The thread which sometimes talks about RDNA2

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The problem is the RTX3070 might only have 8GB of VRAM against the RX6800 16GB and is a bit slower,but its also $80 cheaper.

BTW,I have listed the relevant slides in the second post.

 

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Consumer still looks like they lose.

What does £400 get you?

Nothing ATM!!

Looking at the pricing,I suspect the RX6700XT will be over £400,and it will be the RX6700.

However,it does seem Nvidia will have the RTX3060TI and RTX3060 out by the end of next month.

 

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One thing got me interested

If You are not on PCIE4.0 wont performance get BIG HIT with amd's new design ??

Ampere has the same - both are using a version of MS Directstorage.

 

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Buying a 5900X and a 5900XT sounds like the best performance you can buy, which is incredible.

But in terms of options for consumer's, were still getting stuffed.

The problem is everything is getting faster but also noticeably more expensive too. OTH,it does make the consoles look really decent value. I suppose AMD wins either way!

 

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Directstorage is for SSDs and AMD list this as something different from Smart Access. It seems Smart Access is for faster RAM access across the memory subsystem.

I only skimmed stuff quickly whilst making the updates - I will have a proper read later on.

ye but not worked on nv YET and was used by AMD
@Troezar thats why NAVI looks even worse for Me on x470

Well I am on a B450 motherboards,so probably in the same boat as you.

Yeah, the PS5 and Xbox X are absolutely stellar for the price.

At current prices I'm buying nothing and sticking with my 3900X and 5700XT.

I have a Ryzen 5 2600 and a GTX1080. I will probably upgrade the CPU at some point,but the Zen3 prices have put me off so far - waiting to see if there is noise about the cheaper SKUs. GPUs,I think I will try and hold on for as long as I can.

 

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https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1321489315428519936?s=20

AMD tells me it's working on its own super sampling technology, similar to Nvidia's DLSS. It will be open and cross-platform, which could mean it'll come to Xbox Series X and PS5. DLSS is a game changer for Nvidia, so this could be big news.

 

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Just like ray tracing, AMD will have been working on this for some time. As captain obvious in the articles highlight, they will go the route of less resistance and work with others which is supported well... you know the opposite of nvidia's mantra

At least now they can both compete with each other equally in acronyms!!

 

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It appears you need smart access memory which is available on Ryzen 5000 series CPUs to get optimal performance.

 

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It's very possible that for gaming you won't need top notch ram.

It will be interesting to see how it pans out.

 

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That's not how I saw the numbers from AMD which included 4-13% uplift from the memory access.
I'll wait on some full reviews though obviously but some crude calcs and the 3080 looks to offer less perf/$. Typically I would expect to get more as you go down the stack to the mid-range.
Any of these will be a big improvement on my 1660 Super though.

A post on Guru3D suggested that the 6800 is the same die as the 6800XT but with aspects disabled. Is that confirmed and will they just be bios disabled or physically somehow?

The 6800 has 60CUs and the 6800XT has 72CUs. The 6900XT has 80CUs and uses the full Navi 21 chip.

 

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Interesting:
https://www.phoronix.com/forums/for...e-amd-radeon-rx-6000-series/page4#post1215694

Smart Access Technology works just fine on Linux. It is resizeable BAR support which Linux has supported for years (AMD actually added support for this), but which is relatively new on windows. You just need a platform with enough MMIO space. On older systems this is enabled via sbios options with names like ">4GB MMIO".

So it appears maybe the requirement for RDNA2 and Zen3 for Smart Access Memory maybe more a driver issue or Windows issue,than a hardware issue. In theory Zen2 should also work with it!

 

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AMD Raytracing visuals in action

https://twitter.com/x/status/1321819318615707649

This should be added to the OP
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I could add it - but isn't there a big warranty thread too??

 

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A Ryzen 5 3500X?? I thought SOTTR was a game which threaded reasonably well?? Buys a £600 GPU and can't afford a CPU?

 

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Is it me or does that CPU look awfully strong for a 3500X???

I think it is a fake result.

 

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Maybe they couldn't afford 3600 as they now £218 on OC's site

 

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Who's firing up the Official Owners threads for 6800, 6800XT and 6900XT?

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Can't wait to see the shake up in all the benchmark threads too

@Kaapstad handles that - I just try and do the review threads.

 

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Yeah Kaap said he's on it

Will be interesting to check the leaderboards in the bench threads once the dust settles. Let's see who can get the best out of their new toys

It will be.