The Sony A73/A7R3/A7S3/A9 Thread

Raymond Lin said:
Sooooo, I had a go today.

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It is amazing.

The no black out is almost the best thing since sliced bread..so to speak, I am not sure if it is necessary but it is certainly nice.

The AF tracking with native lenses are really fast, one thing I didn't look into is if I can use a single focus point because you can move the little box with the thumb stick to focus, it still comes up with a cluster that darts around when you press the button and a couple of times that focus point cluster popped up on the other side of the EVF!!! totally assumed wrong what I wanted to focus on. It has very very good AI servo though.

Also tried it with the Sigma adaptor with my Sigma 50A 1.4. The focus speed is definitely slower compared to the 24-70 GM or the 85 GM.

The shutter, as in FPS is insane, was instantly taken back how quick it is. With the 5D I could have it on Highest speed and I am able or used to press the trigger and have 2 or 3 photo bursts, which I am used to, in order to eliminate blinking, same process with the A9 and I think about 6-7 photos went off. I would go through SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much memory if I am shooting that thing.

Overall, from a quick play I like it a lot, it does a LOT right, with native lenses it works brilliantly, size wise with the primes and adaptor is a bit big so I won't go into the size is smaller than a DSLR argument as it is moot.
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did you notice any banding?
 
Hi all.

So i managed to pick up the New Sony A9 today and did a quick unboxing video of it.

I have not even turned the camera on as i only had time to record and edit this video.

I will be sure to test out its many features.

Any specific things you want me to test, let me know

Video below. Give it a couple of minutes at the time of posting this until it is live on the link provided!

https://youtu.be/Z-VSN3s9DRA
 
jonneymendoza said:
Hi all.

So i managed to pick up the New Sony A9 today and did a quick unboxing video of it.

I have not even turned the camera on as i only had time to record and edit this video.

I will be sure to test out its many features.

Any specific things you want me to test, let me know

Video below. Give it a couple of minutes at the time of posting this until it is live on the link provided!

https://youtu.be/Z-VSN3s9DRA
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Congratulations!

Have you tested the start-up time, especially from a cold boot-up? Specifically, take out the battery, insert the battery, tic the clock when you flip the switch, toc the clock when you can shoot the first image.
 
Some weakness of the A9 as a speed camera:

a) Cold boot-up time = 4-5 seconds; warm wake-up time = 2-3 seconds. This could be inconvenient for some use cases and miss the decisive moments (e.g. the camera stayed overnight and the next day you grab it and want to shoot your kid).

b) Buffer clearing time = 36 seconds for the faster slot, and 110 seconds for the slower slot. Faster slot is not up to the standard of Canikon (6x the time of Canikon), and slower slot is a disaster for dual-card back-up shootings such like wedding. The MENU is also inaccessible and the playback is slow during buffer clearing up.

c) All AF points are non-crosstype, and are only sensitive to vertical textures. They don't seem to be placed in a staggered chessboard layout or interlaced layout in different directions, so the camera would fail to focus under certain situations.

d) I consider the FE 35mm f/1.4 ZA and the FE 55mm f/1.8 ZA to be very practical lenses, however unfortunately these older lenses can only shoot at 15fps with AE/AFC, leaving only marginal improvement over Canikon.

I'm not particularly worried about overheating or banding or 12-bit lossy RAW, but the above are sort of depressive.
 
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voidshatter said:
Some weakness of the A9 as a speed camera:

a) Cold boot-up time = 4-5 seconds; warm wake-up time = 2-3 seconds. This could be inconvenient for some use cases and miss the decisive moments (e.g. the camera stayed overnight and the next day you grab it and want to shoot your kid).
Mine warm boost much faster then that. instant but for cold boots its more like 2-3 seconds

b) Buffer clearing time = 36 seconds for the faster slot, and 110 seconds for the slower slot. Faster slot is not up to the standard of Canikon (6x the time of Canikon), and slower slot is a disaster for dual-card back-up shootings such like wedding. The MENU is also inaccessible and the playback is slow during buffer clearing up.

You can access all functions from the quick fucntion button that is fully customization. Also i have never filled a buffer in real world scenarios such as shooting motosports or fighter jets above

c) All AF points are non-crosstype, and are only sensitive to vertical textures. They don't seem to be placed in a staggered chessboard layout or interlaced layout in different directions, so the camera would fail to focus under certain situations.

cross type is whats used on DSLR. in mirrorless its PHASE DETECTION AF points used here that are more accurate then DLSR and can potentially shoot in darker situations as DSLR limits the light gathered at f2.8 vs mirrorless that gathers as much light as your settings and what your lens can take(set it at f1.4 on a 35mm prime and it will shoot at f1.4 vs f2.8 on a DSLR)

d) I consider the FE 35mm f/1.4 ZA and the FE 55mm f/1.8 ZA to be very practical lenses, however unfortunately these older lenses can only shoot at 15fps with AE/AFC, leaving only marginal improvement over Canikon.

12FPS VS 15FPS is a noticeable difference and 15fps is still faster then 1dx 14fps.

I'm not particularly worried about overheating or banding or 12-bit lossy RAW, but the above are sort of depressive.
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jonneymendoza said:
Mine warm boost much faster then that. instant but for cold boots its more like 2-3 seconds
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Then yours obviously doesn't agree with this: https://youtu.be/0czb57eoDSY


jonneymendoza said:
You can access all functions from the quick fucntion button that is fully customization. Also i have never filled a buffer in real world scenarios such as shooting motosports or fighter jets above
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Then that means you never need to sustain more than 5 fps (117MB/s) for a longer period. For wedding (e.g. down the aisle, flower shower etc), or for sports, events etc it's quite common for me to sustain lots of bursts.

jonneymendoza said:
cross type is whats used on DSLR. in mirrorless its PHASE DETECTION AF points used here that are more accurate then DLSR and can potentially shoot in darker situations as DSLR limits the light gathered at f2.8 vs mirrorless that gathers as much light as your settings and what your lens can take(set it at f1.4 on a 35mm prime and it will shoot at f1.4 vs f2.8 on a DSLR)
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DSLR can focus at f/1.4 with f/1.4 light. It doesn't change the fact that the A9 is completely blind to horizontal textures: https://youtu.be/R7VRUKkxH7Q


jonneymendoza said:
12FPS VS 15FPS is a noticeable difference and 15fps is still faster then 1dx 14fps.
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If 15 fps is noticeably faster than 12 fps, then 20 fps is even more noticeably faster than 15 fps, further making 15 fps lenses miserable.
 
voidshatter said:
Then yours obviously doesn't agree with this: https://youtu.be/0czb57eoDSY

obviously not. Mines slight faster then that.




Then that means you never need to sustain more than 5 fps (117MB/s) for a longer period. For wedding (e.g. down the aisle, flower shower etc), or for sports, events etc it's quite common for me to sustain lots of bursts.

spray and pray? The buffer takes around 36 seconds to fill on continues AF 20fps. ive shot motosport and cars do almost half a lap at that time. For walking down the aisle you need to shoot constant 20fps for the whole walk. ive shot someone on the aisle but on the 5d3 and never reached the buffer or shot continuesly. the buffer on the 5d3 only lasts about 9 seconds yet never had an issue.


DSLR can focus at f/1.4 with f/1.4 light. It doesn't change the fact that the A9 is completely blind to horizontal textures: https://youtu.be/R7VRUKkxH7Q


Ive shot in portrait mode in dim light with no problem(studio work with just a dim modelling light on etc). I will try and post a video up later. Your video doesnt tell much. You pointed your camera at a blank walk in portait mode and quickly cut the video feed. If this was a huge issue, it would have been highlighted all over the web.

If 15 fps is noticeably faster than 12 fps, then 20 fps is even more noticeably faster than 15 fps, further making 15 fps lenses miserable.

Then the 1dx and d5 are miserable cameras! seriously you are saying1 5fps is miserable? Do you want 24fps and just shoot video instead? or 60fps? Your the first in the world to think 15fps is miserable
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