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The thread which sometimes talks about RDNA2

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EastCoastHandle said:
This along with your other partisan Nvidia politics you posted in this thread is wholly inaccurate and usually off topic to the subject in which you've replied to. Which most of the time is used to campaign for nvidia.
Real time rendering of ray tracing goes all the way back to the late 1970s and guess what it was used on...a computer :eek:.

Ray Tracing has been around for the last 40 something years. It doesn't require a GPU and it's not particular for an API. All of whichyou will ignore for some random googled search topic in an attempt to continue your logical fallacies.

This is another prime example of your partisan posting for nvidia which is not actually true.

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Real time RT was not possible in 1979. Non-real time RT rendering is old. That video shows how limited super computers were in 1979's when rendering with simple shapes. That video was created an engineer at bell labs.

The idea of ray tracing comes from as early as the 16th century when it was described by Albrecht Dürer, who is credited for its invention.

RT real tracing is a completely different subject as you fully well know. That video is well known. Getting RT to run on home PC's in real time is not an easy tasks. It has only been prossible starting with the 20 series of cards from nvidia. Trying to state this is partisan that NVidia spent 10 years researching how to get RT to work on home PC's in RT is pure non sense. One would have to request you stop playing silly little games trying to smear me.
 
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diziet said:
Maybe just ignore it then. :p Do AMD fanboys brigade the NVidia threads?
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Ostracization is a form of bullying and haressment. Normal the last recourse of a bigot or wing nut. Everything I am stating is sourced, so part of a proper debate. If I dont agree with you I can still post my opinion. Thats my right under the rules. You are not a mod, so you don't have a right to censor discourse by any means. Including Ostracization. Witch hunts or anyother means. But trying to burn me out of the forums shows you in your true light.

The only thing you are working on is a forum holiday as all forums ban bullying and haressment.

Wing nut
1. Ideological extremist from either side of the political spectrum who unquestioningly repeats any and all propaganda and/or conspiracy theories propagated by their side of the political spectrum, no matter how unlikely.
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Phixsator said:
Solid advice, put the trolls on ignore. I wouldn't know, I rarely visit the Nvidia threads unless it's about some new feature they have cooked up.
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Ditto, I read them a lot but rarely post as honestly not being an NVidia owner I probably have nothing useful to contribute. Then again I rarely post at all. I read the forums for information but it's like finding a needle in a haystack at times. 339 pages and most of it is conversation that wouldn't be out of place in a playground.
 
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Problem is that these Nvidia trolls always come to try and downplay AMD products. Must have a sad lives I guess.
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One of the problems is that AMD has taken a lot of Mindshare in the market and creates a pretty large demand for their GPUs.

The other is that ther RX6000 series is actually on par with the 3080. And just like with the 5700xt when it was released it was slow. But in the next couple of months the drivers matured and improve performance. It's very likely in the next few months the 6800xt might be on par with a 3090.

And there is yet another problem nvidia has. AMD hasn't released the 6900xt which is the full 80cu part. What are the chances it will beat the 3090? Not only that, I still stand by the original rumor that they had a 96CU/90 something part. Be it they release it is another story.

Ergo, the problem...for nvidia.

diziet said:
Maybe just ignore it then. :p Do AMD fanboys brigade the NVidia threads?
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I've not seen any posts in the order of magnitude as what comes from the zx128k dup account user in the ampere thread. If so post those links because it's news to me.
 
This entire page contains zero useful posts. Especially the larger posts.

Who's opening this thread to see people trying to point score about ray tracing.
 
Very off topic, but this is actually quite entertaining to read. Crack on boys, reminds me of being back in school.

Now, what was\is the point of this thread? I'm lost.

@Space Monkey Not sure if any the off topic chat is breaking the gpu sub forum rules?
 
EastCoastHandle said:
One of the problems is that AMD has taken a lot of Mindshare in the market and creates a pretty large demand for their GPUs.

The other is that ther RX6000 series is actually on par with the 3080. And just like with the 5700xt when it was released it was slow. But in the next couple of months the drivers matured and improve performance. It's very likely in the next few months the 6800xt might be on par with a 3090.

And there is yet another problem nvidia has. AMD hasn't released the 6900xt which is the full 80cu part. What are the chances it will beat the 3090? Not only that, I still stand by the original rumor that they had a 96CU/90 something part. Be it they release it is another story.

Ergo, the problem...for nvidia.


I've not seen any posts in the order of magnitude as what comes from the zx128k dup account user in the ampere thread. If so post those links because it's news to me.
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The 6800xt is not on power with the 3080. The 3080 is faster overall. The 6800xt can be argued is faster by a few fps at 1440p over 18 games but once you add more games this appears to disappear. See my previous benchmark post. At 4k the 3080 is ahead in rasterization. The 3080 dominates in DXR benchmarks. The 6800xt is far slower in DXR.
This means overall the RTX 3080 is faster than the 6800xt. Below performance over 23 games.














Source https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6800-xt/30.html

Here Techpowerup shows that the 3080 is ahead at all resolutions. Once you increase the sample size of games all 6800xt leads disappear at all resolutions.

Conclusion "The RX 6800 XT is just 6% behind the RTX 3080" https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6800-xt/41.html

This is why SAM exists but only on Ryzen 5000 cpu's at the moment. SAM is a platform feature not a gpu one.
 
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TPU lost all their credibility over the Ryzen 5000 series review.

Also the 3080 has zero OC potential while 6800xt ref cards boost to 2.4GHz out of the box instead of 2.2 and can go happily up to 2.6-2.7GHz with power limit raised. So the 3080s tiny lead if any is about nullified.
It only has advantage in RT. Luckily I'm not interested in that as it adds very little to the games
 
I just realized something.
RDNA 2 thread surpassed the ampere thread by about 10 or so pages. (1200 pages at the time of this post).

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For MSI motherboard users, enabling SMART ACCESS MEMORY is quite simple. It only takes a few clicks after updating the BIOS. Go to "Settings > Advanced > PCI Subsystem Settings", enable "Re-size BAR" and "Above 4G memory/Crypto Currency mining", press "F10", to save the settings and reboot. The requirement of this feature is pairing the AMD Radeon RX 6000 series graphics card with AMD Ryzen 5000 series desktop processor. And don't forget to update the graphics card driver to the latest version as well. After these steps, this feature is online and ready to boost the gaming performance.

All the AMD 500 series motherboard from MSI is now ready for this new feature. Users can go to the corresponding support page of the product to download the latest BIOS for this breakthrough technology and enjoy that sweet performance boost.
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https://www.techpowerup.com/274872/msi-releases-resizable-bar-support-bios-updates


Very interesting that motherboard partners are taking the initiative to make sure that enabling SAM is more intuitive. Like I said in my prior post. It's not just a graphics card driver update that does this.
 
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Mtom said:
TPU lost all their credibility over the Ryzen 5000 series review.

Also the 3080 has zero OC potential while 6800xt ref cards boost to 2.4GHz out of the box instead of 2.2 and can go happily up to 2.6-2.7GHz with power limit raised. So the 3080s tiny lead if any is about nullified.
It only has advantage in RT. Luckily I'm not interested in that as it adds very little to the games
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You have to prove there is something wrong. It does not matter what happened and when it happened in the past. Each argument must be considered on its own merits. The only standard is if an argument meets burden of proof.

RT performance for example does not benefit much from overclocking. The rest is a good question, next week the AIO 6800xt's come out so this could change. No they cant reach 2.65GHz easy, most reviews hit 2.4-2.5GHz under load. The fastest air cooled 6800xt on HWBOT has a 2.65GHz boost but the clock speed is much lower under load because of the power limit. They also hit 90c+ at 2.4GHz. If we overclock the 6800xt you get 4% more performance.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_rx_6800_xt_review,33.html



Time Spy. 6800xt OC 18304 The card was stable with 2500 or 2600MHz dialled in, but actual frequency diminished slightly as I pushed passed 2400MHz. https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/dominic-moass/amd-rx-6800-xt-review/32/ 10900k 5.1GHz



Time Spy RTX 3080 factory OC 1935MHz 8700k 5GHz (The RTX 3080 hits a lot higher than this on a good card, with water reaching up to 2.2GHz) score 18306 https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/9...-3080-oc-edition/index.html#Test-System-Specs

 
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