The thread which sometimes talks about RDNA2

[five8five]

Link to your source showing who makes how much on these cards?

The SUGGESTED retail price is exactly that, and the suggested price was single digit margin before we even took into account the cost to run the company and with how much work these launches create if they are not profitable it's pointless and as the saying goes the customer can shop elsewhere if they are unhappy with OcUK price. We could have listed the 6800 XT at £1499 and sold them all 10x over, but we made it fair and our margin was under 15% before taking into account operating cost which on a product that is extremely limited with huge demand and no supply we felt our price was fair.

 

[Vakas]

I'm just worried about the drivers and it's early days I think the cards will mature with time.

Right now I think it's just a case what you can get in stock AMD and Nvidia wise

 

[five8five]

Again depends on how you want to read it.
On face value "Availability will get better at end of the year" is pretty clear. Next month is end of the year. And then into next year just to me reads shipments are going to get bigger next month and keep coming.

I'm reading it as one complete sentence as spoken, end of the year into next.

 

[Martini1991]

Yep, would depend on if they produce smaller RDNA2. If so I suspect maybe we could see a 6700XT which is baby BigNavi (and still considerably faster due to RDNA2) so about half way between the 6800 and 5700XT, and then maybe RDNA1 5700XT becomes the 6600XT. It's still great performance for many people in the midrange and there'd be nothing wrong with it as a mid-tier card anytime soon.

@montymint

That is a very nice upgrade. Its almost 40% faster than the 2080 Max P I have in my laptop (which with overclock and tweaking is basically a 2080/2070Super)

The 5700XT is horrible inefficient compared to RDNA 2 though, it'd be a weird product to keep.

 

[Richdog]

The 5700XT is horrible inefficient compared to RDNA 2 though

What exactly do you mean by this? It's a 'horribly inefficient' card in general, or just when specifically compared to the high-end RDNA2?

 

[LtMatt]

The 5700XT is horrible inefficient compared to RDNA 2 though, it'd be a weird product to keep.

Performance is king, and the 5700 XT is not showing any sign of decline in the latest games.

 

[montymint]

I noticed how well the 6800XT does in Firestrike Ultra. Going to be good seeing the benchmark threads painted in red here. They have been green for too long!

for your perusal

Spoiler

 

[Martini1991]

What exactly do you mean by this? It's a 'horribly inefficient' card in general, or just when specifically compared to the high-end RDNA2?

Performance per watt compared to pretty much everything else.

 

[aoaaron]

Performance is king, and the 5700 XT is not showing any sign of decline in the latest games.

For 1440p gamers this is great.

I think most people buying these new GPUs are 4K gamers though.

 

[Martini1991]

Performance is king, and the 5700 XT is not showing any sign of decline in the latest games.

That's cherry picked lol.
Performance is king, but the 5700XT was meant to be a stop gap GPU until the real Navi cards launched, unfortunately I'm priced out of the market by both vendors.

The 5700XT is an okay card, it's always been an okay card. I didn't expect to have it 18 months later though.

 

[LtMatt]

That's cherry picked lol.
Performance is king, but the 5700XT was meant to be a stop gap GPU until the real Navi cards launched, unfortunately I'm priced out of the market by both vendors.

The 5700XT is an okay card, it's always been an okay card. I didn't expect to have it 18 months later though.

Well, if you look at the other new games Hardware unboxed tested, the 5700 XT performance is similar at 1440P. Horizon Zero Dawn, Dirt 5, Godfall, Death Stranding etc.

 

[Martini1991]

Well, if you look at the other new games Hardware unboxed tested, the 5700 XT performance is similar at 1440P. Horizon Zero Dawn, Dirt 5, Godfall, Death Stranding etc.

Like I say, there's nothing wrong with the performance of the 5700XT.
It'll serve me fine at 3440x1440, but it wasn't meant to be the GPU I keep.

 

[arc@css]

Like the 3070, the 6800 looks like a decent 4K card.

 

[humbug]

It does take a little time for a brand new architecture to mature, RDNA been around for a year + and we are seeing several games now where it absolutely kicks arse. I think AMD are on to a winner with this one.

 

[LtMatt]

Like I say, there's nothing wrong with the performance of the 5700XT.
It'll serve me fine at 3440x1440, but it wasn't meant to be the GPU I keep.

Treat your GPUs with respect, show them loyalty i say Martini!

 

[Nablaoperator]

Performance is king, and the 5700 XT is not showing any sign of decline in the latest games.

That game looks like an outlier. Theres something holding back the geforce in that game.

I just checked Doom Eternal 1440p benchies
RTX3090 352 fps
RTX3080 306 fps
RTX3070 229 fps
RTX 2080Ti 226 fps
RTX 2080 Super 185 fps
RTX 2080 179 fps
RX 5700 XT 160 fps
RTX 2070 Super 153 fps
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-review?page=2

Edit: newer benchies with big navi
RX 6800 260 fps
RX 6800 XT 296 fps
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-amd-radeon-rx-6800-and-6800-xt-review?page=2

 

[Shaz12]

Performance is king, and the 5700 XT is not showing any sign of decline in the latest games.

I woudn't use this game as a benchmark. Like almost all Ubisoft games its horribly optimised. Look at the 2080 Ti. Its only 6 fps faster than a 2080 when it should blow it away by 20 fps.

 

[LtMatt]

That game looks like an outlier. Theres something holding back the geforce in that game.

I just checked Doom Eternal 1440p benchies
RTX3090 352 fps
RTX3080 306 fps
RTX3070 229 fps
RTX 2080Ti 226 fps
RTX 2080 Super 185 fps
RTX 2080 179 fps
RX 5700 XT 160 fps
RTX 2070 Super 153 fps
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-review?page=2

160 FPS average. I think you missed the point.

That performance is still good.

EDIT, Doom is also not a new game, see my posts above.

 

[humbug]

I woudn't use this game as a benchmark. Like almost all Ubisoft games its horribly optimised. Look at the 2080 Ti. Its only 6 fps faster than a 2080 when it should blow it away by 20 fps.

When there are several other games now with different engines resulting in performance like that for RDNA when does this argument become defunct? are they all just "badly optimised" and that's why they run so well on RDNA? how does that work? how is bad optimization a good thing for RDNA? it doesn't even make any sense.

These are all game that have been released post RDNA, people are developing for RDNA now and with that its coming into its own, and its very fast.

New architecture, new hardware tech, new games...

 

[willhub]

How's AMD's ray tracing performance in Godfall?