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The RX Vega 64 Owners Thread

nashathedog said:
Maybe but I don't think it'll be a nice card to live with, They reviewed Gigabytes identical Vega 56 a week or so earlier: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gigabyte-radeon-rx-vega-56-gaming-oc-8g-review,5413-7.html

I've been looking for the recent Vega face off that was posted somewhere on this forum, It put all four Vega 64 versions up against each other and the Gigabyte was far behind the other three with poor temps, noise and clocks comparatively. Personally I'd pay the extra for the Red Devil.
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That was with out of the box settings and power limit cranked up to +50%. I bet with a little bit of tuning, undervolting and overclocking the HBM to 1100Mhz, you could have it purring along silently at 1600Mhz core clock, assuming case airflow is not poor.
 
Raptorpg said:
More than the review it was more around the number of users that were having issues with the card artifacting, card breaking after a few days. Not sure if I can post links to retailers website but look at the big us ones and the picture is not pretty.
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I just had a look and honest most of the negative reviews were complaining about the price, with a couple of people saying they had to RMA.

Airflow wise, I'd like to think I'd be OK, got the antec DF85 and looks alike, it has fans for days, so I'd hope that would deal with any heat. I'll try and find that vega 64 head to head mentioned earlier,then work out if the performance difference is worth £130.
 
iviv said:
Morning all.
I've been running an r9 290 since its release, and it's beginning to get a little long in the tooth. So, I'm looking at upgrading to vega, and just trying to decide between the cards that ocuk has. Going by the prices, vega 64 seems much better value vs 56, one of the cards is even cheaper than the 56 ones!

Is it a no brainer to grab the gigabyte 64? The powercolor and strix cards are clocked higher, but also quite a bit more expensive. I've never Overclocked a graphics card before, but I've also heard that vega is pretty hard to oc due to heat issues?
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I will agree with @LtMatt.

There is a benchmark comparing all the V64 cards

Given it's price at £449 (even less if you compare the games it is coming with, it lowers it's value bellow the £400 mark!!!!!!)
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...hbm2-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-19n-gi.html

is great value for money compared to the other cards.
If the PowerColor was at £504 mark (the price bought my Nitro+ earlier in July) then I would have said get the Powercolor or Sapphire without second thought.
However with the difference at almost £100, nah. Ain't worth. Get the Gigabyte.

You can improve the card performance later on by lower bit the voltage, add some higher clocks and replace the thermal paste with liquid metal.
Personally if you have a Freesync monitor, you are set and only the most demanding games you will need to tap into Turbo or custom overclock modes.

I run the Nitro+ between Power Saving and Turbo mode, even if I have it watercooled, because the performance is there depending the games and with these warm days, adding extra heat in the room is kinda pointless when the games I play hit the 100-140fps cap, at 80-170W (Elite, World of Tanks, World of Warships, EU4, CK2, HOI IV) or at 276W (FC5, GTAV etc) on Turbo mode.

Make sure you read my previous pages posts about my experience last 6 weeks playing with the Vega 64 settings and card (liquid metal etc) and my findings.
I find the Vega fascinating, and miles more interesting card to play with it's settings than my previous GTX1080Ti Xtreme. Which was a dull card.

I am sure if you spend 1 hour fiddling with the Gigabyte settings you will get pretty good performance out of it. Also if you have space, you can off the bat improve the performance by having a good fan blowing air directly towards the card.
 
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Panos said:
I will agree with @LtMatt.

There is a benchmark comparing all the V64 cards

Given it's price at £449 (even less if you compare the games it is coming with, it lowers it's value bellow the £400 mark!!!!!!)
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...hbm2-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-19n-gi.html

is great value for money compared to the other cards.
If the PowerColor was at £504 mark (the price bought my Nitro+ earlier in July) then I would have said get the Powercolor or Sapphire without second thought.
However with the difference at almost £100, nah. Ain't worth. Get the Gigabyte.

You can improve the card performance later on by lower bit the voltage, add some higher clocks and replace the thermal paste with liquid metal.
Personally if you have a Freesync monitor, you are set and only the most demanding games you will need to tap into Turbo or custom overclock modes.

I run the Nitro+ between Power Saving and Turbo mode, even if I have it watercooled, because the performance is there depending the games and with these warm days, adding extra heat in the room is kinda pointless when the games I play hit the 100-140fps cap, at 80-170W (Elite, World of Tanks, World of Warships, EU4, CK2, HOI IV) or at 276W (FC5, GTAV etc) on Turbo mode.

Make sure you read my previous pages posts about my experience last 6 weeks playing with the Vega 64 settings and card (liquid metal etc) and my findings.
I find the Vega fascinating, and miles more interesting card to play with it's settings than my previous GTX1080Ti Xtreme. Which was a dull card.

I am sure if you spend 1 hour fiddling with the Gigabyte settings you will get pretty good performance out of it. Also if you have space, you can off the bat improve the performance by having a good fan blowing air directly towards the card.
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Thanks for the in depth post. I've previously avoided messing about with graphics card settings, in part due to a bug in the radeon drivers which causes problems when you have multiple monitors running at different resolutions and refresh rates, had to run a program which forces the card at full clock speed the whole time, though I'm hoping an up to date card will also fix that.

So how easy is all the tweaking for a newbie? Hoping it's nothing to hard!
 
LtMatt said:
That was with out of the box settings and power limit cranked up to +50%. I bet with a little bit of tuning, undervolting and overclocking the HBM to 1100Mhz, you could have it purring along silently at 1600Mhz core clock, assuming case airflow is not poor.
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Possibly but how it performs in a case is where it stumbles according to what I've read elsewhere, It needs a bigger heatsink, I wouldn't want to buy a card that can't handle the temps very well and throttles because of it. Do Toms test on an open bench?

Panos said:
There is a benchmark comparing all the V64 cards
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The multitechnopark video above doesn't give enough info, Seeing the fps is fine but it's not enough on it's own, for example in the first graph it's 5 fps behind the Nitro, Why's the question, Maintainable clock speeds? If so why are they lower, temps ? Then it's what fan speed does it need to keep from throttling and how does that effect noise? Is it done on an open bench for MTP's videos, Are they all MTP's results or are they bundled from various sources? I've been asking myself that last question for a while.

iviv said:
So how easy is all the tweaking for a newbie? Hoping it's nothing to hard!
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It's a pain in the rear, I tend to run my hardware as it comes, For that reason I prefer to get a card that can run without all the messing around.
 
iviv said:
Thanks for the in depth post. I've previously avoided messing about with graphics card settings, in part due to a bug in the radeon drivers which causes problems when you have multiple monitors running at different resolutions and refresh rates, had to run a program which forces the card at full clock speed the whole time, though I'm hoping an up to date card will also fix that.

So how easy is all the tweaking for a newbie? Hoping it's nothing to hard!
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First of all uninstall all 3rd party software and only install AMD relive if you truly needed it.
Preferably if you have had the same windows for long time, better take a backup and have a fresh install.
Otherwise just use DDU to wipe out everything.

From the start AMD Wattman supports 4 modes.
Power Saving where the card has a cap at 176W power consumption.
Balanced where the card has cap around 234W power consumption.
Turbo Mode where the card has cap around 276W power consumption.
Custom where is set to Turbo Mode and then you can play with the settings.

There rule of thumb is, to add 50% power limit and find the max clocks of your HBM VRAM. 1100 is your target but depends many things like heat.
Then lower the P7 state power to 1050mv or 1100mv and leave clocks as they are.
Save the profile and give it a try, don't try other settings in the mean time.

Using 18.8.1 and pressing ALT+R you can always change settings and monitor your GPU while playing games, or running a benchmark.
 
nashathedog said:
The multitechnopark video above doesn't give enough info, Seeing the fps is fine but it's not enough on it's own, for example in the first graph it's 5 fps behind the Nitro, Why's the question, Maintainable clock speeds? If so why are they lower, temps ? Then it's what fan speed does it need to keep from throttling and how does that effect noise? Is it done on an open bench for MTP's videos, Are they all MTP's results or are they bundled from various sources? I've been asking myself that last question for a while.


It's a pain in the rear, I tend to run my hardware as it comes, For that reason I prefer to get a card that can run without all the messing around.
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True the video I posted is not a good indication, but is the only one could find that had the Gigabyte card in comparison to the others. :(
Someone at least can get an idea how it performs in basic lines. Imho is the cooler that keeps the card behind.
 
Panos said:
First of all uninstall all 3rd party software and only install AMD relive if you truly needed it.
Preferably if you have had the same windows for long time, better take a backup and have a fresh install.
Otherwise just use DDU to wipe out everything.

From the start AMD Wattman supports 4 modes.
Power Saving where the card has a cap at 176W power consumption.
Balanced where the card has cap around 234W power consumption.
Turbo Mode where the card has cap around 276W power consumption.
Custom where is set to Turbo Mode and then you can play with the settings.

There rule of thumb is, to add 50% power limit and find the max clocks of your HBM VRAM. 1100 is your target but depends many things like heat.
Then lower the P7 state power to 1050mv or 1100mv and leave clocks as they are.
Save the profile and give it a try, don't try other settings in the mean time.

Using 18.8.1 and pressing ALT+R you can always change settings and monitor your GPU while playing games, or running a benchmark.
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Is DDU needed when staying within AMD? I've always avoided those programs because of some old stories that it could somehow ruin your windows install, and I'd never had problems just installing the newer drivers over the old.

Plus if the gigabyte cards are more likely to need an rma, it'll be easier to just drop my 290 back in.
 
iviv said:
Is DDU needed when staying within AMD? I've always avoided those programs because of some old stories that it could somehow ruin your windows install, and I'd never had problems just installing the newer drivers over the old.

Plus if the gigabyte cards are more likely to need an rma, it'll be easier to just drop my 290 back in.
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Use DDU is fine. Make sure you see how to force the program to switch to Safe Mode as is must, then wipe out everything AMD related.
When it gives you a warning about stopping the windows to automatically update the driver that is fine. Is needed.
 
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Hmm, £450 for the gigabyte card.

Any indication of how long it's on offer for?

Edit - Just saw, it's on this week only.

Very tempting. Would you say it's unlikely to drop any further, even with the release of the Nvidia 11 series?
 
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ShortWarning said:
Hmm, £450 for the gigabyte card.

Any indication of how long it's on offer for?

Edit - Just saw, it's on this week only.

Very tempting. Would you say it's unlikely to drop any further, even with the release of the Nvidia 11 series?
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It is coming with 3 games of which one alone easily drops the card to bellow £400 mark.
As if it will drop further who knows. Is like the 1920X which price today is between £350-390 in UK. Will the price go up or down the upcoming weeks?
The point is if at this moment worth the money.

As for the "11xx" we have no clue yet when and at what price range.
Only a rumour mill that is grinding since September last year.
 
A game bundle that gives us 3 games that'll be worth over £110 on release is very tempting, Unfortunately my m-atx motherboard doesn't have a slot for a second card, If it did I'd of bought a 580 Red Dragon to get the games & play around with it in crossfire with my 480 Red Devil. Unfortunately I'm easily persuaded too,
My sensible half is grateful I can't fit a second card on my board while my other side is pricing up new motherboard. :rolleyes:

God help me. :D
 
nashathedog said:
A game bundle that gives us 3 games that'll be worth over £110 on release is very tempting, Unfortunately my m-atx motherboard doesn't have a slot for a second card, If it did I'd of bought a 580 Red Dragon to get the games & play around with it in crossfire with my 480 Red Devil. Unfortunately I'm easily persuaded too,
My sensible half is grateful I can't fit a second card on my board while my other side is pricing up new motherboard. :rolleyes:

God help me. :D
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You can always buy an extension and put the cards vertically if your case support it.
And if not, thats the dremel for :P
 
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