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Got the following message just now from Sapphire when enquiring about availability in the UK:

Dear Sir :
We've double checked with our shipment part that RX6800 series will be very limited till rest of this year due to GPU shortage.

Customers need to wait unless there is a significant improvement in GPU supply.
Thanks.


If you have any further questions or download attachment, please click the URL to raise your additional requirements and questions and we will reply to you as soon as possible.

https://support.sapphiretech.com/ticket-record.asp?id=6496C1AA-EBE1-42E6-8012-D7303FAC643D

SAPPHIRE Technology Support Team

www.sapphiretech.com

Looks like its clearly an AMD issue.

Couldn't snip the actual email as this forum doesn't allow direct upload of pics.

Crap... i was hoping to get one in a few weeks.
 
You don't half amuse me sometimes

It seems you don't know the context behind that video existing... MLID previous video got disliked allot and comments section was insane, allot of people highlighting his arrogance and inability to admit he and his "sources" were wrong. The fact he also annoyed people in his own discord for the same reason, resulting in one of his own discord mods leaving that day (and another with foot halfway out the door). So he panic rushed out that video hours after with NaaF to try and address it (that's why it's Broken Silicon 76.5), which didn't turn out well as it got even more dislikes and people were just as frustrated as he still didn't just admit his error.

Was no EU AIB stock.. Microcenter confirmed on their own forums their US and Canada stores got zero stock, bot discords confirmed Newegg and Amazon in US also got no AIB stock... Then you've got other retailers in US saying they got triple the 3080FE+AIB stock than they did 6800 Ref+AIB if you combined the two, as they simply got no AIB stock. If that's not an AIB paper launch I don't know what is.

I also really didn't take NaaF in that video agreeing with him either, you could see the pain and cringe in his face whenever MLID kept trying to defend his position. Which is pretty much the same sentiment others had in comments also.

I really love some of MLIDs videos (especially his in depth interviews) and being in the leak game he's going to get things right and things wrong. He's doing himself no favours currently trying always to be right, then blaming the audience for "not understanding", especially when his own videos and the facts on the ground from retailers themselves don't support his claims. He should just admit it and move on, its not a big deal. His reluctance to admit his mistake is.
I really could care less about what people like or dislike about either of them. You take them so seriously I wonder if you understanding these are simply entertainers in the GPU space. Sometimes their speculations right sometime there speculation is wrong. However it's speculation.

If you are that bothered by "sources" you need a new hobby. With the use of some critical thinking and reasoning one would already know not to take either of them that serious. And, most importantly it doesn't refute nor come close to changing the perspective that just because a product wasn't available in your area does it make it a paper launch.

Not An Apple fan completely loses his lunch because there was none in his area. In the time stamps provided he back stepped on that comment. And later admitted in the other time stamp that it was not a paper launch. In particular when asked by Moore's Law is dead if he knew or had heard the numbers coming out of AMD.com he refused to comment on it. Moore's Law is dead corrected him and clarified that AMD was supplying cards on their website everyday.

It was at that point where I noticed that he would lie to justify how he feels. Which is why I'm no longer subscribe to him. If you want to entertain me being honest entertainer. I don't care how you feel.
 
They should have delayed the 'launch' until they had sufficient units ready for distribution, and been honest about it.

Yea..... even if you're lucky enough to find one the price gouging makes me sick, looks like my 2070S will be with me for a bit longer.
 
what are you saying now?

The final output image from a GPU is called the render. If you remove DLSS and post proccessing and output that as the final image. That to can become the render.

Rendering or image synthesis is the process of generating a photorealistic or non-photorealistic image from a 2D or 3D model by means of a computer program. The resulting image is referred to as the render.
Anything before the render is the rendering process. By stating the resulting image, they imply the final output of the rendering proccess. DLSS is part of the rendering process. Thus the render is the final output of DLSS, if there are no post processing or other unknown processes left. DLSS is not like an upscaler. It does increase the resolution but it also replaces TAA. The way it works is not like a simple upscaler, it requires information from the graphics engine in addition to the internal resolution rendered image.

To implement DLSS2, a game designer will need to use Nvidia’s library in place of their native TAA. This library requires as input: the lower resolution rendered frame, the motion vectors, the depth buffer, and the jitter for each frame. It feeds these into the deep learning algorithm and returns a higher resolution image.

We would not consider TAA as not part of the final rendered image, why would we then consider DLSS as different simply because it will upscale the resolution as well. In future all the graphics will be done by AI and the current methods will be redundant. DLSS is the start of the process.


Even so DLSS does a really good job of increasing the resolution and is in many ways better than the native.

 
Got the following message just now from Sapphire when enquiring about availability in the UK:

Dear Sir :
We've double checked with our shipment part that RX6800 series will be very limited till rest of this year due to GPU shortage.

Customers need to wait unless there is a significant improvement in GPU supply.
Thanks.


If you have any further questions or download attachment, please click the URL to raise your additional requirements and questions and we will reply to you as soon as possible.

https://support.sapphiretech.com/ticket-record.asp?id=6496C1AA-EBE1-42E6-8012-D7303FAC643D

SAPPHIRE Technology Support Team

www.sapphiretech.com

Looks like its clearly an AMD issue.

Couldn't snip the actual email as this forum doesn't allow direct upload of pics.

What exactly did you ask them? I feel as if some context is missing.
 
What exactly did you ask them? I feel as if some context is missing.

Context question i asked:
When are we likely to see stock of the 6800XT Nitro + in the UK. I really want one. Also buttered it up with "I have always liked Sapphire and want to stick to it" type of sentences.

I also tried asking Powercolor but no response as of yet sadly :(
 
Yea..... even if you're lucky enough to find one the price gouging makes me sick, looks like my 2070S will be with me for a bit longer.

I honestly don't know what AMD were thinking, this was only ever going to go one way, and it makes them look incompetent.
 
DLSS is not 'the future', its a temporary workaround to attempt to get acceptable performance at higher resolutions. We need gpus with about 4 times the performance of existing high end gpus, to run games at 8k resolution, which is about 4 times as many pixels. With mgpus already planned by nvidia, I think this could be achieved in between 3-4 years. In theory though, you can already achieve a similar level of quality (to a large 8k monitor) with a very small 4k monitor (14-15 inches), but we've all become so used to large tvs and monitors...
 
Context question i asked:
When are we likely to see stock of the 6800XT Nitro + in the UK. I really want one. Also buttered it up with "I have always liked Sapphire and want to stick to it" type of sentences.

I also tried asking Powercolor but no response as of yet sadly :(
They technically didn't answer your question. It is also a vague response but that is to be expected.
 
DLSS is not 'the future', its a temporary workaround to attempt to get acceptable performance at higher resolutions. We need gpus with about 4 times the performance of existing high end gpus, to run games at 8k resolution, which is about 4 times as many pixels. With mgpus already planned by nvidia, I think this could be achieved in between 3-4 years. In theory though, you can achieve a similar level of quality with a very small 4k monitor (14-15 inches), but weve all become so used to large tvs and monitors...

DLSS is the use of AI in games to get better performance. AMD and MS have gone for it as well with super resolution. Its is the future now, nvidia have won this battle.
 
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I honestly don't know what AMD were thinking, this was only ever going to go one way, and it makes them look incompetent.

Clearly AMD's priorities are with consoles, The Series X sold as many in the first week as the One X sold it the first 3 months, IMO Microsoft said "give me more APU's" AMD said "How many?" Microsoft said "everything you can make"

I have written off getting one before XMass but i want to see enough stock in February for everyone to get one and without having to pay a supply and demand premium.

AMD, don't make promises you can't keep.
 
I really could care less about what people like or dislike about either of them. You take them so seriously I wonder if you understanding these are simply entertainers in the GPU space. Sometimes their speculations right sometime there speculation is wrong. However it's speculation.

If you are that bothered by "sources" you need a new hobby. With the use of some critical thinking and reasoning one would already know not to take either of them that serious. And, most importantly it doesn't refute nor come close to changing the perspective that just because a product wasn't available in your area does it make it a paper launch.

Not An Apple fan completely loses his lunch because there was none in his area. In the time stamps provided he back stepped on that comment. And later admitted in the other time stamp that it was not a paper launch. In particular when asked by Moore's Law is dead if he knew or had heard the numbers coming out of AMD.com he refused to comment on it. Moore's Law is dead corrected him and clarified that AMD was supplying cards on their website everyday.

It was at that point where I noticed that he would lie to justify how he feels. Which is why I'm no longer subscribe to him. If you want to entertain me being honest entertainer. I don't care how you feel.

I'm not entirely sure you're using the word speculation correctly in relation to the AMD stock situation. MLID specifically highlights his "sources" as a way to significantly support his claims. Often saying he has observed evidence / information to convey the validity of that. By definition, not speculation. Especially in relation to his AMD stock info.

As I've said, they'll get it wrong, they'll get stuff right (said in last post). But when MLID goes all in (as said above) on his AMD supply information, citing several rock solid "sources" claiming he's seen distribution numbers.. Then come AIB launch occurs and retailers across the world directly contradict that with their own official statement... You end up looking like a tit.

Also I think you're struggling to read. This isn't an opinion I've formed on the stock availability of the AIB launch, major retailers across multiple countries in Europe, in US and Canada have released statements (as highlighted). Its a bit like you saying "I believe wine is made out of shoelaces", when it's not...

As for not caring? You trawled through a video highlighting multiple time stamps to try and prove a point :rolleyes:

A point by the way that you failed to prove.
 
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