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The thread which sometimes talks about RDNA2

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Alexrose1uk said:
Exactly, December IS end of the year, so that's the point, a month from now is 20th December.

If this materialises and we see increasing shipments over the next month into December and then into the new year; then it is not a paper launch, its simply a toilet paper launch where demand completely outstripped supply/expected demand.

Nvidia have had two months already and cards are still almost completely absent and sounds like actual supply and shipments are still not at all good. The waiting list threads tell you that much already.

AMD simply need to do better than that, and they'll have a good Christmas and essentially sell about everything they can ship.
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Err, that's not the way I'm interpreting it - end of December into January / February or even longer.
 
SnR3 said:
Wasn't it said weeks ago that AIB are to have much higher volume of stock compared to reference models? Since Ocuk had couple hundred MBA than I expect about 1-2k of AIB. Shall see how that will work out at 25th.
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The thing is I keep reading "25th (One or Two weeks)", what I suspect is AIB reference cards 25th and the good stuff that is leaking with custom board builds and top end cooling is at least another 2 weeks off.
Let's be honest if the 3080Ti drops AMD will unleash the 6900XT to AIB's as well if thats not already inline and happening.

Just realised boom there is that £1200 figure again, 6900XT £999 reference, AIB;s get it £11-1400, and people keep telling me they don't think Nvidia will sell the 3080Ti for £1200+ .....
 
Martini1991 said:
I can't see why AMD would continue to produce the 5700XT, and if they are, they're doing a terrible job of it looking at OCUK's stock.
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They made a statement because there was a rumour it was being discontinued.

Lack of stock could be due to the general scarcity of cards. I have seen people buying them to replace a sold card or as stop gap.
 
five8five said:
Err, that's not the way I'm interpreting it - end of December into January / February or even longer.
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Again depends on how you want to read it.
On face value "Availability will get better at end of the year" is pretty clear. Next month is end of the year. And then into next year just to me reads shipments are going to get bigger next month and keep coming.

6900XT is due beginning of December, so makes sense there will be a ramp up over the coming weeks and months. Like already said, the trick will be how availability pans out over coming next few weeks and months (and shipment size, as if demand is very high, then availability may remain low even if AMD are shipping 10x more cards than Nvidia); and where prices settle.

Nvidia have shipped **** all really since the launch several months ago, the queue and lack of movement shows that (and hence the rumours of Nvidia withholding chips so they can package them into revised cards), people have and still are literally waiting for cards ordered around launch day. AMD need to do everything they can to have shipped more in that same time frame, and given the performance and current demand, they'll likely sell out of everything they do ship, again even at 10x Nvidia's shipping rate.
 
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JediFragger said:
It's happened.
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Heard talk it might, it's been confirmed then? Wow... time to try and not buy something after the moneys burning a hole in my pocket for months already....

So the 6900XT AIB will have to be £11-1400, meaning no way the 3080Ti aint gonna be similar priced, and the circle of life completes. As predicted back to 2080Ti prices as nvidia planned all along.
 
I'd love A 6900XT for 800 quid, I'd buy two. And sell the other one for 200 above MSRP and get banned from the internet.
 
q974739 said:
You make reasonable points - that doesn't make them easy to swallow
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No it doesn't :(
Such is the world we live in right now. But competition and price warring will only help us long term once this forsaken year, COVID and the various backlogs it has caused have passed.

Previously AMD have had nothing that could challenge Nvidia quite so directly on absolute performance, at least without using pricing to do so, for quite some time.

As can be seen in the reviews, at 1080p and 1440p, RDNA 2 is actually faster in many cases than the current Ampere models, even if Ampere pulls away at 4K. That just simply was not true for the last few generations, albeit Vega 56 at its reduced later prices was of decent value relatively.

It's easy to forget, but the VAST majority of gamers, STILL game at 1080p. 1440p is going on to become the premium gamers resolution, whilst 4K is still niche, and will be for a few years yet, given panel pricing.
1440p 90+Hz refresh rates are just starting to become more majority affordable. These cards are great, and even potentially more performant, for many, MANY people, than the current Ampere lineup, because even the vast majority of gamers, even gamers who spend thousands on a rig, will have 1440P, simply because they can get a high refresh rate panel without spending silly money.

4k and 8k are great, but these cards are clearly built around majority resolution targets, and still do well at 4K. RT is still first generation PLUS level, and as the consoles are built with even less performance than this; the majority of games will target this, with some higher optional levels. DLSS alternatives are coming, but right now Rasterisation is still king, and these cards are still very good, as proven by the outliers where even the 6800, a £550 card, is beating Nvidia's 3090 at 1080p.

I don't doubt there will be 4K improvements in RDNA 3+, in the coming years as 4K becomes more relevant for more people, but right now people do need to remember that 4K PC gamers are a definitive niche, and the vast majority of 4k screens out there are 60Hz.
 
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DeathStorm said:
AMD doesn't get credit for something it hasn't done yet, the launch was bloody awful and they deserve ridicule for it.

If they do a decent job on AIB supply then it doesn't matter but I have zero reason to trust either Nvidia or AMD at the moment.
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Unfortunately there are some posters in this thread who will always see AMD as the "Good Guys". They're a billion dollar company designed to generate as much cash as possible, as quickly as possible in as many ways as possible. At end of the long chain, who gives them that cash?

The 5000 CPU price rises, particularly the 5600, and now selling their own reference cards exclusively, prior to the AIB launch, are just cash grabs. AMD, Nvidia and Intel are all cut from the same cloth.
 
five8five said:
Unfortunately there are some posters in this thread who will always see AMD as the "Good Guys". They're a billion dollar company designed to generate as much cash as possible, as quickly as possible in as many ways as possible. At end of the long chain, who gives them that cash?

The 5000 CPU price rises, particularly the 5600, and now selling their own reference cards exclusively, prior to the AIB launch, are just cash grabs. AMD, Nvidia and Intel are all cut from the same cloth.
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This is definately the case, AMD just have slightly less offensive corporate values overall, and make fewer dirty moves, when compared to Intel and Nvidia. They are much smaller than both of those, but they're still a big company that wants to make money.
 
Martini1991 said:
I can't see why AMD would continue to produce the 5700XT, and if they are, they're doing a terrible job of it looking at OCUK's stock.
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They did say that RDNA1 would continue to be part of the new line-up.

So it's likely we'll get a Rebrandeon launch of the lower end cards.

Maybe the 5700XT will just get straight-up renamed to the 6700XT :p I wouldn't be surprised by anything these days.
 
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FoxEye said:
They did say that RDNA1 would continue to be part of the new line-up.

So it's likely we'll get a Rebrandeon launch of the lower end cards.

Maybe the 5700XT will just get straight-up renamed to the 6700XT :p I wouldn't be surprised by anything these days.
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There's precedent.

But there's currently a massive performance gap in AMD's GPU offerings.
Then again, there's also precedent for AMD leaving massive performance gaps.
 
I for one am quite happy with this upgrade:

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Martini1991 said:
There's precedent.

But there's currently a massive performance gap in AMD's GPU offerings.
Then again, there's also precedent for AMD leaving massive performance gaps.
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Yep, would depend on if they produce smaller RDNA2. If so I suspect maybe we could see a 6700XT which is baby BigNavi (and still considerably faster due to RDNA2) so about half way between the 6800 and 5700XT, and then maybe RDNA1 5700XT becomes the 6600XT. It's still great performance for many people in the midrange and there'd be nothing wrong with it as a mid-tier card anytime soon.

@montymint

That is a very nice upgrade. Its almost 40% faster than the 2080 Max P I have in my laptop (which with overclock and tweaking is basically a 2080/2070Super)
 
NinjaCool said:
Godfall has been updated with AMD exclusive ray tracing support
https://www.overclock3d.net/news/so..._tracing_-_nvidia_support_will_arrive_later/1

"It is unclear why Godfall's ray tracing has been limited to Radeon products exclusively, though we do know that support for "Nvidia GPUs" will come with a future game update."
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I can see why AMD have done this, as Godfall looks incredible. I am sure there is some here who will lambast AMD for it though, as they have previously been vocal about NVidia and the way they keep everything closed
 
Alexrose1uk said:
That is a very nice generational upgrade. Its almost 40% faster than the 2080 Max P I have in my laptop (which with overclock and tweaking is basically a 2080/2070Super)
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I'm happy I'll be able to max out my somewhat slow UW on pretty much everything on ultra (and hopefully with a little RT in the future)
 
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