it goes higher than the monitors 75 hz refresh rate and I'm having no problems so while I would like to get a non reference vega if the pricing's wrong I simply won't bother.

 

[LtMatt]

Could never go back to not using adaptive sync tech, night and day for me. I'd rather have a slower GPU and FreeSync, than a faster GPU and no adaptive sync tech.

 

[Bazzards]

Good job you are an AMD rep then.

 

[sharmanov]

850 watt's definitely not enough, Yes some cards will be okay with a 850 watt PSU but some won't, There's a lot of variance between card, Thje C1's in the air cooled models are more likely to be okay but I wouldn't bother risking it if you're taslking about an AIO model. Just get a 1000w one.


I tried to run my Vega AIO with a Corsair TX850 which is a 5 year old bronze rated model, It couldn't run Vega, So after posting here and talking to OCUK staff over the phone I was told a modern 850 watt psu would be more than good enough so I bought a Corsair HX850i Platinum rated model just to find it also couldn't run Vega.

Damn ... figures, i kinda speculated that though.... thanks dude

 

[gupsterg]

Could never go back to not using adaptive sync tech, night and day for me. I'd rather have a slower GPU and FreeSync, than a faster GPU and no adaptive sync tech.

Feeling this for sure , seen this highlighted in some reviews as well.

As we said before, FreeSync is perhaps AMD's strongest asset, and it could be the Vega 64's only saving grace. Variable refresh rate gaming really is worth going for if at all possible, and FreeSync is a considerably less expensive alternative to G-Sync. The GTX 1080 is the better card overall, but if you only care about performance and maximising bang for buck, the RX Vega 64 with a FreeSync screen is very viable and possibly better solution than the GTX 1080 with a comparable G-Sync monitor.

https://www.bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/graphics/amd-radeon-rx-vega-64-and-rx-vega-56-review/15/

I was running a Fury pro with an Acer Freesync uw1440 and it did a great job, I ended up returning my Vega after selling the Fury (that was about a month before Vega released) and if I'd still had the Fury I may of stuck with that but I hadn't so I bought an MSI 1080 Armor as a temporary card (to replace the 1060 I'd bought as a temporary card due to no sensibly priced 480/580's) until AIB Vega's release, The last 3 or 4 weeks gaming with the 1080 have been fine, I set graphic options so it doesn't go below about 50 and turn Fastsync on for when it goes higher than the monitors 75 hz refresh rate and I'm having no problems so while I would like to get a non reference vega if the pricing's wrong I simply won't bother.

I disposed of Fury X due to 4GB HBM, I felt as time would go on this would be constraining. I have read posts where some will say 4GB HBM is like 6GB GDDR, which is not correct IMO.

I got no qualms, buying ref PCB. IMO AMD MBA are pretty darn good. I say this from having used Hawaii and Fiji with AMD MBA PCB. Even the AIB Hawaii cards I had, had no significant gains on OC where cooling was not an issue on ref when changed.

I shall play with settings more tonight , but I do think I will soon be on VEGA . My last nVidia card was GTX 280, quite shocking driver panel seems same as that .

 

[Davedree]

Could never go back to not using adaptive sync tech, night and day for me. I'd rather have a slower GPU and FreeSync, than a faster GPU and no adaptive sync tech.

On the desktop monitor sure, but for a front room htpc then i'll take the faster card with fastsync or if amd didn't have such poor power efficency then a vega itx with enhanced sync. Problem is gp102 is borderline 4k whilst amd at 4k isn't even worth looking at

 

[nashathedog]

Could never go back to not using adaptive sync tech, night and day for me. I'd rather have a slower GPU and FreeSync, than a faster GPU and no adaptive sync tech.

I was expecting it too bother me as well but so far it hasn't, that may be partially due to the games I'm playing, That said I have a backlog of triple A titles I need to start playing now winter's here so I'll see if that changes things.

 

[nashathedog]

Damn ... figures, i kinda speculated that though.... thanks dude

It's a real shame as a lot of us will have to figure a new PSU into the cost and a decent 1000 watter is North of £150.

I disposed of Fury X due to 4GB HBM, I felt as time would go on this would be constraining. I have read posts where some will say 4GB HBM is like 6GB GDDR, which is not correct IMO.

I got no qualms, buying ref PCB. IMO AMD MBA are pretty darn good. I say this from having used Hawaii and Fiji with AMD MBA PCB. Even the AIB Hawaii cards I had, had no significant gains on OC where cooling was not an issue on ref when changed.

I shall play with settings more tonight , but I do think I will soon be on VEGA . My last nVidia card was GTX 280, quite shocking driver panel seems same as that .

I did the same thing but the truth is the only time the memory was an issue was when you had games like ROTTR with texture settings that literally added nothing extra except ram usage, Oh and you're quite right 4gb's is 4gb's

The only difference between these two shots is one uses the lower texture setting and one uses the highest texture setting which takes the ram usage over 4gb's at 1080p, which do you think is which?

Spoiler

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Have the FreeSync owners who say they can't go Nvidia because of it, ever thought, that they could sell their FreeSync screen as well, so they can go Nvidia, and G.

People can happily sell one vendors card for another, can't see why monitors would be different.

 

[r22snapper]

Yup, ive said it before, not going Nvidia just because of FreeSync is madness, as Nvidia cards work just fine on FreeSync screens, who cares if you'll lose FreeSync, ive got FreeSync, and id use a Nvidia card still, it just wouldn't bother me losing it, as i gamed for many years without FreeSync when it wasn't invented, so i can do again.

I just don't get how some are willing to go on for years, turning their graphics settings down, and even skipping games altogether, saying Nvidia is not an option, they have to wait, got no choice, however many years it will take, for them to release another card, all because they have FreeSync, madness.

I bought a 1080 as my Fury wasnt cutting it at 3440 widescreen. Whether it was the bigger screen or Freesync spoiling me but I found the tearing and stuttering really obvious with the 1080. Luckily I sold it for what I paid and got the Vega at launch price. Performance isn't noticeably worse despite all the negativity on here and Freesync more than makes up the difference in my experience.

Edit to add; On the 1080 I the only way to keep smoothness was to reduce settings so I could stay over Vsync 100% of the time. I can use higher settings with the Vega getting 50-75 fps and keep the smoothness.