The thought police come knocking...

[GGizmo]

Harassment is a crime, that was the complaint made to the police.

The investigation had been completed at the station. The result was no crime had taken place.

They didn't visit her house to tell her a crime had been committed.

She asked if she continued to do what she did what would the police do? They said nothing.

The police say they are, right there in the article, I even bolded it for you

I'm not sure what you're talking about. You've only posted once to the thread, this message, unless you have multiple accounts?

But even if they did say that it's not the law. The law is against the police doing this. They have ignored 2 court decisions and a change in the guidelines.

So harassment isn't a police matter now? Ok, who would you complain to if you were being harassed?

If you complain online about an elected official are you harassing them?

If there was harassment the police wouldn't be popping around for a cup of tea and a slice of cake. They would be trying to arrest the suspect.

If anyone calls for the resignation of a party affiliated politician more often than not someone will come at you. Now we know if we do we risk a police visit.

 

[jpaul]

still only had half the story the exact context and messages she said don't seem to have been publicized .... was this some kind of silo hate-in/oneupmanship.

if the 'grandmother' were now searching for another job there's an indelible trace left on the internet too - a no-fault claim, all publicity isn't good publicity

 

[arknor]

still only had half the story the exact context and messages she said don't seem to have been publicized .... was this some kind of silo hate-in/oneupmanship.

seems she was calling for a local mp to be sacked repeatedly.

people have the right to voice their opinions online, the guys probably terrified it would gain traction.

I bet if I walked around a local mps constituency where they don't even live 90% of the time, holding a sign saying all the bad things this person had voted for, bringing any potential corruption to light etc.

it'd probably count as harassment too.


Yet newspapers can repeatedly call for people to be sacked and its a non issue..... weird?


how was the lettuce not some king of weird stalking/harassment? you'd have to wonder if you would even be allowed to do such a thing as an individual.


I bet the real reason is money, you can easily make the poor shut up, the people who can't afford to waste money on legal fees and fight back (which is probably most the country whos on less than 40k a year)


Most Mps don;t like the truth, if you look at voting records etc you can find where they voted against peoples interest quite easily, they don't represent us, they represent the party

 

[Ocelot]

So, in this book, are they questioned for actions they have only thought about but never carried out/verbalised/written down etc i.e. remains in their brains as a thought only and no one else can know?

Yes.

'The thought police would get him just the same. He had committed – would have committed, even if he had never set pen to paper – the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it.'

'Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.'

There's also a line (can't find the quote) which says something like 'The Party found it inconceivable and unacceptable that even a thought against them could exist'.

In summary, the thought didn't have to be expressed to be a crime, it merely had to have been thought.

 

[Richie]

In summary, the thought didn't have to be expressed to be a crime, it merely had to have been thought.

So the circumstances in the OP posts is not Thought Crime then as they did express their thought

 

[Ocelot]

So the circumstances in the OP posts is not Thought Crime then as they did express their thought

Technically, yes, but in Airstrip One it would have still been a crime.

 

[GIBURROWS]

When it takes 3 separate phone calls and 3 hours to get the police to do something about intruders who broke into my building stories like this one make the police a punchline.

 

[arknor]

The police say they are, right there in the article, I even bolded it for you

even if they are why can't it be in writing? why do they need a police presence on your door step?

surely a letter is cheaper than an officer? whats event he point if its not a crime? and if they can't afford a letter, they can't afford to be wasting any resources on this at all

What does the person gain from knowing someone made a complaint that's not worth investigating or taking any action on?

it used to be called a waste of police time?

The whole thing seems to be about intimidation