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The thread which sometimes talks about RDNA2
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Seen the same message everywhere: AMD lied, supply is worse than Nvidia and reference cards are a limited edition short quantity run. If you didn't get a card, you have to buy an AIB aftermarket one and expect significant price increase over reference.
AMD pulled an Nvidia playbook move by setting its RRP too low, retailers are ****** because they make no money selling a reference card and customers will be ****** when they have to buy an AIB card thats 30% more expensive than AMD's claimed RRP.
You realise the PS5 has an AMD GPU right
Yes. Do I have a choice if i want to play sony exclusives? No.
How refund? Refund probably means they don't expect any future shipping?
I can't see how this is breaking any rules so I'll just quote the email here:
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Thank you for your order with Overclockers UK.
Unfortunately AMD only had a limited quantity of this product for sale and we will not receive any more stock.
Due to high levels of website traffic and thousands of people trying to order the product at the same time, we were unable to prevent the product from overselling.
We have shipped orders on a first come first served basis and regret to inform you that we do not have sufficient stock to complete your order.
We are working hard to process refunds as soon as possible. Please do not call or message us as this will only slow the process.
The good news is there will be a variety of new products available for sale from next Wednesday (25th).
We apologise for any inconvenince caused.
Its a shame since I just wanted as bare as possible as I'll only rip the cooler off and watercool it anyway (silence is most important to me)
Seen the same message everywhere: AMD lied, supply is worse than Nvidia and reference cards are a limited edition short quantity run. If you didn't get a card, you have to buy an AIB aftermarket one and expect significant price increase over reference.
AMD pulled an Nvidia playbook move by setting its RRP too low, retailers are ****** because they make no money selling a reference card and customers will be ****** when they have to buy an AIB card thats 30% more expensive than AMD's claimed RRP.
edit: oops double post
This means that there will be no reference cards anymore... Very weird.
What is going on? Ryzen 9 5900X is nowhere to be found, removed from the listings and now this?!
I am not going to settle with the much inferior Ryzen 7 5800X or Radeon RX 5700 XT.
AMD, get your act together!
The Nitro+ SE still has USB-C, at the expense of the 3rd DP.
Yep I'm not in a hurry and will probably skip this gen altogether tbh. Though it is good to see competition return at last!
techpowerup has a 6800 specific review. The XT will get all the headlines but the non-XT is a really tidy piece of kit.
You ask for one more example. You got more than one. I am not going contact every developer and find out every game that uses RT. I have better things to do than prove the obvious fact that nvidia out maneuvered AMD with RT. That the consoles like the PS5 will make RT mainstream.
This hurt AMD because they lack RT performance. DIRT 5's use of ray tracing appears to be applied to vehicle shadows, providing high detail contact shadows without a huge performance cost. Its a very limited use of RT. If we consider Control which is a RT game, then AMD performance is poor. The problem for AMD is that games like Control are the future.
Thanks, will take a look.
just to catch both your posts.
2 SKUS today because it was reference cards only, AIBs in one week.
Cost of the XT was £600 on AMD and the other competitor and £680 here.
Missed the 6800 prices but I imagine it was £540 and £600 respectively.
He would play at 1080p or 1440p.
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That's true, I mean games like WDL can be very heavy on the GPU because of RT effects, it's also true that games like FS2020 and Avengers at 4k Ultra are also unplayable, in fact Hardware Unboxed review did used FS2020 in their suite of games and it was unplayable at 33fps average on the 6800XT. And only slightly less unplayable with the 3080 at 40fps. It's additional 6Gb of vRAM simply isn't helping here, real memory usage of FS2020@4k ultra show about 9Gb being used at those settings. And there's no ray tracing in FS2020 to my knowledge. Obviously RT really add to this GPU burden and wont be used in every game so that'll be hit or miss but I still suspect many future games will make the GPUs give out before the vRAM. We definitely do need more games as evidence though to build a better case for this.
Optimizations on the console really help overcome that lack of raw power but that tends to come later in their development cycle once developers have learned all the tricks for the silicon. Some software optimizations for RT might cross over however, like culling certain objects from rendering in reflections. I'm hesitant to call that optimization though, it's more akin to just lower settings. Either way RT looks great, it's set to be the future and the consoles have embraced it which is cool, look forward to more of it.
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