The Sony A73/A7R3/A7S3/A9 Thread

jonneymendoza said:
They now have pro support
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Have you had a chance to use it yet though ? Poor customer support has been a common criticism of Sony up to now. For comparison, in the UK, both Canon and Fujifilm's are excellent, Nikon's is ok. That said, I do think Sony are serious about trying to be number one in the full-frame market, and I'm sure they realise they have to up their game in customer / professional support to succeed.
 
Richdog said:
Many of Sony's top lenses are cheaper than their Nikon equivalents, including the 35mm 1 4, 24-70 2.8 and 70-200 2.8 as examples. Anyway Sigma Art 1.4's are coming next year.

Customer support, no idea yet...
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Yup, the latest top-end Nikon lenses are quite expensive also, and comparable to Sony's. I personally don't rate many of the newest Nikon lenses, or at least think they offer poor value but that's for another topic. But, compared to Canon & Fuji, Sony lenses ( the GM series anyway ) are quite expensive. I just added up what it would cost me to purchase an A7RIII with all the lenses I would want / need and it came to just over £13,000. Ouch. I'd be selling my GFX system to fund that .... just not something I'm prepared to do.
 
xaldub said:
Have you had a chance to use it yet though ? Poor customer support has been a common criticism of Sony up to now. For comparison, in the UK, both Canon and Fujifilm's are excellent, Nikon's is ok. That said, I do think Sony are serious about trying to be number one in the full-frame market, and I'm sure they realise they have to up their game in customer / professional support to succeed.
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There customer support is better now for at least pros as it's the same as canikon.

No I never used them thank god as all my gear have worked flawlessly so far in my life time.

And I don't surround my gear in cotton wool either.
 
xaldub said:
Yup, the latest top-end Nikon lenses are quite expensive also, and comparable to Sony's. I personally don't rate many of the newest Nikon lenses, or at least think they offer poor value but that's for another topic. But, compared to Canon & Fuji, Sony lenses ( the GM series anyway ) are quite expensive. I just added up what it would cost me to purchase an A7RIII with all the lenses I would want / need and it came to just over £13,000. Ouch. I'd be selling my GFX system to fund that .... just not something I'm prepared to do.
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That's unfair to compare. The Canon L lenses have been out for ages and there new offerings are actually pricier or nearly on par with Sony lenses
 
jonneymendoza said:
That's unfair to compare. The Canon L lenses have been out for ages and there new offerings are actually pricier or nearly on par with Sony lenses
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Unfair or not, that's the bar the competition have set. Legacy goes a long way in the photography market ; some are existing on the fumes of that alone ie. Leica, Hasselblad.
 
xaldub said:
Unfair or not, that's the bar the competition have set. Legacy goes a long way in the photography market ; some are existing on the fumes of that alone ie. Leica, Hasselblad.
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Not anymore. The new kids on the block want shiny new things.

Its unfair to expect same price as a 10 year old L lens. Plus the fact that when those L lenses came out they was same price as the G master.

Watch and see what happens when canikon go mirrorless especially if they ditch current dslr mount. They will start at the beginning being way behind Sony
 
jonneymendoza said:
Same as pro support on canikon
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My clear point is that pro level doesn't apply to the majority of people, who will need to make do with bog standard (and widely criticised) Sony support.

xaldub said:
Yup, the latest top-end Nikon lenses are quite expensive also, and comparable to Sony's. I personally don't rate many of the newest Nikon lenses, or at least think they offer poor value but that's for another topic. But, compared to Canon & Fuji, Sony lenses ( the GM series anyway ) are quite expensive. I just added up what it would cost me to purchase an A7RIII with all the lenses I would want / need and it came to just over £13,000. Ouch. I'd be selling my GFX system to fund that .... just not something I'm prepared to do.
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Fuji lenses are crop sensor so not an apples to apples comparison, of course they are cheaper. Canon are cheaper maybe but certainly not as sharp for the most part.
 
Richdog said:
My clear point is that pro level doesn't apply to the majority of people, who will need to make do with bog standard (and widely criticised) Sony support.



Fuji lenses are crop sensor so not an apples to apples comparison, of course they are cheaper. Canon are cheaper maybe but certainly not as sharp for the most part.
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Bog standard canon ain't that great. You need pro support for the added benefit.

Nikon even worse. There cameras are rigged with issues. D850 is the first to launch well enough so far.
 
Holy crap.

Seriously guys, I am entering a new world of satisfying photography with this camera. I have never in my life had such amazing results in portraiture... the combination of a7rIII and 85mm f1.8 is absolutely phenomenal. Eyes are in focus and pin sharp, and the out of focus rendering is absolutely gorgeous. Even the 28mm f2 has very pleasing bokeh, and it is surely a must buy for every Sony owner.

I will post some samples when I process them after Christmas, until then please accept my apologies but I am just writing down my thoughts. Never have I been so gobsmacked by the visual quality (artisticness aside, I am talking pure aesthetics )of my photos.. :)
 
Richdog said:
Holy crap.

Seriously guys, I am entering a new world of satisfying photography with this camera. I have never in my life had such amazing results in portraiture... the combination of a7rIII and 85mm f1.8 is absolutely phenomenal. Eyes are in focus and pin sharp, and the out of focus rendering is absolutely gorgeous. Even the 28mm f2 has very pleasing bokeh, and it is surely a must buy for every Sony owner.

I will post some samples when I process them after Christmas, until then please accept my apologies but I am just writing down my thoughts. Never have I been so gobsmacked by the visual quality (artisticness aside, I am talking pure aesthetics )of my photos.. :)
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When did you get one?
 
Had a good read on Sony forums yesterday and this evening ... the A7R3 seems to be an excellent camera with positive feedback thus far, but I've read about significant issues surrounding quality control with lenses. Two of the three primes I'd plan to get ( 35mm f1.4 & 50mm f1.4 ) sound like it would be a lottery trying to get good copies. For the price of those lenses the quality control shouldn't be that lax. Perhaps I should just sit it out and wait for the other manufacturers to catch up with decent Eye AF ... it will happen eventually !
 
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Raymond Lin said:
So I see, did you get the Batis 85?
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No, its waste of money imo. I got the Sony 85mm 1.8 which is half the price of the Batis and within spitting distance of the Sony 1.4 GM at a third of the price. Beautiful rendering. Was voted lens of the year on multiple sites and a complete and utter bargain at 510 EUR! It and the 28mm f2 are imo essential starting lenses. Not sure what I will go for next now...

Video quality is also very nice but it's a new world to me so the complexities of the various settings and then editing will take me a while to learn like SLOG etc. The out of camera quality is pretty damn good though.

I also bought the Godox Tt685s flash and so far it seems pretty good. Today will be the ultimate test during the family portrait sessions and present unwrapping (we have to do Christmas a day late this year due to time spent with in laws). :)
 
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